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Re: Guy throws down a dog from a bridge
« Reply #105 on: February 02, 2010, 12:04:36 AM »
A human life IS worth more than a dog's life, and 100% of all dogs are worthless shit eaters. :P
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Re: Guy throws down a dog from a bridge
« Reply #106 on: February 02, 2010, 12:07:16 AM »
How many people whose languages you don't understand that still declare themselves superior to everything (including other people) have you known, Tiberius?

Just because we don't understand doesn't mean they don't. Many have complex communication skills too, y'know.
I'm sure many predators "think" themselves superior to their prey.

Frisian: If they're worthless shit eaters, how come people use them to find the lost, herd their livestock, oust pests, protect themselves, transportation, eat, etc...?
Dogs are very useful animals.

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Re: Guy throws down a dog from a bridge
« Reply #107 on: February 02, 2010, 12:09:39 AM »
And so are humans mostly. Come now, I'm trying to argue here that this man doesn't have to be killed for what he did to that dog.
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Re: Guy throws down a dog from a bridge
« Reply #108 on: February 02, 2010, 12:10:47 AM »
How many people whose languages you don't understand that still declare themselves superior to other people have you known, Tiberius?

Just because we don't understand doesn't mean they don't. Many have complex communication skills too, y'know.
I'm sure many predators "think" themselves superior to their prey.

Frisian: If they're worthless shit eaters, how come people use them to find the lost, herd their livestock, oust pests, protect themselves, transportation, eat, etc...?
Dogs are very useful animals.

Frisian is being literal here, as some dogs do indeed eat poop.

Anyways, on to the question you stated to me. Dogs do have communication skills, yes. They can express emotion, and call for simple commands. However, do they have the ability to say to another dog "I am superior to other species!"? I think not, unless dogs suddenly turned into raptors and I never noticed.
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Re: Guy throws down a dog from a bridge
« Reply #109 on: February 02, 2010, 12:14:35 AM »
@Fris: Oh, no, I agree with that, don't get me wrong.
But, I also pointed out that most people who do harm to animals are likely to harm people
(and by harm I mean acts such as this guy and the dog, or kids who light kittens on fire and the like)

@Tiberius: My point was that you can't absolutely know that they don't, because we can't understand them completely. We make guesses, but that's about it. We've no knowledge if the yips and barks and body language could translate into "I'm the superior one here" ... actually, sometimes it is obvious, and that usually results in a certain needle in the neck...

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Re: Guy throws down a dog from a bridge
« Reply #110 on: February 02, 2010, 12:16:50 AM »
Well there's only so many different tones of bark, yip, and grr in a dog's vocabulary. Even with the addition of body language, there's only so much you can convey without a more complex vocal system.
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Re: Guy throws down a dog from a bridge
« Reply #111 on: February 02, 2010, 12:20:21 AM »
Basicly living mostly with instincts as animals do, implies to think that you(or the group) are superior to other animals.

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Re: Guy throws down a dog from a bridge
« Reply #112 on: February 02, 2010, 12:21:38 AM »
Actually, body language does convey a lot. If you see someone angry, can't you sense them coming? Dogs can do the same.
There are several different tones in a dog's vocal abilities, and they can perceive what we can not, too, so what do they convey that we don't even catch?
It's adapted for dogs to understand, just like a humans' communication is adapted for humans. It's not hard to think there could be vast networks to many animals' communication that we don't see, simply because they mean nothing to us (and the same is said of ours to them).

And faradon also brings up a point, too. I mean, how often do animals invade each others' territories and decimate any who oppose? Elephants have been known to throw rhinoceri for the littlest of things, or just because...

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Re: Guy throws down a dog from a bridge
« Reply #113 on: February 02, 2010, 12:22:17 AM »
Don't dolphins have a very complex system of communication and are nearly as intelligent as we are?

Also, as to the bell-end; Lock the shithead up. If he gets jollies from killing a dog (talk about overkill anyway), who's to say he couldn't do the same to a person?
Take Alizée Jacotey for instance, I utterly refuse to believe that a gorgeous little crumpet like that could squeeze a 14 inch stonker out her delicate ricker.

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Re: Guy throws down a dog from a bridge
« Reply #114 on: February 02, 2010, 12:29:28 AM »
They’re filthy, flea ridden creatures that sniff each others bottoms & slobber everywhere… That’s the Latvians/French anyway, I quite like dogs though.

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Re: Guy throws down a dog from a bridge
« Reply #115 on: February 02, 2010, 12:30:56 AM »
They’re filthy, flea ridden creatures that sniff each others bottoms & slobber everywhere… That’s the Latvians/French anyway, I quite like dogs though.

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Re: Guy throws down a dog from a bridge
« Reply #116 on: February 02, 2010, 09:48:00 AM »
A human life IS worth more than a dog's life, and 100% of all dogs are worthless shit eaters. :P

Nah... Dogs can actually do something useful unlike most of the humans ... Take a walk around the streets and you'll see what I'm talking about
If you're afraid of dogs that doesn't mean that they are worthless ...

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Re: Guy throws down a dog from a bridge
« Reply #117 on: February 02, 2010, 09:49:47 AM »
If I say dogs are worthless doesn't mean I'm afraid of them, dopestick. :roll:

Al right, some dogs aren't useless. Most people aren't. (No matter what any misanthropist <ie, half the people on this forum> will claim, most humans are simply useful.)
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Re: Guy throws down a dog from a bridge
« Reply #118 on: February 02, 2010, 09:59:24 AM »
Most people aren't. (No matter what any misanthropist <ie, half the people on this forum> will claim, most humans are simply useful.)

Well yes most people are useful ... They can be sacrificed to god of rain  :lol:

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Re: Guy throws down a dog from a bridge
« Reply #119 on: February 02, 2010, 10:08:45 AM »
A human life IS worth more than a dog's life, and 100% of all dogs are worthless shit eaters. :P

Nah... Dogs can actually do something useful unlike most of the humans ... Take a walk around the streets and you'll see what I'm talking about
If you're afraid of dogs that doesn't mean that they are worthless ...

Either way, useful or not, most humans in general still consider a human life more valuable than that of dogs.
And that's why people are not allowed to just lynch a guy who killed "just" a dog.

And saying that not all people think that "all people are shit eaters" doesn't mean that I'm on the animal cruelty guy's side.

« Last Edit: February 02, 2010, 10:12:41 AM by Radalan »
im 100% sure that if you were in front of me you wouldn't say these thing.