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Harith

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Re: [S] 1578: The Battle of Alcácer Quibir
« Reply #120 on: February 05, 2012, 05:10:40 PM »
Well, it is said that the moroccan army was made of local volunteers mostly and tribesmen, while sebastian was sitting at asilah. the moroccan king sent him a message saying that he went trough 16 steps and that he wanted him to cross only one step to reach him. So sebastian went out of asilah to face Abu marwan who was on his own country and lands. so it does make perfectly sense for me that Saadi outnumbered Portugal because the first did probably prepared everything and made up an army, while the portuguese didn't.

well its a theory.... u know I wonder why the ottomans never tried to reconquest spain?? ottomans in spain??? they will have certainly more money and more fame...

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Re: [S] 1578: The Battle of Alcácer Quibir
« Reply #121 on: February 05, 2012, 05:16:33 PM »
Obviously the same reason that let them not conquer morocco too :P

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Re: [S] 1578: The Battle of Alcácer Quibir
« Reply #122 on: February 05, 2012, 06:17:11 PM »
Obviously the same reason that let them not conquer morocco too :P

what? please enlighten me

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Re: [S] 1578: The Battle of Alcácer Quibir
« Reply #123 on: February 05, 2012, 06:22:25 PM »
Well i was trying to be ironic.. doesn't work very well with me. i mean that i don't know why they didn't tried conquer both countries

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Re: [S] 1578: The Battle of Alcácer Quibir
« Reply #124 on: February 05, 2012, 06:38:41 PM »
Well i was trying to be ironic.. doesn't work very well with me. i mean that i don't know why they didn't tried conquer both countries

lol...k... well I'll look it up.... keep the good work though

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Re: [S] 1578: The Battle of Alcácer Quibir
« Reply #125 on: February 05, 2012, 10:39:56 PM »
During the XVIth century, there were rumors that Ottomans planed to reconquer Spain. During the Morisco revolt in 1568-15731, there were even Turkish soldiers helping the Arabs against the Christians. But it is said that instead of reconquering Spain, the Sultan finally prefered to attack Cyprus.

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Re: [S] 1578: The Battle of Alcácer Quibir
« Reply #127 on: February 06, 2012, 05:02:50 PM »
First link :Those looks like 15th century portuguese vs eastern arabs :P

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Re: [S] 1578: The Battle of Alcácer Quibir
« Reply #128 on: February 06, 2012, 07:43:36 PM »
I still can't find much references concerning the Portuguese army
most books dealing with Renaissance warfare concentrate more on the Spanish 
one really wonders whether the armies of both countries where similar
 
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Re: [S] 1578: The Battle of Alcácer Quibir
« Reply #129 on: February 06, 2012, 08:13:22 PM »
Well, that's pretty annoying because actually, i don't have any idea on how low-tier portuguese soldiers were dressed, what did they use to fight (altough i tend to think that they used polearms obviously). so i'm kind of lost if anyone here is willing to help by providing some infos about it :P

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Re: [S] 1578: The Battle of Alcácer Quibir
« Reply #130 on: February 06, 2012, 08:37:19 PM »
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Re: [S] 1578: The Battle of Alcácer Quibir
« Reply #131 on: February 06, 2012, 08:54:48 PM »
Those are beautifull pictures, MatMohair! Especcially the Osprey Spanish!

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Funcken! :D

I can't wait to see some screens of the Portugeses.

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« Reply #132 on: February 06, 2012, 09:14:42 PM »
Screens shouldn't happen soon, i still need to find good references, make the armors and stuff (wich should take a while), and make the troop trees, then you got your screens :mrgreen:

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Re: [S] 1578: The Battle of Alcácer Quibir
« Reply #133 on: February 07, 2012, 08:11:46 AM »
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Re: [S] 1578: The Battle of Alcácer Quibir
« Reply #134 on: February 07, 2012, 04:06:55 PM »
A picture of a moroccan "Khiyyal" (horseman) holding a lance and an adarga shield (thank's to al_mansur) i'd like to know what do you think about that texture