Elder Scrolls 5:Skyrim

[Jome]

Must be you then, I don't let myself get bother by a '' flaw '' so much that I wish to post it on a forum.

But you do let yourself get bothered by people who post about it, and then you post about them. Complaining about complainers? What does that make you, hm? If you don't want to read people's thoughts about the game, then don't read people's thoughts about the game. It's not mandatory to come to this thread, you know.

I think Ringwraith spent more time complaining about flaws than actually playing the game.. 

You're quite right about that, actually. I stopped playing when that patch came out that broke gamepad controls. It was like the first or second patch they put out. Even though a fix has since been found, I've basically given up on Skyrim for now. I'm waiting for Bethsoft to crank out all the DLC and for modders to find and fix all the problems that Bethsoft is going to leave unpached. I have plenty of other stuff to do in the meantime, so when I go back to the game in a year or two, I'll be able to enjoy a complete and stable game with many of its wrinkles ironed out.

Skyrim's bugginess was exaggerated.

There are quite a lot of bugs and glitches, the thing is that many of them have only a very small chance of happening. If every possible glitch happened 100% of the time, the game would be totally unplayable.

Yes, however I poured 200+ hours into the game whereas you stopped playing the game after the first patch. How could you EVER have gathered enough information to assume that the game is flawed? Every game is flawed. I don't see you complaining about Mount and Blade, yet it is more flawed than skyrim. Is it a less enjoyable game though? Never.

It bothers me not that you complain, it bothers me that you ALWAYS complain. Have you even said a single word positive about this game?
Also by no means do I intend to fight with you, just a discussion. Just saying.





While you are OBVIOUSLY correct, do not think I don't think likewise, you have to see it from bethesda's point of view..

do we create a complicated game with a lot of lore so that the hardcore fans will be satisfied?

Or do we create a simplified game with still a lot to do so people who don't know about the lore ( for instance I never knew about the daedric way of making armour till now ) so that everyone can enjoy?

They are making a game for profit and not for letting you enjoy said game. They could stop making games right now and not even care about what you think.

[Nahkuri]

Yeah. Lore-wise, Morrowind handled the Daedric crap the best. IIRC you needed all the expansions to find a full gear of it. Unless you killed Divayth Fyr, a wizard who had a full set of it. He was hundreds of years old too, and had been ******** about the Oblivion plenty of times(or something along those lines) so it's no wonder he had a full set.

Well, at least you won't find ******** bandits in Daedric gear in Skyrim like you did in Oblivilol.


EDIT: Oh, RW has complained plenty about M&B.

[Toffee]

It was a slight exaggeration, but I haven't played the game in a while and it was horrible enough to be difficult to enjoy when I played it. Gonna wait for all the unofficial mods to do their bidding. I couldn't even finish a single questline because they all broke on me.

You must have awful luck. The only serious problem I had was the werewolf in the Ring of Hircine quest not fighting back, which made things way too easy. Restarting the game fixed it, though. Also, this was back in December.

Anyways, I'm having a lot of fun playing as a mage. Midas Magic added some interesting things, although it seems to have been abandoned. Luckily, Apocalypse Spell Package came out, which has even more creative stuff. From the looks of it, it's not all throw ball of whatever element at guy for so much damage.

[MadocComadrin]

Wow, you have strawman goggles like a lesbian anime fan has yuri goggles. I was talking about how iCock held a reasonable assumption based on the tone of the complaints on the armors.

Anyway,

Being able to make that at a village forge with supplies bought from the local pawn shop is way too little distance in this case.

That's deceptive really. You're ignoring the perks and smithing leveling required to make daedric armor. While I agree it's a little too farfetched the way you can buy a daedra heart from some stores instead of having enough places to actually get some in combat, the distance is actually there: it's the lore-friendliness that's not.

[Schemer]

Or do we create a simplified game with still a lot to do so people who don't know about the lore ( for instance I never knew about the daedric way of making armour till now ) so that everyone can enjoy?

To be fair, that particular piece of lore is (as far as I can remember) only mentioned by two or three NPCs in Morrowind and is only one paragraph of dialogue. A questline or special way of forging daedric would have been a great way to introduce this lore. In general, I think Bethesda could integrate more lore into their games in ways that could make fun gameplay mechanics or quests.

Shivering Isles and Battlespire were great ways to integrate daedric lore with a questline and story, for example, and show that daedra does not mean simply evil people.

[Nahkuri]

YDRC. Morrowind had three different types of Daedric helmets, each called a mask of something-not-nice.

[FrisianDude]

YDRC. Morrowind had three different types of Daedric helmets, each called a mask of something-not-nice.

Oops, now I deleted my comment with yours still there. You're right. There was no standard 'Daedric helmet' but the Faces of Inspiration, Terror and God.

[Ringwraith #5]

Yes, however I poured 200+ hours into the game whereas you stopped playing the game after the first patch.

And that's relevant how exactly?

How could you EVER have gathered enough information to assume that the game is flawed? Every game is flawed.

I don't think I need to add anything to this.

I don't see you complaining about Mount and Blade.

Wow. That is so going into my sig.

It bothers me not that you complain, it bothers me that you ALWAYS complain. Have you even said a single word positive about this game?

Yes, quite a few.

do we create a complicated game with a lot of lore so that the hardcore fans will be satisfied?

Or do we create a simplified game with still a lot to do so people who don't know about the lore ( for instance I never knew about the daedric way of making armour till now ) so that everyone can enjoy?

False dichotomy, the two approaches are not mutually exclusive. Just because one specific set of armor is very hard to obtain does not make the rest of the game any more complex or inaccessible.

They are making a game for profit and not for letting you enjoy said game.

Perhaps it is naive of me, but I think even Todd Howard deep down wants to make a good game. Yes, money is an important motivation, but I don't think it's the only one, or even the primary one.

Wow, you have strawman goggles like a lesbian anime fan has yuri goggles. I was talking about how iCock held a reasonable assumption based on the tone of the complaints on the armors.

My apologies, I misunderstood. Still, that doesn't make iCock's argument any more valid, or yours.

Being able to make that at a village forge with supplies bought from the local pawn shop is way too little distance in this case.

That's deceptive really. You're ignoring the perks and smithing leveling required to make daedric armor.

No I'm not.

Apparently the best way to obtain the knowledge of how to make the best armor in the world is simply to make a metric fuckton of iron daggers.

While I agree it's a little too farfetched the way you can buy a daedra heart from some stores instead of having enough places to actually get some in combat, the distance is actually there: it's the lore-friendliness that's not.

So now you're basically touting mindless grind as a virtue. I don't think I even need to say anything to that.

[Jome]

All I'm saying with the first thing is if you have 3 play throughs then you should encounter more flaws. I have seen very little flaws whereas you have seen a gazillion.

[Frosty]

Are there any bandit armour mods that change their armour to armour better suited in snowy conditions on the Steam workshop? (I tried searching, but anything I type it just says there is nothing, even If I typed trees)

[Nahkuri]

Well, Winter Is Coming at least gives a lot of them warm looking fur cloaks and hoods.

[Orchid]

Just got the Hedge Knight armour mod from Skyrim Nexus! Bloody hell, it looks awesome! The guy who made it has several more armour mods and they're all equally amazing.

[Ringwraith #5]

All I'm saying with the first thing is if you have 3 play throughs then you should encounter more flaws. I have seen very little flaws whereas you have seen a gazillion.

That just means my standards are higher than yours.

[Mage246]

Given the amount that you complain about things, I don't think anything meets your standards that you have not made yourself.

[Nipplemelter]

I'm curious; what games have you played, Ring, that you have very few complaints about?