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Multiplayer Class description/guide as of version 1.143

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Mohamad-pastore:
That's Great Game Thank you :D

Ans99:

--- Quote from: Kerc on July 24, 2011, 04:51:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ans99 on July 17, 2011, 04:02:25 PM ---Polish infantry is a something like ... mistake. They are weakest in game. Any class. Chekan or pike agaist poleaxe, halberd or 2h sword ? You need to have a lot of luck to survive it. Anyway ... just go to any server and play the siege on the Polish side. Cannon fodder for enemy infantry.

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whaaat? sounds like the issue isn't the polish infantry but rather you.
the polish infantry is easily one of the most solid infantry classes in the game. learn to love that spear because it's magnificent since it got its overhead stab
(...)

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Even the description of the units no mention this ( "the polish infantry is easily one of the most solid infantry classes in the game. " )
Yes... solid infantry, best soldier, powerfull unit...but without weapons :) Pike against 2h sword  - i only wish you good luck. Or maby beter, simple example of wonderfull balance, chekan ( lenght : 70, speed : 90 ) against poleaxe ( lenght 120, speed: 85 ) and the winner is... of course soldier with chekan ;) ( joke )
Losers at the start.
So... faster I stop playing this game on mp ( becouse seriously annoy me this "balance" ), than I love spear ( but really I consider it a great weapon  - has it every nation in the game ).
Seriously, chekan is a secondary weapon for fight on libation with neighbor, not to use in regular battle. Pike in XVII century  is a little bit like relic of the past.

Edit:
I think now balanced gameplay looks for example this: Swedes vs Muscovites, or Cossacks vs Poles.
Skipping the fact that the latter pair has even a little problem with the destruction of the gate or door during sieges.

Zbyh:
Balance in MP was much better in 1.142, right now it is like:

Sweden
..
Khanate (but you need good horse archers in team to rule with this nation. If you also have open ground map, then Khanate archers are unstopable)
Poland
..
Muscovite
Cossacks

Polish nation is quite fine, their infantry just need proper 2h weapon.
Muscovite musketeer was nerfed in last patch, it's weak now comparing to others.
Cossacks musketeer (named in game as Infantry) is now ridiculously weak. They are smashed now in almost every Battle game by Poland or Sweden musketeers. Cossacks has similar accuracy as Muscovite musketeer, with higher damage. But Muscovite nation has Infantry as well. Cossacks don't have melee fighters at all, so without good musketeers (since 1.143 patch) this nation is just useless now. What's the point of having Miquelet Musket if, since last patch, you don't have accuracy to use it well ?

guy_incognito:
Sweden is still not fun to play *against* in multiplayer, NOR does it correspond to 17th century swedish army.  17th century swedish army was lightly armored or unarmored (in the case of infantry) and relied on modified pike and shot formations supported by cavalry.  They were NOT snipers supported by Swedish guardsmen with halberds and 16th century full plate zweihander footmen.   

Ans99:
Zbyh is right.
Cossacks require more attention.
Poles need a two-handed weapon (perhaps an axe?).

Bow (held by Khanate) has now become a more effective and deadly weapon than a rifle. With such a turnover of cases, you may find that on the battlefields will reign arches, completely displacing firearms.
I do not play Khanate, so I do not have suggestions.

Swedes shoot accurately from 200 meters without any problem. With accuracy of seventeenth-century firearms should be a little harder. In fact hit with such a distance in the target size of the house was practically impossible. Even today hit a man sized target from that distance is difficult (without optical tools).
It does not matter at this point. Important, however, that their accuracy is slightly exaggerated compared to other nations (not to mention bows).

Vayborg - this map must be improved, because now the fortress is not to conquer by the attackers. Mission impossible.

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