Kitten's Badly Organized Outdoor Brawl (K-BOOB)

[ryizzel]

We'll have none of your european ways in our american tournament!

[Kitten-mew!]

What's the EU spawn-swapping method? If it could improve the fairness of this tournament, I'd be glad to see it! To be honest, though, Ruined Fort, Port Assault, and Village are already iffy maps for battles. Or at least, that's how I feel.

[insertirlcompensatingnamehere]

What's the EU spawn-swapping method? If it could improve the fairness of this tournament, I'd be glad to see it! To be honest, though, Ruined Fort, Port Assault, and Village are already iffy maps for battles. Or at least, that's how I feel.

I think, that after the maps/factions are chosen at the end of the set the map is played again with teams in the other faction they didn't first play.

Example:
1st set (7 rounds)
 Map - Nord Town     Team 1 - Nords      Team 2 - Vaegirs

2nd set
Map - Nord Town      Team 2 - Nords       Team 1 - Vaegirs

[Kitten-mew!]

The main problem I can see with this is that without predetermined match-ups, I can see pretty much nobody picking any faction but Nords, Vaegirs, and occasionally Rhodocks. Mostly because those two (three?) factions are the most popular and can quickly adapt to any spawn, whereas Swadia has trouble against all three of them, Sarranids seems to counterpick Swadia and have a good chance against Vaegirs but lose horribly to Nords, and Khergits are up for banning (taking a leaf out of the NC's book!).

[MrNomNom]

Can we have a rule where a team can't choose the same faction twice in a row?

[Kitten-mew!]

Sure. Rules will be updated along with free agency and stuff tomorrow.

[insertirlcompensatingnamehere]

Can we have a rule where a team can't choose the same faction twice in a row?

OR forbid the use of the same factions between sets. Like if Vaegirs and Nords are used in the first map, you should pick other factions that aren't those two.  That'll add a bit of variation to the match ups and encourage teams to get good at other factions that aren't nords or vaegirs.

[Captain Lust]

What's the EU spawn-swapping method? If it could improve the fairness of this tournament, I'd be glad to see it! To be honest, though, Ruined Fort, Port Assault, and Village are already iffy maps for battles. Or at least, that's how I feel.

In EU most maps will be played both ways, like this:

Port Assault: Team 1 Vaegirs - Sarranids Team 2 (best of 5)

Port Assault: Team 2 Vaegirs - Sarranids Team 1 (best of 5)

This counters any spawn/faction advantage because both teams play each way.

[Kitten-mew!]

Hmm... I'll have to think it over. Thankfully. I have around three weeks to mull it over but you're starting to win me over. It's not like first-to-seven is set in stone. I do also like the idea of not repeating -any- factions to add some variety. Great ideas, folks, I'll be adding and modifying some rules tomorrow! Feel free to keep scanning the rules and suggestion improvements, I like helping. ^^

[insertirlcompensatingnamehere]

Hmm... I'll have to think it over. Thankfully. I have around three weeks to mull it over but you're starting to win me over. It's not like first-to-seven is set in stone. I do also like the idea of not repeating -any- factions to add some variety. Great ideas, folks, I'll be adding and modifying some rules tomorrow! Feel free to keep scanning the rules and suggestion improvements, I like helping. ^^

Glad to help.

[Mr.X]

Can we have a rule where a team can't choose the same faction twice in a row?

OR forbid the use of the same factions between sets. Like if Vaegirs and Nords are used in the first map, you should pick other factions that aren't those two.  That'll add a bit of variation to the match ups and encourage teams to get good at other factions that aren't nords or vaegirs.

I like it. Finally we get play different factions!

[Kitten-mew!]

After a bit of thought, I'm thinking that one side picking a faction immediately eliminates it for both sides. Sure you might end up with Nords vs. Vaegirs first map, but second map a far more interesting match-up may await!

[Captain Lust]

You could always go random...

[Kitten-mew!]

Imagine someone getting screwed over in a highly important (determining 1st and 2nd place) match by getting Sarranids vs. Nords, though.

[Captain Lust]

Imagine someone getting screwed over in a highly important (determining 1st and 2nd place) match by getting Sarranids vs. Nords, though.

Well yes, it only really works in combination with my other suggestion.