Modding Q&A [For Quick Questions and Answers]

Dusk Voyager · Oct 25, 2014

(assign, ":lb", [first party]),
(assign, ":ub", [last party]),
(try_for_range, ":iteration", ":lb", ":ub"),
(is_between, ":iteration", ":lb", ":ub"), # to coax the MS into accepting the code
(store_random_in_range, ":center_smaller_than_town", ":lb", ":ub",
(this_or_next|party_slot_eq, ":center_smaller_than_town", slot_party_type, spt_village),
(party_slot_eq, ":center_smaller_than_town", slot_party_type, spt_castle),
[do your stuff]
(assign, ":ub", ":lb"), # to break the loop when you're finished
(try_end),

Fire_and_Blood · Oct 25, 2014

Thank you. That code really helps.

Just a quick question:
Theoretically, it would be possible, that the random fief is never spt_castle or spt_village. Would it not make more sense to use different lower and upper bounds for the try_for_range and random_store_in_range in order to get more tries to reduce the risk of the code not returning a valid fief?

(assign, ":lb", 0),
(assign, ":ub", 10000),
(try_for_range, ":iteration", ":lb", ":ub"),
(is_between, ":iteration", ":lb", ":ub"), # to coax the MS into accepting the code
(store_random_in_range, ":center_smaller_than_town", [first party], [last party]),
(this_or_next|party_slot_eq, ":center_smaller_than_town", slot_party_type, spt_village),
(party_slot_eq, ":center_smaller_than_town", slot_party_type, spt_castle),
[do your stuff]
(assign, ":ub", ":lb"), # to break the loop when you're finished
(try_end),

Dusk Voyager · Oct 25, 2014

Can be done. Or if you want to be precise, you can also write a recursive script like this to call in the appropriate block:

("get_random_settlement_smaller_than_town",
[
(store_random_in_range, ":center_smaller_than_town", [first party], [last party]),
(try_begin),
(this_or_next|party_slot_eq, ":center_smaller_than_town", slot_party_type, spt_village),
(party_slot_eq, ":center_smaller_than_town", slot_party_type, spt_castle),
(assign, reg1, ":center_smaller_than_town"),
(else_try),
(call_script, "script_get_random_settlement_smaller_than_town"),
(try_end),
]),

Lumos · Oct 25, 2014

Masterancza said:
Can I change the ammo for one item? For example- one pistol in game will be use bolts as ammo. Is It possible?

In short, no.
A longer answer would be "not really". In practice, you can make a crossbow which looks like a pistol, and which probably acts like a pistol. But it won't really be a pistol.

Antonis · Oct 25, 2014

Hi guys, a question:
Is it possible to reduce the speed of a map icons's movement. I don't mean the travelling speed, but the speed of how they move their legs. Some of my new map icons are going normally, but in some others the feet are going like they're running for 100M sprint. Again, the map travelling speed is perfectly fine, it's the animation that has the issue. Thanks!

Fire_and_Blood · Oct 25, 2014

Can slots overflow and lose information?

At the top of ("game_start"[, I've added a part, which assigns spt_village to villages, spt_castle to castles and spt_town to towns:

(try_for_range, ":village", "p_village_1", "p_salt_mine"),
(party_set_slot, ":village", slot_party_type, spt_village),
(try_end),
(try_for_range, ":castle", "p_castle_1", "p_village_1"),
(party_set_slot, ":castle", slot_party_type, spt_castle),
(try_end),
(try_for_range, ":town", "p_town_1", "p_castle_1"),
(party_set_slot, ":town", slot_party_type, spt_town),
(try_end),

However, some villages, such as village_43&village_87, get assigned as towns

.
When I added extra lines to specifically set those villages as spt_village, some other villages would get assigned as towns.

The spoiler part is the only line in the whole ms, which uses (party_set_slot, "...", slot_party_type, spt_town).

Somebody · Oct 25, 2014

Antonis said:
Hi guys, a question:
Is it possible to reduce the speed of a map icons's movement. I don't mean the travelling speed, but the speed of how they move their legs. Some of my new map icons are going normally, but in some others the feet are going like they're running for 100M sprint. Again, the map travelling speed is perfectly fine, it's the animation that has the issue. Thanks!

Check the frame timing?

Fire_and_Blood said:
Can slots overflow and lose information?

Why did you get rid of the Native party type assignment? Are all those villages in the village range proper?

Fire_and_Blood · Oct 25, 2014

Somebody said:
Why did you get rid of the Native party type assignment? Are all those villages in the village range proper?

Mostly because it's static. If town_2 get's converted to a village, it would still lie within the constants "towns_begin, towns_end", which wouldn't make any sense, since it's not supposed to be a town anymore. The only other way would be to shift all towns when one of them get's disabled, so town_2 moves to town_3, town_3 moves to town_4 and then define towns_end with a global variable, but that's ridiculous to code.

The village range should be fine, I haven't touched towns, castles or villages, so it's still:

town_1
...
town_22
castle_1
...
castle_48
village_1
...
village_110
salt_mine

Dusk Voyager · Oct 25, 2014

Strange that all slots are correctly assigned other than some villages (the last center type handled first) turning into towns (the first center type handled last). Maybe including some troops above/below the centers to give them two additional dummy party "types" can do the trick.

Lav · Oct 25, 2014

Fire_and_Blood said:
Mostly because it's static. If town_2 get's converted to a village, it would still lie within the constants "towns_begin, towns_end", which wouldn't make any sense, since it's not supposed to be a town anymore. The only other way would be to shift all towns when one of them get's disabled, so town_2 moves to town_3, town_3 moves to town_4 and then define towns_end with a global variable, but that's ridiculous to code.

Or just replace all instances of range-checking in the module code with checking for slots. This will require lots of changes, but may prove it's worth in the long run.

Fire_and_Blood · Oct 25, 2014

Lav said:
Or just replace all instances of range-checking in the module code with checking for slots. This will require lots of changes, but may prove it's worth in the long run.

That's what I've done and what's causing this issue. And yes, it's lot's of changes :cry:

Adding dummy parties below the last town and below the last castle didn't change anything.

I've also tried running a slightly delayed trigger, which reassigns slot_party_type,spt_village to all villages. Right after that trigger fires, all villages are actually villages. But a few days later, some of them are counting as towns again.

I was gonna make a small mod and name it "Dynamic World", but the code to upgrade villages to towns isn't even implemented yet.

Dusk Voyager · Oct 25, 2014

Adding dummy parties below the last town and below the last castle didn't change anything.

Sorry, I meant you could add some placeholder parties above towns with a dummy party type value (say, -2) and likewise, below villages with another dummy type (-1). Start from the latter and finish with the former placeholders when setting slots.

PS. or why not just write three new templates representing towns, castles and villages to add to parties like a slot?

cwr · Oct 26, 2014

How do I set an interactive item, and where do I put the code afterwards with what happens when the item is interacted with?

Antonis · Oct 26, 2014

Somebody said:
Check the frame timing?

Thanks man, that solved it. Probably too stupid of me not to look.

Jezze · Oct 26, 2014

The Dark Robin said:
How do I set an interactive item, and where do I put the code afterwards with what happens when the item is interacted with?

Do you want to do this in single-player or in multi-player?

Assuming you want to have it in a scene, you place it as a scene-prop. The events are called when interacting with the scene-prop. In the block of ti_on_scene_prop_use you can add the item in question to the player's inventory.

Code:

 ("your_scene_prop",spr_use_time(2),"obj_of_the_prop","bo_obj_of_the_prop", [

   (ti_on_init_scene_prop,
    [
      (store_trigger_param_1, ":instance_no"),
      ...
    ]),
     
   (ti_on_scene_prop_use,
    [
      (store_trigger_param_1, ":instance_no"),
      ...
    ]),    

  ]),

And do not forget to change this in your module.ini: can_use_scene_props_in_single_player = 1

cwr · Oct 26, 2014

Its multiplayer, and thank you I will try that as a start.

Is instance_no the player that uses it?

Ikaguia · Oct 26, 2014

Code:

ti_on_scene_prop_use     = -44.0 #can only be used in module_scene_props triggers
# Trigger Param 1: user agent id
# Trigger Param 2: prop instance number

Does anyone know what does this error means?

Code:

Starting new log file.
 Version:  1.158 
 
 Processing Ini File {
 Module_name =  Calradia 
 Num Hints =  12 
 Setting Map Min X =  -180.000000 
 Setting Map Max X =  180.000000 
 Setting Map Min Y =  -145.000000 
 Setting Map Max Y =  145.000000 
 Setting Time Multiplier =  0.250000 
 Setting Seeing Range Multiplier =  6.500000 
 Setting Track Spotting Multiplier =  0.800000 
 Setting player_wounded_treshold =  5.000000 
 Setting hero_wounded_treshold =  15.000000 
 Setting Skill Prisoner Management Bonus =  5 
 Setting Skill Leadership Bonus =  3 
 Setting Base Companion Limit =  20 
 Setting player_xp_multiplier =  2.000000 
 Setting hero_xp_multiplier =  2.000000 
 Setting regulars_xp_multiplier =  3.000000 
 Setting damage_interrupt_attack_treshold =  3.000000 
 Setting damage_interrupt_attack_treshold_mp =  1.000000 
 Setting armor_soak_factor_against_cut =  0.800000 
 Setting armor_soak_factor_against_pierce =  0.650000 
 Setting armor_soak_factor_against_blunt =  0.500000 
 Setting armor_reduction_factor_against_cut =  1.000000 
 Setting armor_reduction_factor_against_pierce =  0.500000 
 Setting armor_reduction_factor_against_blunt =  0.750000 
 Setting horse_charge_damage_multiplier =  1.000000 
 Setting couched_lance_damage_multiplier =  0.650000 
 Setting fall_damage_multiplier =  1.000000 
 Setting shield_penetration_offset =  30.000000 
 Setting shield_penetration_factor =  3.000000 
 Setting missile_damage_speed_power =  1.900000 
 Setting melee_damage_speed_power =  2.000000 
 Setting multiplayer_walk_enabled =  0 
 Setting mission_object_prune_time =  180 
 Scan Module Textures =  1 
 Scan Module Sounds =  0 
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} //Processing Ini File Finished
 WARNING: UNABLE TO MAP SOUND CODE:  snd_release_crossbow_medium 
 WARNING: UNABLE TO MAP SOUND CODE:  snd_release_crossbow_far 
 WARNING: UNABLE TO MAP SOUND CODE:  snd_bullet_hit_body 
 WARNING: UNABLE TO MAP SOUND CODE:  snd_player_hit_by_bullet 
 WARNING: UNABLE TO MAP GAME SCRIPT CODE:  game_check_party_sees_party 
 WARNING: UNABLE TO MAP GAME SCRIPT CODE:  game_get_party_speed_multiplier 
 WARNING: UNABLE TO MAP GAME SCRIPT CODE:  game_missile_launch 
 WARNING: UNABLE TO MAP GAME SCRIPT CODE:  game_missile_dives_into_water 
 Loading Module...
 Loading item kinds...
 Loading dialogs...
 Loading mission templates...
 Loading party templates...
 Exiting physics manager...  OK!
 Exiting network manager...  OK!
 Deleting resources...  Exiting physics manager...  OK!

whevener the dedicated server finished initializing it crashes and the rlg_log is just that. Normal native is working fine

And now it's working fine for no reason... wtf

Fire_and_Blood · Oct 26, 2014

Is the position of bridges in module_parties hardcoded?

There doesn't seem to be a constant which defines their position in module_parties, but when I move them further up, they don't show up ingame anymore.

Ikaguia · Oct 26, 2014

No their position isn't hardcoded but the position over which you can pass trought rivers is set on map.txt

HyperCharge · Oct 26, 2014

When i opened the battle map,this opcode error is coming :S

i wanna to give code of battle presentation.But its too long.passing the character limit..

Im opening the game with WSE.

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