[Suggestion] Peasants get daggers

[Sushiman]

The point is, any idiot can come up and stab you, as soon as he's spawned. If you're about to finish mining 5000, that'd **** you off. If you've just finished buying the legend sword, and some guy walks up behind you, stabs you, and steals it from your corpse, that'd **** you off. If someone kills him, he doesn't have to buy anything, he can just come straight back, and do it again. And again. And again. And again. And again.

[MrShovelFace]

if you get killed by a peasant with a knife when you have the sword of 1000 truths you dont deserve to have it

[Sushiman]

Read the post, idiot. If you've JUST FINISHED buying it, and he WALKS UP BEHIND YOU, you may not realise he's there.

[MrShovelFace]

how is a peasant supposed to kill you with a 14c (ish) knife before you can hit him once?

[Sushiman]

What, and you can get from the spawn, to the mine, to the to of the castle, with out being hit by anything or anyone once? Also, if said assailant is a proficient manual blocker, then having a huge sword makes no difference if you can get killed by a guy with a dagger.

[MrShovelFace]

except you cant manually block with daggers and it pretty much ties into gameplay that if you have low health then you dont go to the armoury (the most dangerous part of the map)

[Sushiman]

If you can't block with daggers, WTF is the point of having them?

[MrShovelFace]

Self defense. thats what this post is about

[Sushiman]

If you can't block, how do you intend on defending. You, sirrah, fail at logic.

[Damn]

If you can't block, how do you intend on defending. You, sirrah, fail at logic.

They can do feint attack since 1.126 + have a good speed rating, which come in handy for chamberblocks. It's not a perfect weapon, but better than nothing.
* one lil edit - not daggers (It's more like militias weapon, not peasants). Butching knife is ok. Or club. at least it has blocks.

[Tercero]

Maybe there is a way to create "barriers" like the ones inside the game that doesnt allow you to go throught, but if you pass this "barrier" you wont be able to get out your weapons or maybe ot able to use them but your shield (so people outside the barrier cant shoot you). Then if you pass through the barrier again, you would be able to use your weapons again normally.

What do you think?

[Sushiman]

Maybe there is a way to create "barriers" like the ones inside the game that doesnt allow you to go throught, but if you pass this "barrier" you wont be able to get out your weapons or maybe ot able to use them but your shield (so people outside the barrier cant shoot you). Then if you pass through the barrier again, you would be able to use your weapons again normally.

What do you think?

+1

[Grakelin]

I actually agree with giving a very weak weapon to new people. Even a staff would be okay (you can still get free staves, but you have to go to the Red Castle at the moment). The game wouldn't really become any more death matchy than it is now (I still don't understand why people think this is the case).

The point is, any idiot can come up and stab you, as soon as he's spawned. If you're about to finish mining 5000, that'd **** you off. If you've just finished buying the legend sword, and some guy walks up behind you, stabs you, and steals it from your corpse, that'd **** you off. If someone kills him, he doesn't have to buy anything, he can just come straight back, and do it again. And again. And again. And again. And again.

Any idiot can kick or punch you when you're about to finish mining 5000 and get the same effect. The heated argument which flooded this page of the thread is pointless, as well, because it really is nearly impossible for somebody to sneak up on you on top of Excalibur Tower; the ladder climbs exceptionally slowly, and you would notice the culprit riding up behind you. There's nowhere to hide up top to wait, either (not that anybody even has the patience for that).

Now that localized chat and name identification is in, the largest problem is indeed the complete helplessness of new players and the monotonous gold collecting exercise. On the 22nd server, I rarely collect gold at all. I just ride into battlefields, pick up some loot from the corpses, and ride off again before anybody realizes I was there. Looting the 5000 and 2000 gold chests and ore mines is tactically unsound, anyways, due to the risk of somebody attacking. I always go for the 200 and 500 chests because they go fast enough that I know I will make some money even if somebody bursts in and attacks me (I'm not even entirely sure that it's faster to take the 2000 and 5000, either, though I imagine it must be).

I feel like gaining money for being in a certain area instead of having to mine something would be better design, if it's possible.

[MrShovelFace]

um ok.. you took it a little too far wacko

1. who the hell said anything about the excalibre tower? he was making an example and
2. wtf are you talking about?? we are talking about knives, not what is the safest way to get gold. Point is that spawned players cant outride the bastards who ride coursers with chainmail and weapons so i want to give them a small chance to win rather than being so completely helpless

[The Profileth]

I vote for increased hand to hand damage!