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Long-Bows Highly underated
viciouspiggy:
--- Quote from: sneakey pete on June 25, 2006, 12:09:13 PM ---
Yeah, well, in year 0 AD a guy called jesus was born.
there's no real proof of this incident (the arrow could have been lodged in further when he fell)
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I think I'll stick to the most important and academically regarded first-hand account of Welsh history, thanks. What do you want, the skeleton of the horse? Modern stress-tests on bows recovered from the Mary Rose have proven the Longbow of being perfectly capable of doing this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_of_Wales [inactive]
Swordmaster: Actually, Mongol bows have shorter range than Longbows. While it is possible to shoot very far with almost any bow, accuracy is a different thing alltogether. The steppe bows are reflex bows that were built in a way to make it possible to shoot them from horseback. The tactical flexibility this afforded was much more important than a few score meters in overall range. Historically, a very good archer could shoot a man-sized target up to 80 meters or so, and at battle formations at around 200 meters. Longer range shooting was possible, but the arrow's flight became so erratic that it was a matter of luck more than skill if a hit was scored.
Swordmaster:
Yes I know but I meant that longbows' range may be wider than the shortbows. You got me wrong. :wink:
Merentha:
--- Quote from: Llew2 on June 25, 2006, 12:56:00 PM ---OK I agree with you...but you can be accurate with a long bow. I have one, and I've shot it and so I know about what it can do. and it's not to hard to hit a target (I'll admit that it's a 45lb bow) but still...that thing has Power!
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Yeah, you know real longbows were 120-150 lb pull, right? You can be accurate, but at what range? A person sprinting can easily cross 50 yards in 10 seconds, even in armor (assuming the ground is relatively stable). 100 yards takes about 15 seconds, unless you are some kind of amazing athlete. The reason longbows (and almost all bows) would arch shots was for the archers' safety. Once you start getting into the range where the archers can directly fire and aim, the archers start having to worry about their own safety.
Archonsod:
--- Quote from: First Citizen on June 25, 2006, 11:49:30 AM ---At this stage in mount&blade, for the size of the battles currently represented, to make bows more powerful would seriously imbalance the game without necessarily being more realistic.
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Depends. It took dedicated training to effectively use a Longbow. If one increased the requirements to use it you could make it more powerful without unbalancing the game.
I'm not just talking about power draw either - you could make the archery skill have a greater effect on the bow (perhaps halve the effect of the skill on the bow) or even decrease the optimum shot time (the length of time the crosshair stays in the centre).
Would be a good way to distinguish between different bows actually, or open them up to modifiers similar to weapon ones.
Swordmaster:
Decreasing the optimum shot time is a good idea, I think.
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