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Companion like and dislike [spoiler]
« on: September 14, 2010, 10:19:59 AM »
Anyone play long enough to know which companion like/dislike each other?


Edited by Idibil:


Possible Companions are:

-Osmund
-Aleifr
-Eithne
-Athrwys ap Gwawrddur
-Frioc
-Bodero
-Bridei
-Siwi
-Lothar
-Ceawlin
-Gwenllian
-Orosio
-Liuva
-Brian
-Agasicles
-Aedh
-Ciniod
-Onuist
-Eadwin
-Mihael ap Cadwalladr
-Ultan
-Inka
-Eadfrith Cearling
-Matui Turthail
-Clovis
-Connor mac Odhrain
« Last Edit: March 19, 2011, 10:33:45 AM by Idibil »

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Re: Companion like and dislike
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2010, 12:27:15 PM »
Yeah, I've sort of taken for granted that I know all the M&B companion compatibilities, but I can only connect a few of the characters in Brytenwalda to their Calradian counterparts.  Plus, there's extras.  I personally don't enjoy this problem-solving minigame to get a stable group of companions; is there any chance we could get some hints?  I didn't pay close enough attention when they first started complaining, and now I don't even know who's pissed at whom.

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Re: Companion like and dislike
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2010, 03:23:53 PM »
for likes I've come up with
Lothar & Eithne
Orosio & Bodero
Athrws ap (something) & Frioc
Brian & Agasicles
Aleifr is the trader but I haven't been able to find his partner before he gets mad and leaves.
 
I haven't kept track of who doesn't like each other.  But I agree, this isn't an entertaining part of the game.

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Re: Companion like and dislike
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2010, 10:06:58 PM »
I got some bits too, but i started to takes notes too late, and some may be wrong (i got 3 dislikes for Ultan  :P)

Likes:

Aleifr & Osmund
Inka & Eadfrith C.
Liuva & Siwi

Dislikes:

Aleifr - Lothar

Ultan - Congal
         - Onuist
         - Eadfrith C.


Bridei - Osmund

Agasicles - Aedth
               - Orosio

Brian - Eithne

Domnaill - Clovis
              - Congal

Clovis - Eadfrith C.
          - Domnaill


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Re: Companion like and dislike
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2010, 11:00:28 PM »
Three dislikes concerning Eadfrith c
 Edwin dislikes him
 Domnell Likes him? (eadfrith doesnt like him though.)
 And Gwtono dislikes him ( Or whatever his name is)
« Last Edit: September 17, 2010, 12:13:09 AM by Lokloklok »

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Re: Companion like and dislike [spoiler]
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2010, 08:23:58 PM »
and who is a noble ??
I want to give they a fief

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Re: Companion like and dislike [spoiler]
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2010, 02:56:02 AM »
Forgive any misspellings but this is what I've found so far:

         Character
      
         Dislikes
      
         Likes
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         Aedh
      
         - Osmund
      
         - Bridie
      
         
      
         - Agasicles
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         Agasicles
      
         - Ciniod
      
         - Brian
      
         
      
         - Orosio
      
         
      
         
      
         - Aedh
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         Aleifr
      
         - Frioc
      
         - Osmund
      
         
      
         - Lothar
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         Athrwys ap Gwawrddur
      
         - Bridie
      
         - Frioc
      
         
      
         - Ceawlin
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         Bodero
      
         - Gwenllian
      
         - Orosio
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         Brian
      
         - Caewlin
      
         - Agasicles
      
         
      
         - Eithne
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         Bridie
      
         - Onuist
      
         - Aedh
      
         
      
         - Athrwys ap Gwawrddur
      
         
      
         
      
         - Osmund
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         Ceawlin
      
         - Athrwys ap Gwawrddur
      
         - Gwenllian
      
         
      
         - Brian
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         Ciniod
      
         - Agasicles
      
         
      
         
      
         - Inka
      
         
      
         
      
         - Gwenwillian
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         Clovis
      
         - Eadfrith Cearling
      
         - Congal
      
         
      
         - Domnail
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         Congal
      
         - Ultan
      
         - Domnail
      
         
      
         - Domnail (He likes and dislikes him)
      
         
      
         
      
         - Clovis
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         Domnail
      
         - Clovis
      
         - Congal
      
         
      
         - Eadfrith Cearling
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         Eadfrith Cearling
      
         - Ultan
      
         
      
         
      
         - Domnail
      
         
      
         
      
         - Edwin
      
         
      
         
      
         - Clovis
      
         
      
         
      
         - Gwydno
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         Edwin
      
         - Eadfrith Cearling
      
         
      
         
      
         - Gwydno
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         Eithne
      
         - Siwi
      
         
      
         
      
         - Brian
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         Frioc
      
         - Aleifr
      
         - Athrwys ap Gwawrddur
      
         
      
         - Gwenllian
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         Gwenllian
      
         - Frioc
      
         - Ceawlin
      
         
      
         - Bodero
      
         
      
         
      
         - Ciniod
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         Gwydno
      
         - Edwin
      
         - Inka
      
         
      
         - Eadfrith Cearling
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         Inka
      
         - Onuist
      
         - Ultan
      
         
      
         - Ciniod
      
         - Edwin
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         Liuva
      
         - Lothar
      
         - Siwi
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         Lothar
      
         - Liuva
      
         
      
         
      
         - Aleifr
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         Onuist
      
         - Bridie
      
         
      
         
      
         - Inka
      
         
      
         
      
         - Orosio
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         Orosio
      
         - Siwi
      
         - Bodero
      
         
      
         - Agasicles
      
         
      
         
      
         - Onuist
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         Osmund
      
         - Bridie
      
         - Aleifr
      
         
      
         - Adeh
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         Siwi
      
         - Orosio
      
         - Liuva
      
         
      
         - Eithne
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
         Ultan
      
         - Eadfrith Cearling
      
         - Inka
      
         
      
         - Congal
      
         
      
« Last Edit: October 06, 2010, 02:23:11 PM by SleeStak »

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Re: Companion like and dislike [spoiler]
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2010, 03:07:31 AM »
Yeah, I have in my notes that Domnail dislikes Cogal, but that Cogal likes Domnail...


Did the 1.2 patch change any companion relationships? All my info is from 1.1 :x

I personally would find dual wielding two shields very effective. It might not be historically accurate, but climbing a 50ft long, 2ft wide ladder, at an 80 degree angle, without the use of hands, in order to invade a castle filled with rhodok crossbowmen isn't either.

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Re: Companion like and dislike [spoiler]
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2010, 04:53:06 AM »
Additional info from my research:

Additional companion: Brian

Dislikes:

Ciniod and Gwenwillian, Caewlin and Brian, Onuist and Orosio

Likes:

Bridie and Aedh, Frioc and Athrwys, Ultan and Inka

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Re: Companion like and dislike [spoiler]
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2010, 05:22:52 AM »
Thank you ppga and Puritan, I've added input into my original post.

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Re: Companion like and dislike [spoiler]
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2010, 05:58:01 AM »
So I went so far as to go into the files to see what I could find, and I discovered that 16 of the characters are renamed and have new stories, but their likes and dislikes remain the same.  Their dialogue can be misleading, and some genders have even changed.  Here's what I found:

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As you can see, there's a lot of missing data, but some of this stuff is just hard to put together in-game.  Hope this helps some of you.

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Re: Companion like and dislike [spoiler]
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2010, 07:24:41 PM »
So I went so far as to go into the files to see what I could find, and I discovered that 16 of the characters are renamed and have new stories, but their likes and dislikes remain the same.  Their dialogue can be misleading, and some genders have even changed.  Here's what I found:

(click to show/hide)

As you can see, there's a lot of missing data, but some of this stuff is just hard to put together in-game.  Hope this helps some of you.

1) Did you use anything special  to read the files?

2) How does the race factor in? Do certain races not get along?
« Last Edit: September 20, 2010, 07:45:51 PM by Puritan »

I personally would find dual wielding two shields very effective. It might not be historically accurate, but climbing a 50ft long, 2ft wide ladder, at an 80 degree angle, without the use of hands, in order to invade a castle filled with rhodok crossbowmen isn't either.

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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2010, 08:05:35 PM »
I used notepad ++ because it's easy to search through a large amount of text, but you could use windows notepad if you had the patience.  In native, each of the 16 companions is assigned a number, and I believe the simple triggers file is what causes the companions to like or dislike each other.  The easiest way to convert from Calradian characters to new ones, then, is just to rename and reequip them.  In gameplay, I've found that the converted native characters do have the same likes and dislikes, so the real mystery is what the new ones like or dislike.

The race does not factor in at all.  Not one bit.  But, if you wanted to roleplay an Angle-hating Briton, you may not want an Angle in your party.  That's all, nothing more.  A few characters don't have a well defined race, anyway.

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Re: Companion like and dislike [spoiler]
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2010, 05:53:17 PM »
I used notepad ++ because it's easy to search through a large amount of text, but you could use windows notepad if you had the patience.  In native, each of the 16 companions is assigned a number, and I believe the simple triggers file is what causes the companions to like or dislike each other.  The easiest way to convert from Calradian characters to new ones, then, is just to rename and reequip them.  In gameplay, I've found that the converted native characters do have the same likes and dislikes, so the real mystery is what the new ones like or dislike.

The race does not factor in at all.  Not one bit.  But, if you wanted to roleplay an Angle-hating Briton, you may not want an Angle in your party.  That's all, nothing more.  A few characters don't have a well defined race, anyway.

Hmmm, didn't know any of the files were accesible that way. I'll look into that.

I think you have bridei (I had her whine about Athrwys not being nice) and aedh flip-flopped, otherwise you're dead on about the original 16.

Modified graphic
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Combined list of new companion dislikes (thank you td_klondike, and SleeStak ):

(click to show/hide)

Now, how to represent the additional companions in graphic form...
« Last Edit: September 24, 2010, 07:22:51 PM by Puritan »

I personally would find dual wielding two shields very effective. It might not be historically accurate, but climbing a 50ft long, 2ft wide ladder, at an 80 degree angle, without the use of hands, in order to invade a castle filled with rhodok crossbowmen isn't either.

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Re: Companion like and dislike [spoiler]
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2010, 08:13:29 PM »
I used notepad ++ because it's easy to search through a large amount of text, but you could use windows notepad if you had the patience.  In native, each of the 16 companions is assigned a number, and I believe the simple triggers file is what causes the companions to like or dislike each other.  The easiest way to convert from Calradian characters to new ones, then, is just to rename and reequip them.  In gameplay, I've found that the converted native characters do have the same likes and dislikes, so the real mystery is what the new ones like or dislike.

The race does not factor in at all.  Not one bit.  But, if you wanted to roleplay an Angle-hating Briton, you may not want an Angle in your party.  That's all, nothing more.  A few characters don't have a well defined race, anyway.

Hmmm, didn't know any of the files were accesible that way. I'll look into that.

I think you have bridei (I had her whine about Athrwys not being nice) and aedh flip-flopped, otherwise you're dead on about the original 16.

Modified graphic
(click to show/hide)


Combined list of new companion dislikes (thank you td_klondike, and SleeStak ):

(click to show/hide)

Now, how to represent the additional companions in graphic form...


Wow. Great work