Greek and turkish relations.

[Διγενής Ακρίτας]

Clearly he intends to insult the Greek superiority!

never sayd anything about superiority

[diavel]

Who cares that your great-great-great-great-grandfathers' sisters' husbands' nephew had his donkey stolen by someone elses' great-great-great-great-grandfathers' uncle. The perpetrator is long dead, the victim is long dead and the donkey is long dead. Get the **** over it.

The donkey is dead?

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[AWdeV]

Yeah, it got sick from all the idiots claiming "we did this and this and this" when it's about things from before they were even sperm and killed itself.

It's now a decent ashtray.

[ancalimon]

I mean yeah the ancient Greeks were way ahead of other civilisations in the mediterrnean but that doesn't mean that even the small ones or every other one aren't of equal importance.

Ancient Greeks more important by default? They invented a whole bunch of things and still influence our society today - having invented philosophy, drama etc. How can you compare a small and inconsequential civilization, let's say the Pannonians, to the Ancient Greeks?

Actually Ancient Greeks learned what philosophy is after barbarians (and their philosophical leaders who were shamans) thought them about it. The head of the Alxeandria Theogists wrote about it.

They were not great philosophers themselves burning the most important library ever in the history of Earth on their campaign to rewrite history ,world hegemony.

Drama is of course another barbarian invention thought to both East and West by these barbarians.

[theAthenian]

I mean yeah the ancient Greeks were way ahead of other civilisations in the mediterrnean but that doesn't mean that even the small ones or every other one aren't of equal importance.

Ancient Greeks more important by default? They invented a whole bunch of things and still influence our society today - having invented philosophy, drama etc. How can you compare a small and inconsequential civilization, let's say the Pannonians, to the Ancient Greeks?

Actually Ancient Greeks learned what philosophy is after barbarians (and their philosophical leaders who were shamans) thought them about it. The head of the Alxeandria Theogists wrote about it.

They were not great philosophers themselves burning the most important library ever in the history of Earth on their campaign to rewrite history ,world hegemony.

Oops, you dropped your tinfoil hat. Gotta watch out or they might get you without it.

[Διγενής Ακρίτας]

I mean yeah the ancient Greeks were way ahead of other civilisations in the mediterrnean but that doesn't mean that even the small ones or every other one aren't of equal importance.

Ancient Greeks more important by default? They invented a whole bunch of things and still influence our society today - having invented philosophy, drama etc. How can you compare a small and inconsequential civilization, let's say the Pannonians, to the Ancient Greeks?

Actually Ancient Greeks learned what philosophy is after barbarians (and their philosophical leaders who were shamans) thought them about it. The head of the Alxeandria Theogists wrote about it.

They were not great philosophers themselves burning the most important library ever in the history of Earth on their campaign to rewrite history ,world hegemony.

Drama is of course another barbarian invention thought to both East and West by these barbarians.

dude are you mentally retarded?

[ancalimon]

I mean yeah the ancient Greeks were way ahead of other civilisations in the mediterrnean but that doesn't mean that even the small ones or every other one aren't of equal importance.

Ancient Greeks more important by default? They invented a whole bunch of things and still influence our society today - having invented philosophy, drama etc. How can you compare a small and inconsequential civilization, let's say the Pannonians, to the Ancient Greeks?

Actually Ancient Greeks learned what philosophy is after barbarians (and their philosophical leaders who were shamans) thought them about it. The head of the Alxeandria Theogists wrote about it.

They were not great philosophers themselves burning the most important library ever in the history of Earth on their campaign to rewrite history ,world hegemony.

Drama is of course another barbarian invention thought to both East and West by these barbarians.

dude are you mentally retarded?

No I read old records that are more unbiased about those times.

There's also Herodotus who talks about barbarians teaching the first Greeks how to build walls and making Greeks advanced by joining them. So yes I mean what I say.  Barbaric Turks were the source of civilization as we know it today. It's just that I'm one of the first among Turks who likes boasting about it.

[Wellenbrecher]

yes we are great warrios from ancient times till today we had 300000 rifiles to fight italians and germans and we did and we also defeated italy and germany won beacause of the treason of bulgarians against an already (and from the start) greek front without supplies and manpower and modern weapons(of the time) while other countries with huge armies and lots of allied troops inside them like France  or the netherlands felt without much resistance .

and how can you say that cyprus is an old story? its only 40 years ago...and stop insulting countries that you know nothing about them.None cares about yours,dont speak about mine or Turkey without at least thinking what you are going to say

No you did not. Period.

You weren't even born then. Or even planned.
Stop hiding behind what someone else did decades, centuries or even thousands of years ago and face the boring reality of your own ******** existence and achievements like the sane rest of us does.

And yes, just for this stupid shite you, you the person, absolutely deserve to be called a bitch. A bloody moron even. Just **** off to whatever shithole you came from.

Just how much this ******** "we did this and we won this" shit pisses me off I can't even put into words...

[Διγενής Ακρίτας]

yes we are great warrios from ancient times till today we had 300000 rifiles to fight italians and germans and we did and we also defeated italy and germany won beacause of the treason of bulgarians against an already (and from the start) greek front without supplies and manpower and modern weapons(of the time) while other countries with huge armies and lots of allied troops inside them like France  or the netherlands felt without much resistance .

and how can you say that cyprus is an old story? its only 40 years ago...and stop insulting countries that you know nothing about them.None cares about yours,dont speak about mine or Turkey without at least thinking what you are going to say

No you did not. Period.

You weren't even born then. Or even planned.
Stop hiding behind what someone else did decades, centuries or even thousands of years ago and face the boring reality of your own ******** existence and achievements like the sane rest of us does.

And yes, just for this stupid shite you, you the person, absolutely deserve to be called a bitch. A bloody moron even. Just **** off to whatever shithole you came from.

Just how much this ******** "we did this and we won this" shit pisses me off I can't even put into words...

apologize please 

[Wellenbrecher]

For what? You being a delusional coward?

[Ule]

Actually Ancient Greeks learned what philosophy is after barbarians (and their philosophical leaders who were shamans) thought them about it. The head of the Alxeandria Theogists wrote about it.

They were not great philosophers themselves burning the most important library ever in the history of Earth on their campaign to rewrite history ,world hegemony.

Drama is of course another barbarian invention thought to both East and West by these barbarians.

and who were these "barbarians"? which tribe of people called themselves the "barbarians"? which of the 200+ tribes north/east of ancient greece refered to themselves as the "barbarians"?

yousa a crazy **** face! take your crazy to your crazy thread where its contained by comman sense and not nationalistic prancing like we see in this thread.

and just for fun, turkey and greece you both suck

[ancalimon]

Actually Ancient Greeks learned what philosophy is after barbarians (and their philosophical leaders who were shamans) thought them about it. The head of the Alxeandria Theogists wrote about it.

They were not great philosophers themselves burning the most important library ever in the history of Earth on their campaign to rewrite history ,world hegemony.

Drama is of course another barbarian invention thought to both East and West by these barbarians.

and who were these "barbarians"? which tribe of people called themselves the "barbarians"? which of the 200+ tribes north/east of ancient greece refered to themselves as the "barbarians"?

yousa a crazy **** face! take your crazy to your crazy thread where its contained by comman sense and not nationalistic prancing like we see in this thread.

and just for fun, turkey and greece you both suck

The only barbarians I'm talking about are those who are either "out of place", or those who "used a language that is undecipherable, extinct or something like that".  And:
1 -) No one called themselves barbarians.
2 -) Barbarians were refered to as speaking "the" barbaric language. Not speaking "a" barbaric language.
3 -) There were two kinds of people in the past.  Barbarians & savages.  Most sedentary people were savages whereas most people who were on the move were called barbarians.

[Papa Lazarou]

Actually Ancient Greeks learned what philosophy is after barbarians (and their philosophical leaders who were shamans) thought them about it.

Who taught the barbarians?

Clearly some thing are just spontaneous results of human psychology and biology, and don't have to be brought in from outside. Language for example.

[ancalimon]

Actually Ancient Greeks learned what philosophy is after barbarians (and their philosophical leaders who were shamans) thought them about it.

Who taught the barbarians?

Clearly some thing are just spontaneous results of human psychology and biology, and don't have to be brought in from outside. Language for example.

We don't know that because there aren't any records about those things. Most of the secrets of the world were destroyed when Greeks burned the cultural and scientific center of the world. (not today's Greeks of course..)

[Papa Lazarou]

My question is: who taught the teachers?

Sooner or later someone had to make it up themselves. If you look at what philosophy and theatre are (people reasoning about questions and people pretending to be other people for fun), I don't think it's that much of a stretch to say humans just made that stuff up on their own.

I mean if you think philosophy had to be taught to humans, you basically have to say that humans are not naturally able to ask questions or apply logic. Given that non-human animals can seek new knowledge, use basic maths and understand chains of events, I really don't think humans needed help to create philosophy.