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Re: Castle builders and angry peasants.
« Reply #840 on: September 09, 2011, 04:48:27 PM »
Is there any reference for these scenes, like a townmap or a groundplan? If there isn't all the work is unfortunately for nothing. Which ingame scene you used to edit is irrelevant, only the place the scene is based on is relevant.
Anyway, it is already great to see your work.

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Re: Castle builders and angry peasants.
« Reply #841 on: September 09, 2011, 06:38:06 PM »
altered Orleans

really great work :P
While the beta version with no small parts

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Re: Castle builders and angry peasants.
« Reply #842 on: September 09, 2011, 06:41:49 PM »
Is there any reference for these scenes, like a townmap or a groundplan? If there isn't all the work is unfortunately for nothing. Which ingame scene you used to edit is irrelevant, only the place the scene is based on is relevant.
Anyway, it is already great to see your work.
I edited the scene of the Aachen
I am Russian, I find it hard to understand you, what should I do to bring their work to you?

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Re: Castle builders and angry peasants.
« Reply #843 on: September 09, 2011, 07:50:30 PM »
altered Orleans


Great but I think it should use my french props instead of these Roman-like and English-like Native props, which are inaccurate for Orleans. I can do it if you're too lazy.

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Re: Castle builders and angry peasants.
« Reply #844 on: September 09, 2011, 07:54:31 PM »
There are historical places in this mod, like Aachen, Cologne, Bonn and so on. Their ingame scenes often don't match, because there are often custom made generic scenes or still native scenes. Making a scene for Orleans for example requires knowledge about the look of Orleans mid 13th century and the scene you make has to reflect the past. You can't just make a scene and call it Orleans.

If there is any native russian speaker here, just write in russian what I and others have asked for, namely references for the scenes mazai made.

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Re: Castle builders and angry peasants.
« Reply #845 on: September 09, 2011, 09:57:57 PM »
There are historical places in this mod, like Aachen, Cologne, Bonn and so on. Their ingame scenes often don't match, because there are often custom made generic scenes or still native scenes. Making a scene for Orleans for example requires knowledge about the look of Orleans mid 13th century and the scene you make has to reflect the past. You can't just make a scene and call it Orleans.

If there is any native russian speaker here, just write in russian what I and others have asked for, namely references for the scenes mazai made.
The scene that I did this medieval Orleans.
is in our Russian man with whom I could talk about the scenes?
altered the scene of Carcassonne

« Last Edit: September 09, 2011, 10:11:22 PM by mazai »

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Re: Castle builders and angry peasants.
« Reply #846 on: September 09, 2011, 10:13:23 PM »
There are historical places in this mod, like Aachen, Cologne, Bonn and so on. Their ingame scenes often don't match, because there are often custom made generic scenes or still native scenes. Making a scene for Orleans for example requires knowledge about the look of Orleans mid 13th century and the scene you make has to reflect the past. You can't just make a scene and call it Orleans.

If there is any native Russian speaker here, just write in Russian what I and others have asked for, namely references for the scenes Mazai made.

Surely you can't expect everything to be historically accurate.  :| There's always gonna be a mismatch since it's hard to find plans of the towns and castles of the times. Even if they are available, doesn't mean they can be the same. It's a game not a history lesson.  :mrgreen: They do their best to reflect the architecture and other aspects of the game of the period this game is based in. Perhaps you could help by pointing out exactly what's wrong with their work and give them some constructive feedback instead of just saying it's not what it looked like 800 years ago.  :roll:

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Re: Castle builders and angry peasants.
« Reply #847 on: September 09, 2011, 11:00:14 PM »
mazai, you should use my french towers and walls for French scenes.

Carcassonne:
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My props:
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« Last Edit: September 09, 2011, 11:02:48 PM by Al_Mansur »

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Re: Castle builders and angry peasants.
« Reply #848 on: September 10, 2011, 12:07:38 AM »
There are historical places in this mod, like Aachen, Cologne, Bonn and so on. Their ingame scenes often don't match, because there are often custom made generic scenes or still native scenes. Making a scene for Orleans for example requires knowledge about the look of Orleans mid 13th century and the scene you make has to reflect the past. You can't just make a scene and call it Orleans.

If there is any native Russian speaker here, just write in Russian what I and others have asked for, namely references for the scenes Mazai made.

Surely you can't expect everything to be historically accurate.  :| There's always gonna be a mismatch since it's hard to find plans of the towns and castles of the times. Even if they are available, doesn't mean they can be the same. It's a game not a history lesson.  :mrgreen: They do their best to reflect the architecture and other aspects of the game of the period this game is based in. Perhaps you could help by pointing out exactly what's wrong with their work and give them some constructive feedback instead of just saying it's not what it looked like 800 years ago.  :roll:

Why don't you read what I write instead of making up shit I never wrote? Where did I write that his scenes are "not what [they] looked like 800 years ago". I didn't say that anywhere!

I simply asked for a reference, like others did, but he still hasn't come up with anything of the sort and he might just waste his time in creating scenes of the top of his head. Neither do I know, if his scenes are really complete, meaning an AI mesh is there, the entry points and passages. Given his understanding of the english language or lack thereof, I doubt he understands tutorials in this forum or the little bit of help to be found in edit mode, nor can I explain it to him.

And you are unaware that I made several scenes for this mod, aren't you? "They do their best" in creating scenes and I am one of them. I find it very hard not to insult folk like you, when you try to lecture me with your ignorance.

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Re: Castle builders and angry peasants.
« Reply #849 on: September 10, 2011, 12:23:44 AM »
+1 UghUghUgh

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Re: Castle builders and angry peasants.
« Reply #850 on: September 10, 2011, 02:22:05 AM »
altered Orleans


I will conquer that city! It's fabolous!  :D

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Re: Castle builders and angry peasants.
« Reply #851 on: September 10, 2011, 06:44:32 AM »
mazai, you should use my french towers and walls for French scenes.

Carcassonne:
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My props:
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How can I send you these scenes? folder SceneObj is Fail. They reworked the scene?

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Re: Castle builders and angry peasants.
« Reply #852 on: September 10, 2011, 09:48:08 AM »
Mazai, there is a russian subforum, can you ask for help there? Here is the link: http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/board,13.0.html

Otherwise, upload to a filehoster, like www.fileserve.com and post the download link here.
We also need the terrain code of each scene, which can be found in the scenes.txt in the mods main folder. If you edited the Aachen scene to create Orleans the terrain code should be 0x00000002300005008006b1b000007dd800006630000031bd for 'scn_aachen_center'.

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Re: Castle builders and angry peasants.
« Reply #853 on: September 10, 2011, 12:40:43 PM »
There are historical places in this mod, like Aachen, Cologne, Bonn and so on. Their ingame scenes often don't match, because there are often custom made generic scenes or still native scenes. Making a scene for Orleans for example requires knowledge about the look of Orleans mid 13th century and the scene you make has to reflect the past. You can't just make a scene and call it Orleans.

If there is any native Russian speaker here, just write in Russian what I and others have asked for, namely references for the scenes Mazai made.

Surely you can't expect everything to be historically accurate.  :| There's always gonna be a mismatch since it's hard to find plans of the towns and castles of the times. Even if they are available, doesn't mean they can be the same. It's a game not a history lesson.  :mrgreen: They do their best to reflect the architecture and other aspects of the game of the period this game is based in. Perhaps you could help by pointing out exactly what's wrong with their work and give them some constructive feedback instead of just saying it's not what it looked like 800 years ago.  :roll:

Why don't you read what I write instead of making up shit I never wrote? Where did I write that his scenes are "not what [they] looked like 800 years ago". I didn't say that anywhere!

I simply asked for a reference, like others did, but he still hasn't come up with anything of the sort and he might just waste his time in creating scenes of the top of his head. Neither do I know, if his scenes are really complete, meaning an AI mesh is there, the entry points and passages. Given his understanding of the english language or lack thereof, I doubt he understands tutorials in this forum or the little bit of help to be found in edit mode, nor can I explain it to him.

And you are unaware that I made several scenes for this mod, aren't you? "They do their best" in creating scenes and I am one of them. I find it very hard not to insult folk like you, when you try to lecture me with your ignorance.

The bold sentence is the answer to your first question. My post wasn't just intended for the quoted comment but to some others I've seen you posting on the forum. I can dig up a few but this isn't the time or the place to start a verbal fight that can go on and on. And what makes you say I'm arrogant? I don't see anywhere in my comment that I'm clearly stating I'm superior to you in any way. I'm merely saying you're searching for perfection that clearly can't be reached due to lack of information about the 13th century. About arrogance, I actually believe it's vice versa. You're the one who keeps saying you know facts better than the rest of us, e.g in the Alternate Recruitment-discussion.

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Re: Castle builders and angry peasants.
« Reply #854 on: September 10, 2011, 01:56:41 PM »
Добавил собор и зданий.