[DESCRIPTION]SWORD OF DAMOCLES - GOLD - V4.5 BETA Bugfix Released!

[froggyluv]

 I don't use tactics probably just because they don't come naturally to me but I think its fine to add for people who like it. As far as morale I would vote against it as it just doesn't feel right. Too often, enemies break too early and then it just becomes tedious rather than engrossing. I would love to see it tweaked and for the enemy to have the chance to rally etc...

[Calodine]

I'd waita few days and ask Jinnai from Native expansion how he did it. He be planning on making tactics and leadership affect chance to rout.

[suggestor]

great mod! totally fun.

i was thinking that perhaps putting in the morale system thats floating around most of the mods today would make things a little interesting.

then again... when battling the imperials the player's side morale would quickly decrease and lead to defeat.

I was seriously considering Morale. And also i thought about Battlefield Tactics. But while i didn't test this features myself, and while they seem to be really great there are serious arguments against that.

As to Morale i red that it overpowers horses (that would be realistic if horsemans be much more rare, but they are not)
Also i red that morale makes hunting down remaining opponents real pain, especially Khaegrits.
I think Morale would be nice idea if enemies could really escape the battle as a player can.

As to Battlefield Tactics it sounds awesome but i red that it lowers performance greatly (i tested it just a little bit and didn't notice that myself though).
People report that AI can't use formations properly, dismounts cavalry and makes other stupid things.
Also seems like great idea that needs finishing.

I think that battles are real fun even without this additional features and while they add great stuff to the game they can also be irritating.

But as I said i didn't test it myself. I'm just citing other peoples opinions. I might be persuaded otherwise. So I ask you all...

Should I add Morale and/or Battlefield Tactics? And why?

I believe that you should add in both.

For morale:
1)Given the huge Imperial expeditionary force and the massive amount of units they bring, it starts a gamble. It's either win big against the Imperials, or lose big. Plus with morale, in theory its easier to win, since all you would need to do is bring archers and hopefully kill enough of them for them to break.

2) I guess it adds realism... And the khergits... well just don't fight them ha ha.

For Battlefield tactics:
Not entirely sure, I'd certainly like it, but this is your mod and if you think its too buggy...

[neumatics78]

For some reason my nordic culture empire lords keep filling up their castles and parties with rhodok troops

[Don Doggy]

My vassals won't join me in battles or sieges and it seems that they won't garrison troops in their castles in Sword of Damocles.

[Rams]

Omg this is impossible!
The invasion has like 60 armys!!!!
And i have like 100 troops with 15 of them dieing after each battle.
Is there some kind of way i could recruit more men?
Thx

[Rams]

PS: I know you can recruit men in tarves talking to the keeper.
And the bandit bribe.

[vonmistont]

For some reason my nordic culture empire lords keep filling up their castles and parties with rhodok troops

It's working fine for me. Maybe just set it once again?

My vassals won't join me in battles or sieges and it seems that they won't garrison troops in their castles in Sword of Damocles.

Well, if they didn't join maybe they were too far. And they do garrison troops in castles. Order them to go to their castle and stay there for some time maybe?

Omg this is impossible!
The invasion has like 60 armys!!!!
And i have like 100 troops with 15 of them dieing after each battle.
Is there some kind of way i could recruit more men?
Thx
PS: I know you can recruit men in tarves talking to the keeper.
And the bandit bribe.

Well. When you create own kingdom you can hire 1 lord for each castle or town. Maximum is 20. First lords are weak but then you get better and better. They are: 5 Knights, 5 Baronets, 4 Barons, 3 Earls and 3 Dukes.
Also you can form patrols of course... Talk to your soldiers and order them to form a patrol, this way you can even have 100 000 army if you have enough money

EDIT:
P.S.
suggestor's suggestions seem convincing The thing that Taimat396 mentioned also seems interesting. But more discussion is needed i think, and if i add it i think i will make it optional.
Also i would like to hear more opinions about Tactics.

[Deathknight13]

Morale might be good. But other mods who have it I can't help but think that the horses are really tedious to track down and kill. Although that is fun when you have a bunch of archers, it can get old really fast when all infantry. Or even just mostly infantry.

The tactics could be good, but the mod doesn't require it or anything. It's mainly fine how it is, but do whatever you want.

[Don Doggy]

No-one accepts peace with me. They say that I'm a Kingdomless lord eventhough I have my own kingdom.

[vonmistont]

No-one accepts peace with me. They say that I'm a Kingdomless lord eventhough I have my own kingdom.

They will propose peace to you eventually. Diplomacy is not included. Though you can bribe them.

[G jungle]

Awsome mod! i'm new to M&B but its the best mod I've played so far.

There is just one feature that bothers me a bit, the computer battles are waaay too fast! Is there any way I can change that?

[vonmistont]

Awsome mod! i'm new to M&B but its the best mod I've played so far.

There is just one feature that bothers me a bit, the computer battles are waaay too fast! Is there any way I can change that?

And I'm glad you like this mod. Thanks for kind words.

You are second person asking for that change. So i will soon add customization guide for that.

Tthis feature is one of my favourite though. It adds more dynamism to play in my opinion. Makes computer vs computer battles a lot more like player vs computer battles. It just makes computer AI better, cause he wastes less time on that battles. No longer you will see AI assoulting castle walls for one week (assaulting not besieging). Or imagine situation where powerfull lord attacks weak caravan. And then fights for three days... One of the greatest medieval battles, battle of Grunwald (Tannenberg) where almost 70 000 people fought took less than one day... AI vs AI battle time in native is just hilarious in my opinion. One day max for a battle is just enough i think... I saw 9000 people attacking a castle with 200 men in it. Assault still took almost whole day, and that was with my changes on! Human can take 3 castles in one day. So although i will add option to change it back i strongly dicourage to do that.

Cheers

[ujirik]

The game won't properly create a lord.  If I select to create a lord, it says it created one, but the lord doesn't show up in game.  If I try to give a fief to a Lord, it just gives some error message saying invalid target then converts the fief to neutral faction.  Do you know why it won't create lords?

[G jungle]

I agree with you, and I had almost no trouble with the feature until some lords decided to siege my castle. I couldn't get into the castle while they were sieging, so I waited outside. I camped until they attacked, but they finished attacking before I could get to the battle, it all happened too fast.

I don't want to change it back to native's speed. Just want to speed it down a little bit.