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Re: [S] Warband Battle Size Changer v1.3
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2010, 11:34:11 AM »
I changed the battle size to 150 (it was on 72) and I clicked save and exit.. But then still nothing changed..
What do you mean "nothing changed"? When you ran the utility again, the number was reset back, or what exactly? Since you couldn't find the battle size option in-game, I guess I can assume that's not what you're talking about. Please be specific.

I mean that the battle size in-game remained the same.

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Re: [S] Warband Battle Size Changer v1.3
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2010, 11:53:01 AM »
OK then, a few questions to help me pinpoint the problem.

What OS are you on, what version of Warband are you running, and is it the Steam release?

If you run the Battle Size Changer and set a battle size, then Save and Exit and run the Battle Size Changer again, is it showing the changed battle size there, or is it reset at that point?

Finally, if you set a normal acceptable battle size using the Battle Size Changer (75, 40, really anything in the range of say 31 - 149), does Warband then show this changed battle size or is it still not showing it?
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Re: [S] Warband Battle Size Changer v1.3
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2010, 12:21:26 PM »
OK then, a few questions to help me pinpoint the problem.

What OS are you on, what version of Warband are you running, and is it the Steam release?

If you run the Battle Size Changer and set a battle size, then Save and Exit and run the Battle Size Changer again, is it showing the changed battle size there, or is it reset at that point?

Finally, if you set a normal acceptable battle size using the Battle Size Changer (75, 40, really anything in the range of say 31 - 149), does Warband then show this changed battle size or is it still not showing it?

I run vista.
Yes, It is the steam release.
No, If I run battle sizer and increase it to 140 and I save and exit then I close it it changes back to 30 when I reopen it.

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Re: [S] Warband Battle Size Changer v1.3
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2010, 12:48:36 PM »
Very strange. If it encounters a problem (like not being able to save the file), it outputs an error message. So my best guess is that the OS is pulling some tomfoolery or other.

Hmm... do me a favor and try running this debug version at the link below, and tell me what message pops up when you click "Save and Exit".
http://www.mbrepository.com/WB_BattleSizer_debug.zip
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Re: [S] Warband Battle Size Changer v1.3
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2010, 01:01:38 PM »
I will when I get back

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Re: [S] Warband Battle Size Changer v1.3
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2010, 01:04:27 PM »
I Did it in a hurry and I got this



I'm going to a restaurant now so. Try and find a way to fix it and I'll read it when I get back  :)

Thanks in advance mate

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Re: [S] Warband Battle Size Changer v1.3
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2010, 01:41:46 PM »
Hmm, OK. Still quite strange. A new debug version is up at the same link:

http://www.mbrepository.com/WB_BattleSizer_debug.zip

Let me know if it does the same thing or not.
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Re: [S] Warband Battle Size Changer v1.3
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2010, 04:13:14 PM »
Exactly the same error apperently...  :cry:

Btw, When I installed the battle sizer it didn't say the path where it would be installed. I had to select the path myself.. I remember that when I had the Battle Sizer for the original M&B this path was already there and I just had to click install.

And the debugger says that the file is not found.. But it's showing the wrong path cause in that path there is nothing about steam mentioned..

It's the path that should be there if I actually bought the game in the store and installed in on my PC

The path where the game is installed now is... C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\mountblade warband

and the debug windows says a completely other path so it probably couldn't find the file because of that...

But since I'm not the expert about this... (I just know the basics) I don't realy know if this is the problem or not. Let me know
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Re: [S] Warband Battle Size Changer v1.3
« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2010, 04:35:03 PM »
Really bizarre. It's like Windows is pulling a fast one. The same file path is saved to which it loaded from (which obviously worked), and yet even though Windows isn't throwing back an error message which it should if saving the file fails, the file itself doesn't appear to be modified at all. The last debug version I put up had it delete and then recreate the file, and yet still no luck somehow. :?
Someone else was reporting the same thing and they were running the Steam version on Vista 32-bit. I initially thought it might be Steam related, but based on the behavior it's showing it doesn't really appear to be after all. Yet I've also tested it out on a Vista 64-bit VM I have, and it worked for me there.
Unless Steam changed the way it handles Warband vs. how it handled the original M&B, the path for this file shouldn't be different; in fact, since the utility is indeed finding it there and successfully reading the battle size from it, just not successfully writing it, that certainly argues for Warband from Steam working basically the same as M&B did in that respect.

The Warband installation directory is indeed different when using Steam, but the Battle Size Changer for Warband so far doesn't even really need to know where it's installed like the M&B one did.

Hmm. I'll come back to this tomorrow to see if I can wrap my head around it. In the meantime, you might try browsing to the file indicated in that debug message, locating the battle_size value in the file, and perhaps trying to modify it yourself to see if it takes. Try changing it to something like 5.0, which should give a rather large battle size (something around 630 or so, off the top of my head).
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Re: [S] Warband Battle Size Changer v1.3
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2010, 04:48:39 PM »
Hmm okay, I'm going to change it to 150 (in-game) and wait for a solution

Btw Apparently when I increase it to 1000 and click save and exit and I reopen the battle sizer it gets back to 990
And when I make it 250 and reopen the battle sizer it goes back to 150
When I put it to 399 it goes back to 390
If I put it on 200 it goes to 150 when I reopen
and when I put it on 71 it goes back to 30

And also when I then put it on 150 and reopen it it goes back to 30..

so I don't know anymore... Hope this info can help fixing the problem

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Re: [S] Warband Battle Size Changer v1.3
« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2010, 04:56:47 PM »
So wait... I thought you said it wasn't saving the battle size at all? So it is saving it, it's just not coming out to the correct number? That I can maybe work with. 120 is significant, as the stored value is a float where each 1.0 is worth 120 battle size (0.0 = 30, 1.0 = 150, 2.0 = 270, etc), so it sounds like maybe the number is just being rounded off somehow on your system.
I'll post a new debug version tomorrow, and hopefully get it straightened out.
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Re: [S] Warband Battle Size Changer v1.3
« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2010, 05:10:58 PM »
I'm having a bit of the same problem on Windows 7.
I set the battlesize to 502, but in options it says 390.
I open the battlesizer, see it is set at 390 and the save+exit. I open the game, and now the battle size is set to 270...
Seems like something went wrong in the calculations. :)
Also, if I set it to 500 initially, it warns me that setting it any higher than 400 will most likely crash my computer. If I set it to 399, it warns me that setting it any higher than 200 will crash my computer.
So, which is right? :D

I've always been a fan of the battlesizer in the original M&B, but it seems to be a bit bugged here. :)

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Re: [S] Warband Battle Size Changer v1.3
« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2010, 05:16:29 PM »
Again, it works perfectly on quite a few systems (including mine, Windows 7, and my Vista VM as well), so the problem is somehow specific to certain systems. And again, I'll fiddle with it tomorrow further so it works correctly on all systems.

Also, if I set it to 500 initially, it warns me that   setting it any higher than 400 will most likely crash my computer. If I   set it to 399, it warns me that setting it any higher than 200 will   crash my computer.
So, which is right? :D
  Both. If you read more carefully, you'll notice the two messages are different. The 200 one basically indicates you might have problems, the 400 one basically indicates you pretty much certainly will.
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Re: [S] Warband Battle Size Changer v1.3
« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2010, 07:45:29 PM »
Many thanks Janus, Mount and Blade just doesn't feel the same without 300 souls duking it out.

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Re: [S] Warband Battle Size Changer v1.3
« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2010, 07:53:57 PM »
  Both. If you read more carefully, you'll notice the two messages are different. The 200 one basically indicates you might have problems, the 400 one basically indicates you pretty much certainly will.
Did it really change so much from original M&B? I remember using 500 battle size there.
I haven't had a chance to test that in Warband yet, I'm waiting for a fix to make the battle continue after you're knocked out.

That said, great work so far, M&B wouldn't feel quite the same without this battlesizer. :)

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