You are certainly insulting people, whether you're trolling of course is subjective, but I'd say you are.
You say you're not ignoring points of view and that you've quoted them; it's interesting however just how selective you've been in most of your quotes. Often someone will write an argument, you'll quote a small section of it and then, instead of arguing against it, will just make some trite, bigoted joke. Not exactly what I would call sensible debate.
You have also now dropped your realism argument, in which case, we must take gameplay over realism. Getting killed while unarmed and unable to defend oneself does not make for a fun game, therefore there should be rules.
often someone will write an argument, ill quote the part i feel i need to rebut and then, instead of making some trite, bigoted joke (lol wtf), i will rebut it. sensible debate? i'm not here to debate sensibly. i'm johnno, mate. get used to it. _sooner_ than later, preferable
now you're telling me i've dropped my realism argument, when FIRST OF ALL i wasn't arguing realism at all, i was showing the similarities between real life and this mod. have i dropped that? no i haven't i still believe strongly in what i said, and you're telling me i don't? that i've dropped that? christ son you need to read my posts more thoroughly (or actually read them) because from what you've been saying it sounds like you haven't even bothered to comprehend what i'm saying. it shows, when you label me as a troll, lol? how so? because i dropped in a 'u mad?' a few times? CHIRST son, if you think thats trolling, stay away from 4chan. get rid of this 'he said something i dont like so its trolling' mentality.
we don't have to go into realism _over_ gameplay, this mod has proven to be very fun for people who aren't sheep like yourself, and the few others who complain about being killed by bandits or whatever their womanly experiences are.
how clear does it have to be made
there are no rules
in this mod
also vermin, i haven't been insulting you this whole thread, i've only began talking to you since page 5 (maybe 4, i don't know). i quoted half of what you said, because that whole chunk in the middle of what you said was just your story of you being killed by bandits or something, i can't remember, but yeah, it wasn't really an argument or a point or anything, so i felt no need to quote it. i'll quote it again and maybe you'll see how irrelevant it is, hang on a sec.
edit: quoting vermin as promised.
Anyway, for people who are willing to listen,
I have played this mod several times and Ive only found to to be interesting when there are some proper factions and/or people RPing.
When I first played this mod I got killed three times before I could even get to an armoury. Unlike our friend Used thinks, women like me dont give up that easily and I kept trying until I got into the White group, defending the innocents and eventually defeating the 'bad' faction(green at the time).
I know alot of people who would never have gotten that far, who would have given up after being killed three times. People who might have been good RPers but quit because the 'though' kids(like Used the 'bandit-hero') enjoy killing them while they cant defend themselves.
Unfortunatly, it took me a while to find another game like that, sometimes you just have factions who only want people from a specific clan, country or group, the rest of the server cant(or dont want to) organize themselves and thats it. If there are, in such a case, no rules, you just die alot without achieving anything.
In another case it was just a giant DM party, where everyone ran around and killed whoever they saw. Seriously, if I want to play DM, I'll go to a DM-server where I can simply select my equipment in the menu, without having to mine and visit an armoury where some lowly little kid such as yourself is camping.
If everyone on a server wants to RP and play properly, its fun. However, there are always 5-yr-olds who enjoy killing unarmed 'because they can'. a basic 'no killing unarmed' rule take away their fun and makes them go away.
You can give it time, but it wont stop those 5-yr olds from randomming.
yeah you got killed a few times and you stuck it out, cool! you're saying the mod was a giant dm party (sounds familiar, oh that's right, 1 or 2 other people in this thread have been incessantly repeating the same thing), wow! that's tough! like i said, the mod is like that. it's not for the weak, or the faint hearted. fortunately, you've toughed it out. the only bad part is, you don't enjoy it. well boo hoo to you. also, i 'signed' myself as John_the_bandit_hero, because I sign as something random every time. you might've noticed that if you read my posts (did you? if so how didn't you notice that?) can you see why i didn't feel the need to quote/reply to that? it's just your story of how the mod isn't fun for you.
it's not for everybody.