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Re: Quick Questions // Quick Answers
« Reply #3705 on: May 14, 2012, 12:08:10 PM »
Issue with archery:
My bow does 23 dmg, arrows do 3 damage. Archery skill is at 130 and I do less than 5 damage per headshot, is horse archery a viable option in PoP or should I stick with the more powerful infantry bows?

it's more viable with Noldor composite bow  :P

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« Reply #3706 on: May 14, 2012, 02:28:39 PM »
You'd also have to take into account your power draw skill and the power draw requirement of the bow. It's very important.
Also, I don't know if there are any bows with 'cut' damage type in Pendor but if there are you'd better make sure you're not using one.
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« Reply #3707 on: May 14, 2012, 04:25:40 PM »
Yeah the normal bows don't really cut it in PoP you'll be wanting a noldor, rune, or daja bow and 130 is really too low to do any good
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« Reply #3708 on: May 14, 2012, 04:40:49 PM »
You'd also have to take into account your power draw skill and the power draw requirement of the bow. It's very important.
Also, I don't know if there are any bows with 'cut' damage type in Pendor but if there are you'd better make sure you're not using one.

My power draw level is 4, sorry I forgot to mention that. I just find it odd that even after allocating that many skill points into something a headshot on someone not even wearing a helmet does 5 damage...Other weapons don't seem to have been nerfed like this at all, but I am admittedly only level 12 or so, so I'll keep at it.
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« Reply #3709 on: May 14, 2012, 04:44:22 PM »
Yeah the normal bows don't really cut it in PoP you'll be wanting a noldor, rune, or daja bow and 130 is really too low to do any good

I figured that was probably the case, but I just wanted to make sure that bows hadn't suddenly become nerfed to the point of being useless in this version of the mod before I kept putting points into power draw/horse archery.
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Re: Quick Questions // Quick Answers
« Reply #3710 on: May 14, 2012, 05:20:47 PM »
RE: routing

i have routing on (disable troop routing: OFF)  on, yet in about 600 days of game play (battle size 400), with me having plenty of one sided battles, i saw a grand total of 3 routers, is it really that rare?

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« Reply #3711 on: May 14, 2012, 06:02:25 PM »
Really? With 600 battle size I usually have like atleast 10% of the army as routers
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« Reply #3712 on: May 14, 2012, 06:13:57 PM »
Really? With 600 battle size I usually have like atleast 10% of the army as routers

yup! i'd think it's a bug if i didn't know any better and didn't have those few that tried to get away. when it's OFF it means they CAN rout, right? maybe it's worded differently?  :o

anyways, not a big deal, shame though since it deprives me of easy prisoners.


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Re: Quick Questions // Quick Answers
« Reply #3713 on: May 14, 2012, 06:26:16 PM »
Yeah the normal bows don't really cut it in PoP you'll be wanting a noldor, rune, or daja bow and 130 is really too low to do any good

I figured that was probably the case, but I just wanted to make sure that bows hadn't suddenly become nerfed to the point of being useless in this version of the mod before I kept putting points into power draw/horse archery.

You should be good to go with a Short Composite bow as well. Try using it dismounted and see what a head shot does when you are dismounted. More horse archery skill is likely needed for you to be effective from horseback (plus higher than 130 proficiency).


yup! i'd think it's a bug if i didn't know any better and didn't have those few that tried to get away. when it's OFF it means they CAN rout, right? maybe it's worded differently?  :o
anyways, not a big deal, shame though since it deprives me of easy prisoners.

The higher the level of the enemy troop, the harder for it to rout (high discipline). This is by design in order to make armies rout less (- they routed far too much with standard Warband code) and give the player a little bit more challenge, especially against signature heroes and faction lords.
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« Reply #3714 on: May 14, 2012, 07:49:10 PM »
I've been trying to search this around here to no vail. I just defeated an Snake Cult army but I didn't get the achievement to "pop up" nor did I get it's stat bonus. Which is weird because I defeated a Jatu Army 4 days ago (game time) and the achievement for that appeared and so did it's bonus stat (same playthrough, only thing I did was save the game between battles, just before fighting the snakes). Any thoughts, answers?

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« Reply #3715 on: May 14, 2012, 07:55:11 PM »
Did you initiate the fight against the army? If you join in on an existing battle and win it, it won't trigger the achievment as far as I know.

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« Reply #3716 on: May 14, 2012, 08:01:00 PM »
Did you initiate the fight against the army? If you join in on an existing battle and win it, it won't trigger the achievment as far as I know.
Yeah, the snakes were alone and I went to them. I got the achievement on the achievement page but, again, it just didnt pop up or gave the stat bonus.

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« Reply #3717 on: May 14, 2012, 08:13:25 PM »
Weird. That never happend to me. Maybe your Ironflesh Skill was already at 10, that's the cap.

Anyhow, since you already have the achievement on the respective page, I guess it's ok to export your char, edit the stat (just the one  :mrgreen: )and import again if you feel that
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« Reply #3718 on: May 14, 2012, 08:39:04 PM »
Weird. That never happend to me. Maybe your Ironflesh Skill was already at 10, that's the cap.

Anyhow, since you already have the achievement on the respective page, I guess it's ok to export your char, edit the stat (just the one  :mrgreen: )and import again if you feel that
Azi Dahaka betrayed you.

It wasn't at 10. Oh well, it's not a game breaker obviously :) just anoying not the get it proper. Just hope it doesn't happen again on some other achievements. I can live without an extra 2 hp (famous last words :D).

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Re: Quick Questions // Quick Answers
« Reply #3719 on: May 14, 2012, 08:43:18 PM »
Weird. That never happend to me. Maybe your Ironflesh Skill was already at 10, that's the cap.

Anyhow, since you already have the achievement on the respective page, I guess it's ok to export your char, edit the stat (just the one  :mrgreen: )and import again if you feel that
Azi Dahaka betrayed you.

It wasn't at 10. Oh well, it's not a game breaker obviously :) just anoying not the get it proper. Just hope it doesn't happen again on some other achievements. I can live without an extra 2 hp (famous last words :D).

hmm, did you previously get the cheater achievement? the way i understand then you still receive the pop ups but no actual perks come with any of the achievements.