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Oskatat:
though it can be debated that a dragon was not a sign of 'the' devil, since the more ancient meaning was power, strength, etc. Just as lions were not thought of as a 'noble' animal, but just as a strong one, which is why it adorns so many emblems


the only actual error that can not be described as personal believes is the "hearing" of an arrow. In a battle, fighting, with a helmet on, it is quite impossible to hear an arrow, even a badly fletched one (which makes more noise). Only signal arrows (screaming arrows) could perhaps be heard

Ezias:
I don't know about that hearing thing -- i think it might depend on how close the arrow is. gratned, I have never been in a battle so this is just conjecture. One hears teh whistle of bullets as they go by, and can feel/hear a ball or other objects as they fly by teh head.  Granted these all have varying velocities and shapes that would make teh physics very different from that of an arrow, but I don't know that it'd be impossible to hear one as it flies by your head.

Oskatat:
i did not want to imply that it is impossible to hear them fly by. i wanted to say that it was impossible or very unlikely that anyone would be able to turn their head in time

Kissaki:

--- Quote from: Ezias on December 13, 2006, 07:20:51 PM ---I don't know about that hearing thing -- i think it might depend on how close the arrow is. gratned, I have never been in a battle so this is just conjecture. One hears teh whistle of bullets as they go by, and can feel/hear a ball or other objects as they fly by teh head.  Granted these all have varying velocities and shapes that would make teh physics very different from that of an arrow, but I don't know that it'd be impossible to hear one as it flies by your head.

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But you don't hear a ball before it flies by. In the case of artillery you do hear the shells before they land -- unless the shell is coming directly at you (the shell travelling faster than the speed of sound, it will reach you before the sound does). In the case of arrows, obviously arrows are not supersonic and you  might well hear them before they hit you. I have no idea, however, as I've never been shot at with an arrow before. But I can't imagine that the sound would be loud enough to hear through both the battle and the helmet -- until it was too late to do anything about it, anyway. I believe you'd hear a projectile whizzing close by your head even with a solid, padded helmet covering your entire head, but I don't see how that matters in any way.

mercury00:
In fact you do.


--- Quote ---I found it much more disquieting to be shot at with archery than with bullets - you can see the arrows coming - they make unpleasant noises and you can see them when they pass close to you, as one did under the brim of my helmet.
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Observations on archery and it's effect on armour

In any case, I don't understand bashing the knight for hire, unless trying to make oneself feel superior and informed by mocking others is a good pasttime.

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