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Re: Demonplate Armor
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2009, 10:53:04 PM »
How many do actually prefer the netherworld charger over the noldor spirit horse?

I like the Noldor Spirit Horse better, because it's quick, but also sufficently armored. The Netherworld Charger has much more hit points, but is too slow for my taste. I'd rather outride any danger and look out not to gallop into any couched lances with the Noldor Spirit Horse. Due to it's hitpoints the Charger might still be alive after a hard battle, but due to it's slowness I might not...

Second, and probably harder to answer: Why does the Spirited noldor spirit horse have different graphics/skin from the "ordinary" spirit horse? (I might add I think the "ordinary" looks better)

The "ordinary spirit horse looks like the horse used by Noldor Nobles, the spirited version is here:
[picture in previous post]

Urrg. The Spirited Spirit Horse looks like a Courser. Just ... white. Boring. Also it doesn't seem that much better then the regular Spirit Horse.

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Re: Demonplate Armor
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2009, 11:07:30 PM »
HSecond, and probably harder to answer: Why does the Spirited noldor spirit horse have different graphics/skin from the "ordinary" spirit horse? (I might add I think the "ordinary" looks better)

The "ordinary spirit horse looks like the horse used by Noldor Nobles, the spirited version is here:

PS: Sorry, I haven't figured out how to link so the picture shows directly here.

just use the item editor to correct this fault. the second mesh is faulty (cruser, correct is  aqs_horse5). is there no testing of the mod?
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Re: Demonplate Armor
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2009, 12:24:55 AM »
is there no testing of the mod?
Seriously, these devs... how dare they make a mistake in one of the hundreds of new items made for a totally free mod? Bastards...

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Re: Demonplate Armor
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2009, 10:35:08 AM »
This got sigged!

Did it ever occur in your mind noone looted a Spirited Spirt Noldor Horse during all the beta testing? If you get something out of it, checkout all items and proof them. Happy hunting.

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Re: Demonplate Armor
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2009, 08:58:07 PM »
An interesting observation I just made a few days ago..

First some background:
All horses have "modifiers" as determined by Native code.  They are Lame, Stubborn, Spirited, Heavy and Champion.  Each Modifier changes a few stats and appends the name to "Lame", "Spirited", etc.

The same modifier concept applies for all armor, weapons etc. 

Regarding the Horses:

I noticed that many of these horses when shown in smaller non-battlefield windows appear different.  I was playing another mod from a developer I admire, and I noticed this when I was searching for that companion that was riding a specific spirited "pinto" type horse.. and I could not find it..they all looked like black saddle horses.  When I opened up the companions however and searched through one at a time, I could clearly see the correctly colored  horse.

I have not tested this.. but it appears that there may be some issue here.

just use the item editor to correct this fault. the second mesh is faulty (cruser, correct is  aqs_horse5). is there no testing of the mod?

Are you being serious?

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Re: Demonplate Armor
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2009, 09:08:17 PM »
An interesting observation I just made a few days ago..

First some background:
All horses have "modifiers" as determined by Native code.  They are Lame, Stubborn, Spirited, Heavy and Champion.  Each Modifier changes a few stats and appends the name to "Lame", "Spirited", etc.

The same modifier concept applies for all armor, weapons etc. 

Regarding the Horses:

I noticed that many of these horses when shown in smaller non-battlefield windows appear different.  I was playing another mod from a developer I admire, and I noticed this when I was searching for that companion that was riding a specific spirited "pinto" type horse.. and I could not find it..they all looked like black saddle horses.  When I opened up the companions however and searched through one at a time, I could clearly see the correctly colored  horse.

I have not tested this.. but it appears that there may be some issue here.

just use the item editor to correct this fault. the second mesh is faulty (cruser, correct is  aqs_horse5). is there no testing of the mod?

Are you being serious?

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Saxondragon

In this case at least, it's not only in the non-battlefield window, it's the same on the battlefield. But my favorite horse anyway ;)
And thank you for a great mod.

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Re: Demonplate Armor
« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2009, 04:01:23 PM »
Does anyone know the location of the modifier for chances of items being dropped after a battle into the equipment pool?

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Re: Demonplate Armor
« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2009, 05:17:49 PM »
Does anyone know the location of the modifier for chances of items being dropped after a battle into the equipment pool?

The looting system takes into account your looting skill, the comparative size of your army vs. the other army, and whatever pieces of equipment aren't being worn by the army.

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Re: Demonplate Armor
« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2009, 06:15:18 PM »
If you want to add it in yourself,
Open:   item_kinds1
Search: Demonplate_Armor

 itm_pl_451 Demonplate_Armor Demonplate_Armor 1  aqs_plate_armor2 0  16777229 0 5338 704643236 27.000000 1 0 75 37 73 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0

The red (1) represents the likelihood the item will turn up in the shops. I changed it to 30.
The blue (73) represents the requirements to use the item (strength). I changed it to 12.

This is mine:
 itm_pl_451 Demonplate_Armor Demonplate_Armor 1  aqs_plate_armor2 0  16777229 0 5338 704643236 27.000000 30 0 75 37 12 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0


Does this work for savegames, or does one have to start a new game?

May the gods forgive me but im tired of searching for that pendor plate nooser is using...

Edit: I obviously did something wrong as 160K worth with 22 Body armor Lordly Gauntlets shown up in every shop in the game
« Last Edit: August 27, 2009, 06:55:17 PM by Sir Siegfried »

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Re: Demonplate Armor
« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2009, 07:18:12 PM »
So by your description:


 itm_pl_402 Pendor_Kings_Helm Pendor_Kings_Helm 1  crown_helm_mail 0  1073741836 0 1885 704643238 2.750000 100 51 0 0 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

51 is the chance that the kings helm will show up in shops?

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Re: Demonplate Armor
« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2009, 01:39:04 AM »
So by your description:


 itm_pl_402 Pendor_Kings_Helm Pendor_Kings_Helm 1  crown_helm_mail 0  1073741836 0 1885 704643238 2.750000 100 51 0 0 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

51 is the chance that the kings helm will show up in shops?
no 51 is the head armor value of the Pendor Kings Helm. 100 would be the chance i think...?

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Re: Demonplate Armor
« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2009, 08:23:05 AM »
There is no chance value. There is abundance,which is 100 in most of the items which are bound to appear in shops.

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Re: Demonplate Armor
« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2009, 09:34:41 AM »
Right... by chance I meant abundance, was thinking chance to appear in shops... but you are correct.

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Re: Demonplate Armor
« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2009, 05:48:31 PM »
and 100 abundance doesnt mean it'll always be there. Abundance values are just relative values use for calculating the randomness of what shows up.

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Re: Demonplate Armor
« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2009, 09:28:11 PM »
Can you change to wear you can make Shadow Legion Armor in the Merchants?
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