The Peloponnesian War: The Unofficial Add-On [Another new Poll]

[vietanh797]

small map mean its take less time to complete the mod also I think the map is quite large right now
I play Rome total war and this game's mods so it provide me good imagination about mapping
I will rest a few days then I will try to post some map I can find 

also about modding I current heath is not good and I have to go to college 6 days/week
my time table also really tight so I only have freetime at the end of week

well if I right we can bring that as a sub mod
not sure what is that mean but in my knowledge a sub mod not break the rule

[Rory_Gallagher]

I endorse this project.

[Pierce Elliot]

I've gotten 50% vote for a slightly larger map then calradia. So I'm going to stop the poll since one can assume the answer. But I will probably have another poll up soon.

[vietanh797]

I've gotten 50% vote for a slightly larger map then calradia. So I'm going to stop the poll since one can assume the answer. But I will probably have another poll up soon.

I don't get it
you will make a map slight lagger than calradia follow the poll
but what area the map will cover?
from where to where?

[Pierce Elliot]

I suggest it begin somewhere near Ambracia(Italy) end of map at Ipsus(Persia)
north is the Macedonia capital(forgot name) south is Cyrene or Crete(I not sure but are we need Babylonia?)

Sounds good, unless of course I can't scale it down without the world looking deformed.

[vietanh797]

Well if you can make the naval it will be great to have Crete and Rhodes in map
but the trouble to large map is lack of AI make them attack castle deep in enemy territory

[Pierce Elliot]

Naval battles he says  That would take a long ass time to create. But I'm sure we can still make Crete and Rhodes accesible. And yes, large maps have that problem, but there won't be a very large map. There will just be a slightly bigger map.

Which adds another idea, which is to add naval battles, as the navy was important to the greek people I believe. Of course, that is a decision to make a long time from now.

[vietanh797]

I try to merge some rome total war map to bring a view to our map area t to think how it will look make me excited
well we will add more citry for sure but it still make me fell hot blood flow to my cold head

[Lord Loran]

I'm not sure how you want the names set up and where you want me to put them. Ive found allot of names on wiki for the Greeks names(there are also allot more than just generals that i think would work for companions... i also don't know if we should go for people who where in the peloponnesian war or of just Greeks who we want to honor in the sub-mod.).
oh and here's where they are if you want to look at them,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Ancient_Greek_generals

Edit: I LOVE the map......

[maverick47]

The map, should be smaller first thing.
2nd, we can't bother ourselves with names i think, we should just imaginate derivations of actually existing names. If people want good and historic accurate names, give them, if not just wait lynores, i always thought people stayed a long time thinking about names for their mod, but thats not important at all if the mod is fun. (i'll be searching some and i'll be posting them)
3rd: that rome total war map seems kickass!, i think we should work with it, and a bit more the northern part of italy, so we can pass by foot from italy to greece. This map is very good, cuz, if the sise is very big, it doesn't mather, because its plenty of cities.
4th: naval battles is a good idea, but the mod will have some months more of work, i think we should wait till its ("finished") and then see if we can add some naval batlles                                                                                                                  ·
5th... hmmmm this map just made me take the roman total war 2 disc and start playing : D--- -- -|
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[vietanh797]

sorry if my RTW map not satisfy you guys
I will try to find another one but better look

3rd: that rome total war map seems kickass!, i think we should work with it, and a bit more the northern part of italy, so we can pass by foot from italy to greece. This map is very good, cuz, if the sise is very big, it doesn't mather, because its plenty of cities.

I think it is not historical accuracy
normally the northern(Venice land today) is dangerous because the barbarian and Illyrian


p/s: so this will be the land map cover

[Dimitris213]

First of all CONGRATULATIONS for starting this.
Especially u EBIN , i bet Pelloponesian War fans will love you for "unofficialy" adding thing to this glorious mod...

Now if i can help with some ideas...unfortunately i have NO modding experiance , but i am eager to help with any other way.
So if u let me add some notes:

1. Current T.P.W  has 5 Factions , Athens , Sparta , Thebes (Boiotia) , Thrace , and Scythes if i remember well? So we dont need Roman provinces at all...If any of u ever played SPARTAN , then i believe this is exactly the map you need :

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2. I would be extremely great , if u could add / rename some of the faction...Lynores had in mind anyway to add some factions..
So this could be Persians Cretans Macedonians etc...Well if not , then adding some infantry to Skythes makes them very close to Persians.

3. About City , Leader , Unit names , i can really help , i can even give you the Greeklish names of them. But anyway this is something even a non-modder can do in units.txt , and since Lynores already gave names to units , we better dont mess with it.

4. As i saw , many ppl , used really huge map , with roman , cretan , persian etc provinces....You think adding Romans as invaders (at 146 b.c ) would make mod more fun?
 

[vietanh797]

at that time Roman still be considered as barbarian

Syracuse ppl also join the war (correct me if I wrong here)
and in my map it look like the war also happen there

[Pierce Elliot]

That was ******** amazing Vietanh797. That last map you just sent me was perfect.  I'm just staring at it in awe of all of the ideas it just gave me. I just still don't know what to do with the Scythians. But I'm definitely going to add "Lesbos" as a village just because of my immaturity.  Also, still props for you Vietanh for thinking of the Rome Total War map as a guide. Which is perfect cause it's a 3D topographical map.

As for how I wish to release this mod. First off I need to get a basic map finished. Maybe not even all of the cities names, but once the basic is done, I will release it as a "Patch" cause I"m foggy on the details of how to do that. So, I would like to release the "Patch" as a test so that I know I"m doing it right, and with just one map there wouldn't be as much to fix as an entire mod would be if the "Patch" was fucked up.

[muiehaha]

Man, this is a big project of yours..i respect that..so if it is a big project, should be a big map, not a huge overwhelming map, but a big one, at least twice than original map is. And I assure you that once you release the mod, theres not gonna be no mount and blade..it's gonna be TPW, because my friend, this is a NEW game. Appreciate ur guys work. Btw, VIETANH797's map fits just perfectly. a lot of work to do but it worth it.