Author Topic: Racism (Read 18802 times)

Graylord · « **on:** May 14, 2009, 07:49:15 PM »

I am not a racist, i don't care where people are from and how they look, however i hate people who use it as an excuse to do whatever they want or put the blame on others.

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"I hate you!"
"I hate you too!"
"Is it because i'm black? Racist!"

And thus I'm generally careful when around people i don't know who might be one of those.
In other words, yes, I tend to avoid black people. Does that actually make me a racist?

I also find it odd with those who refuse to learn the language of the country they live in, even if they've had years.
For instance, one in my class was born and raised here in Norway, yet he talks as he moved here half a year ago.

What do you think?

Yeomann · « **Reply #1 on:** May 14, 2009, 07:51:48 PM »

Quote from: Sheriff-murder on May 14, 2009, 07:49:15 PM

And thus I'm generally careful when around people i don't know who might be one of those, does that actually make me a racist?

No.
Where did you see this anyway?
Did it just come up in your head?

Graylord · « **Reply #2 on:** May 14, 2009, 07:54:29 PM »

I've seen it plenty of times and another incident happened lately.
I don't know how it's other places, but where i live they are (or at least was) a small minority and the government does everything they can to protect them, but too much, they can pretty much just point at you and you are already arrested.

Gamemako · « **Reply #3 on:** May 14, 2009, 07:59:35 PM »

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Now, that's just way too long. -okiN

Archonsod · « **Reply #4 on:** May 14, 2009, 08:03:17 PM »

The trick is to reply to the exchange with "yes, actually" and then headbutt the ******.

Assault the cops for good measure. Then simply point out to the judge that since you indiscriminately attack people regardless of race, you cannot in fact be racist. Instead, you are a misanthropic sociopath with an equal opportunity policy towards violence, and would perhaps the wig wearing **** care for his go.

Generally works.*

* in terms of not being accused of racism. Other charges may be brought against you however, but relax, as a mentally ill prisoner they send you on holidays and give you all the drugs you can ask for.

Blodheafodban · « **Reply #5 on:** May 14, 2009, 08:12:37 PM »

Yeah, I'm tired of people throwing those words around, they should read the definitions, racism is a set of beliefs based around race and racial superiority, and it's a pretty far stretch to say that if someone makes fun of a breed or culture of mankind that they believe in race and racial superiority.

uncreative · « **Reply #6 on:** May 14, 2009, 08:25:04 PM »

The definitions are pretty vague and hardly universal. I believe my lexicon defines racism as "hate against people of other ethnic origins" or similar, while wikipedia defines it as the belief of any inherent difference in human value based on race. Personally, I think myself racist. Beyond getting increasingly paranoid about the rumoured future "muslim Europe", which I believe is pretty heavily backed up by statistics, I also am of the opinion that people with a healthy self-image tend to prefer people as similar to themselves as possible. I also hate the fat, black bitch who always 'almost' crashes into me when I walk the streets, daring me to sidestep. I swear one day I'll just push her into the ground. Okay got a little expressive there.. What is the off-topic forum for..

Swadius · « **Reply #7 on:** May 14, 2009, 09:39:47 PM »

I'm far worse, I'm a speciest!

Pharaoh Llandy · « **Reply #8 on:** May 14, 2009, 09:51:12 PM »

Quote from: Sheriff-murder on May 14, 2009, 07:49:15 PM

What do you think?

I dislike everybody, regardless of race, sexual orientation, or job description.

Except professional footballers. I hate them more.

Bloody nancies.

ealabor · « **Reply #9 on:** May 14, 2009, 09:54:58 PM »

Quote from: Yeomann on May 14, 2009, 07:51:48 PM

Where did you see this anyway?
Did it just come up in your head?

You could always come visit the U.S. where you'll see it kicked into high gear, if you want a prime example.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBLBo0MJEr0&feature=related

Good times.

Jhessail · « **Reply #10 on:** May 14, 2009, 09:55:12 PM »

When I was in primary school, there was an black kid who probably didn't even know what racist meant. If you had candy and didn't give one to him, he would holler out "racist, racist, racist!" So yeah, that's annoying.

Archonsod · « **Reply #11 on:** May 14, 2009, 11:18:31 PM »

Quote from: uncreative on May 14, 2009, 08:25:04 PM

The definitions are pretty vague and hardly universal.

No they're not. From the dictionary:

Racism
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

The definition is quite straightforward. Any judgement of value towards an individual based on their ethnicity is racism. It's the misapplication of the term by various people, groups and ideologies that confuse the issue. Hating a black person for being black is racist, hating someone for being a twat who just happens to be black is not racist.

Religion is another misapplication. Hating Muslims for being Muslims is religious discrimination, not racism. Last time I checked there were Muslims of every ethnicity.

Angelus Lapsus Revan · « **Reply #12 on:** May 15, 2009, 12:01:20 AM »

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"I hate you!"
"I hate you too!"
"Is it because i'm black? Racist!"

I understand this, people at my school do this alot, really their the racist. I feel your pain

ealabor · « **Reply #13 on:** May 15, 2009, 01:08:03 AM »

Quote from: Archonsod on May 14, 2009, 11:18:31 PM

Quote from: uncreative on May 14, 2009, 08:25:04 PM
The definitions are pretty vague and hardly universal.
No they're not. From the dictionary:

The term "Racism" isn't the controversy he speaks of, but rather the term "Race". The definition of racism is only as correct as the term race itself in this manner.

Quote from: Wikipedia

The term race or racial group usually refers to the categorization of humans into populations or groups on the basis of various sets of heritable characteristics. The most widely used human racial categories are based on salient traits (especially skin color, cranial or facial features and hair texture), and self-identification.

Conceptions of race, as well as specific ways of grouping races, vary by culture and over time, and are often controversial for scientific as well as social and political reasons. The controversy ultimately revolves around whether or not the concept of race is biologically warranted; the ways in which political correctness might fuel either the affirmation or the denial of race; and the degree to which perceived differences in ability and achievement, categorized on the basis of race, are a product of inherited (i.e., genetic) traits or environmental, social and cultural factors.

Some argue that although race is a valid taxonomic concept in other species, it cannot be applied to humans. Many scientists have argued that race definitions are imprecise, arbitrary, derived from custom, have many exceptions, have many gradations, and that the numbers of races delineated vary according to the culture making the racial distinctions; thus they reject the notion that any definition of race pertaining to humans can have taxonomic rigour and validity. Today many scientists study human genotypic and phenotypic variation using concepts such as "population" and "clinal gradation". Many contend that while racial categorizations may be marked by phenotypic or genotypic traits, the idea of race itself, and actual divisions of persons into races or racial groups, are social constructs. However, the concept of race may be useful in forensic anthropology. According to forensic anthropologist George W. Gill, "race denial" not only contradicts biological evidence, but may stem from "politically motivated censorship" in the belief that "race promotes racism".

For us to try and break down our species into separate races is indeed controversial.

I guess there is the terming "Caucasoid", "Africanoid", "Mongoloid" which may be as good as it gets, but that still leaves our species disenfranchised for many types of peoples such as Indians for example.

As the wiki mentions, most of race classifications are social constructs and really have no place relevant to the term, and certainly not with science.

A good example is the race classification here in the States "African American" which is used to describe black people in many profile cases. Now, obviously this is inaccurate because the majority of black people termed with this have in fact not lived in Africa. Compounding this is also the fact that not all people from Africa are black, so that would be an incorrect classification.

Its mostly social and political and really has no grounds in science or logic at all.

********, and regardless how you spin our inception, be it creation, or evolution, we came from one people.. so it's really ignorant to go around branding someone a racist when we have common origins.

Swadius · « **Reply #14 on:** May 15, 2009, 01:09:39 AM »

Does Caucasian come from the region the Caucasus mountains?

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