@Arzeal...please explain clearfy what exactly was so civilized in the mongols culture...0.
Like I said, They were just nomads. Surely strong but they were no more than that .... an Empire that lasted no more than 100 years...
Like I said..Romans or Moors....
Romans, the empire that lasted longer, and in some terms considered the most civilized during their existance,
Moors, I in first hand see the remnants of their civilization....
They were also damn strong.
"They were just nomads". As they said about Mongols.
"They were just Greek imposers PLUS we sacked Rome twice". As Gauls said about Roman.
"They were just some barbarians in the East" As Macedonians said before they conquered Persia.
You wanted me to quote on books and sources that will falsify your own belief, right?
I say "waste of times", as you always declared head on about what you believe in, no amount of factual evidence will change it, instead it will only reinforce it. Psychology 101.
Investigate on your own if you want more than a biased view on history, and when you are ready.
its seems they did lost in Vietnam but lets get back to question who was the stronger and most civilized
and my caliphate defeated the Mongolian army with planning not with numbers by a ready army and fine planning and tricking "War is A Trick" my friend
Aye, let's get back ... oh wait ...
I won't bother anymore, this thread is as hillarious as any Turk threads, instead I should go read other Turk threads more, since it's longer than this one, thus provide more entertainment