Just a Question Only Few Can Answer It

[laith]

well if you want to know mongols no one can say they were weak they were very strong nation strong
but before Genghis khan they were only small scattered tribes "nomads" only but with huge numbers
they invaded most of Asia and the eastern part of Europe and Iran Iraq Jordan Syria Lebanon Afghanistan Pakistan But when they reached Palestine They lost against the Mameluke Caliphat
In the battle of ayen Galoot even when they had  500,000,00 heavy  Infantrymen and Cavalrymen And that was the first lost in years and after 50 years they turned to Islam
and after there empire crumbled they repented               

[regiment77]

okay, a couple things.

when they fought the "mameluke caliphat" they were fighting agaisnt slaves who had previously worked alongside the mongols, and had an insight in they're tactics, although still not an excuse for the loss =/

Also, the mongols had pretty much every religion they encountered in their empire at some point or another. Every religion was accepted, they didn't "repent" they amalgamated themselves into the societies they were living in.

[Fooshie]

well if you want to know mongols no one can say they were weak they were very strong nation strong
but before Genghis khan they were only small scattered tribes "nomads" only but with huge numbers
they invaded most of Asia and the eastern part of Europe and Iran Iraq Jordan Syria Lebanon Afghanistan Pakistan But when they reached Palestine They lost against the Mameluke Caliphat
In the battle of ayen Galoot even when they had  500,000,00 heavy  Infantrymen and Cavalrymen And that was the first lost in years and after 50 years they turned to Islam
and after there empire crumbled they repented             

Yeah about that, at no point during history was there a 50,000,000 man army. At no point in history could a nation even arm and supply 50 million men. And their empire was still a long way from crumbling.

Oh and Mongolia itself never had a huge number of people.

I'm going to take a wild guess and say he's nomad.

[George A. Custer]

this question i quite relative.

[laith]

sorry an4sh i meant 5 million its seems i put a plus 0 but they didn't act a loon the crusaders helped to retake Jerusalem

[LordOfShadows]

This is beyond ridiculous.

If you have an opinion on which historical political entity was "da bom!!!!!!" state it, and be prepared to defend it.

BTW, in your earlier post about it being the arabs you mentioned Saladin: just want to tell you Salah Ad-din Yusuf Ibn Ayyub was a kurd. Further, you are doing what is a very common and incredibly stupid mistake, you are tying to apply modern framework/definitions/ways of thought/whatever to a different time.

So is it the Arabs in your opinion? If so, which state?

[Arzeal]

well if you want to know mongols no one can say they were weak they were very strong nation strong
but before Genghis khan they were only small scattered tribes "nomads" only but with huge numbers
they invaded most of Asia and the eastern part of Europe and Iran Iraq Jordan Syria Lebanon Afghanistan Pakistan But when they reached Palestine They lost against the Mameluke Caliphat
In the battle of ayen Galoot even when they had  500,000,00 heavy  Infantrymen and Cavalrymen And that was the first lost in years and after 50 years they turned to Islam
and after there empire crumbled they repented             

Funny, your Caliphat defeated Mongols ONCE with their forces about 20,000 men, a garrision forces left by Hulagu Khan and you already are ignorance this much, plus they never come back to you guys 

How should us Vietnamese brag when we defeated them 3 times over and over, with their chief khanate on our ass for 31 years ? I don't want to imagine 

They also being defeated left and right in VIETNAM, 3 times in total
"empire cumbled they repented"
Ignorance is bliss, 

[laith]

its seems they did lost in Vietnam but lets get back to question who was the stronger and most civilized
in middle ages arabs or mongols   and my caliphate defeated the Mongolian army with planning
not with numbers by a ready army and fine planning and tricking "War is A Trick" my friend   

[LordOfShadows]

its seems they did lost in Vietnam but lets get back to question who was the stronger and most civilized
in middle ages arabs or mongols

Define "stronger" and "most civilized".

[Winterz]

@Arzeal...please explain clearfy what exactly was so civilized in the mongols culture...0.

Like I said, They were just nomads. Surely strong but they were no more than that .... an Empire that lasted no more than 100 years...

Like I said..Romans or Moors....

Romans, the empire that lasted longer, and in some terms considered the most civilized during their existance,

Moors, I in first hand see the remnants of their civilization....
They were also damn strong.

[laith]

winterz i do agree with you but just a question why did you said the Romans they are so strong but yet so weak think about it they conquered more than 96% of Europe northern Africa And parts of Asia
to much i know but just tell what have they  invented the only civilization invented stuff and had most advanced technology in that time was the Greek  civilization  the Romans were "War Makers" But the winner makes the history and the pop has ordered of the execution of every inventor i believe
the maker of telescope was executed because he invented it  the only thing i'm asking name to me the what the romans invented         

[Arzeal]

@Arzeal...please explain clearfy what exactly was so civilized in the mongols culture...0.

Like I said, They were just nomads. Surely strong but they were no more than that .... an Empire that lasted no more than 100 years...

Like I said..Romans or Moors....

Romans, the empire that lasted longer, and in some terms considered the most civilized during their existance,

Moors, I in first hand see the remnants of their civilization....
They were also damn strong.

"They were just nomads". As they said about Mongols.
"They were just Greek imposers PLUS we sacked Rome twice". As Gauls said about Roman.
"They were just some barbarians in the East" As Macedonians said before they conquered Persia.

You wanted me to quote on books and sources that will falsify your own belief, right?
I say "waste of times", as you always declared head on about what you believe in, no amount of factual evidence will change it, instead it will only reinforce it. Psychology 101.
Investigate on your own if you want more than a biased view on history, and when you are ready.

its seems they did lost in Vietnam but lets get back to question who was the stronger and most civilized
and my caliphate defeated the Mongolian army with planning not with numbers by a ready army and fine planning and tricking "War is A Trick" my friend   

Aye,  let's get back ... oh wait ... 
I won't bother anymore, this thread is as hillarious as any Turk threads, instead I should go read other Turk threads more, since it's longer than this one, thus provide more entertainment 

[Devercia]

Its like watching Fox news...

[laith]

it seems the answer is every civilization

[Austupaio]

Its like watching Fox news...

Best post so far. Also, the most accurate.