Reverend L. Lamb
You might not want to, but I'm pretty damn sure a patriotic little hoplite does

@AWdeV
Really? Why not? They were. Hateful little slavers.
Different times called for different measures.
Hateful? Perhaps. Back then such mentality was present everywhere, seems it still is today in some places

after all, it did teach Οπλίτης Νικίαc to behave this way.
Why? What's the point? Why be proud or ashamed of something you are not in the least bit responsible for? At best, you're its product. Make it be proud of you, not the other way round.
I discussed this with another person quite recently actually, apparently a lot of people are debating the definition of pride these days. Why can't I be proud...say, of my brother's accomplishments? That feeling I get when I'm "proud" of someone seems the same, even greater than when I'm proud of something I've accomplished. After all, being proud is definitely more applied to accomplishments of other persons, rather than you?
Say that we can't say we are proud of someone else, how do you call that feeling when we're >insert here< of someone else
