Quick Questions // Quick Answers

[Mrshull]

I have a question for some reason when I am fighting the Noldor Heroes they have 100%hp but when i beat them i get no capture and no escape.
same thing hapend with shiek whats going on?

[robinhood1985]

I have a question for some reason when I am fighting the Noldor Heroes they have 100%hp but when i beat them i get no capture and no escape.
same thing hapend with shiek whats going on?

Agree. I have same thing with Sheik. Disappear with no message. No other lords join the battle. Only me and him 

[Treebeard]

Well it is not 100% chance that you capture an enemy leader.

This criterion needs to be fulfilled to capture the hero after a total victory:
random(0 to 99) + prisoner_management*5 >= 60

So if you have 5 in prisoner management and roll 30 then it would be:
30 + 25 >= 60 --> false --> defeated hero escaped

If you have 10 in prisoner management you still have 10% that the hero will escape.
The kind of hero doesn't matter.

[Mrshull]

like we said.. we get no message of escape or capture just nothing at all

[Celticpred]

Happened to me with Maltise and The Jatu leader. I just assumed I failed to capture them lol. Hopefully they will resurface with another army for the Mighty Commander Marshal of Ravenstern to crush 

[Celticpred]

Oh I was wondering. What happens if you capture every lord of a faction? I've captured half of the Empire lords and going around hunting for the others 

[Treebeard]

like we said.. we get no message of escape or capture just nothing at all

Not sure why it happens to Shalavan and the Elven heroes. They should be no different than any other hero troop in regards to escaping/being captured. Perhaps some obscure save game incompatibility if you switched version during the game play? I'll see if I can find out anything unusual in the code but so far it looks ok.

[Chriss39]

I was under the impression that you couldn't capture named spawns that belong to a faction  that you have a positive relationship with. At least I never get any escape/capture notifications for Shalavan or the Noldor lords when i'm above 0 relations. Maybe that is the issue, or perhaps i'm just making things up to rationalise a bug...

[Treebeard]

Good point ... If the relation with the hero's faction is greater or equal to 0 then no capture will be attempted.

Is this the case in celticpred's, mrshull's and robinhood's games?

[robinhood1985]

Good point ... If the relation with the hero's faction is greater or equal to 0 then no capture will be attempted.

Is this the case in celticpred's, mrshull's and robinhood's games?

No. I can still capture the heroes like Kodan, Boris even when they are fighting for factions that I have positive relation with. I remember it exactly because when they are in a friendly faction, I can avoid their king's army when fighting them.

[Treebeard]

In the code it explicitly states that if the player has 0 or greater relation with the faction of the troop then the troop will not be considered as capturable.

In the case of Kodan, his troop faction is fac_adventurers (i.e Adventurer Companies faction). So regardless of whom he serves, he will have that relation to your character (- because his troop faction is not changed when he joins a King as a mercenary).

[CrymsonChaos]

In the code it explicitly states that if the player has 0 or greater relation with the faction of the troop then the troop will not be considered as capturable.

In the case of Kodan, his troop faction is fac_adventurers (i.e Adventurer Companies faction). So regardless of whom he serves, he will have that relation to your character (- because his troop faction is not changed when he joins a King as a mercenary).

Ah.  So if you have positive relations with the faction he serves, you don't try to capture him.  That's why you always get the chance to get people like Maltise, because you have negative relations.  I see!

[Rojen]

No its if you have positive relations with the faction he belongs to "Adventurer Companies" or something along those lines

[Treebeard]

Basically there are two different types of faction belongings.

A party has a faction belonging (the whole army represented by the map icon) and then we have each troop's faction. For the heroes they all have their own faction belongings and this troop faction belonging is not necessarily the same as the party faction.

When checking for escape, the code fetches the faction of the troop (- not the faction of the party) and checks that faction's relation with the player faction.
Maltise has a troop faction belonging to snake_cult for example.

[DarkTemplar]

Quick question to dev team: how will recent diablo 3 launch influence progress on pop4?