Polish Republic Unit and Nation Guide

[Maxim Suvorov]

Winged Hussars have a short weapon when fighting on foot.... I have seen and felt it. but for some reason I don't see it in their file. Not sure why!

They have sabers. (It is done by script codding).

[robichet]

I read this guide and the swedish one, i'll read the crimean one tomorrow.
It's great, and very useful, u made me want to play with polish
Thanks for this nice work.

[Wheem]

Winged Hussars have a short weapon when fighting on foot.... I have seen and felt it. but for some reason I don't see it in their file. Not sure why!

They have sabers. (It is done by script codding).

So it's different from simply having the saber in their available equipment list, then? (and out of curiosity, is the same thing done for pikemen in sieges?) Also, does this mean that their sabers won't be lootable after a battle?

One other thing I've noticed, though I'm not sure if it's due to the way their sabers are implemented or not, is that Winged Hussars will occasionally use their fists for a brief period when they first get dismounted, before drawing their sabers (and if memory serves, this could happen on occasion in Warband as well).

Back to the original topic - I've mostly been limited to field battles so far, but I find the Polish troops to be fairly solid overall, and that's with only having 3 or 4 Winged Hussars at any given time (can't find them for recruitment in any of our settlements, so the only ones I've been able to get are liberated prisoners ).

My biggest problem with the Poles seems to be getting and keeping enough pikemen to protect my musketmen. The German and Scottish Pikemen are good units, but the standard ones don't have any "real" armor - unlike some of their counterparts from other factions. To make up for this, I've found it best to hire Zolniers instead of the regular pikemen, and hiring the Mercenary Pikemen from taverns to fill in the gap in melee infantry (though it can occasionally be problematic finding them). I think my biggest problem with pikemen, though, is just not having enough numbers - with my army size, there's not much room left after my marksmen/cavalry/dragoons are accounted for

[lotsofpaper]

What happens with hussars is this...

all hussars have a selection of the items listed in their items list... But they also are scripted to absolutely positively HAVE a melee weapon (in this case a saber) given to them when other weapons become inefective. They will never draw a saber while on a horse, so I think the saber magically appears in their hands when they become dismounted.

This stops them from using the saber instead of the more powerful lance when they're mounted.

[mureika]

Well there's one unit mising... Well they aren't recrutable... The only way to get them is as rescued prisoners. Some lords and cities have them... More about them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisowczycy

[Ans99]

Winged Hussars have a short weapon when fighting on foot....

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Besides them, pikemen ( as well as other units fighting with Polearms ) also use the other weapons during the sieges.

[Dengero]

bumping this because the thread is so good.

[TrendKill01]

Thanks! I'm a Swedish user myself, but I was thinking about trying the Polish for once. This really gave me an understanding of their units, so this will also help me in a battle against them.

[Lithuanian army]

Cool but i would ike to know how to hire em.Like that Lithuanian fighters,how to get em?

[mureika]

Cool but i would ike to know how to hire em.Like that Lithuanian fighters,how to get em?

Become a lord of Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth. Then go to a specific town( not every city has them) And recruit them from commander.

[Cerlin]

Glad to see this is still alive and valued....I may have to finish what I started then (Digs up his old saves.)

[JosieJ]

Glad to see this is still alive and valued....I may have to finish what I started then (Digs up his old saves.)

Any plans to do the other factions' units?  Cossacks especially?   

[zepprith]

Hear are some basic stats so you have a idea of what some of the units are like.
Any stats not mentioned are 0

Dragoon  LvL 8

hitpoints     50
STR   13
AGI   11
INT     1
CHA    4
One-handed  105
Two-Handed    85
Pole-arm          95
Firearm           110
Ironflesh       1
Weapon master    3
Shield      3
Riding      3
Shooting from horseback    4
Inventory management   2
Prisoner management   1
Leadership    1
Trade     1

Winged Hussar          LvL  21
Hitpoints    60
STR   17
AGI   17
INT     2
CHA    5
One-handed   175
Two-handed   155
Pole-arm         165
Ironflesh           4
Powerstrike      2
Weapon master   5
Riding      7
Inventory management   2
Prisoner management   1
Leadership    2
Trade    1

Also winged hussars get their wings when they become veterans at least on my game they do.

[h-edition]

Hussars have a riding skill of 7???

Wow are they the fastest unit in the game?

[vgthygsdcfd]

is their ability to be a free garrison, but then I would rather level him up and get a militia pikeman.