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« Reply #825 on: November 25, 2008, 05:53:00 PM »
Is there a tweak to get better loot from battles, especially Lord's stuff? I couldn't find an answer with search, apologies if this has been answered.
It's frustrating, you can knock out four or so Lords in a battle in Native, thinking 'loads of cool stuff, I like that armour' etc, then you get a few crap swords and shields when it comes down to it.
I've tweaked the chances of capturing Lords with MageLords excellent guides, so many thanks.
Just fancy that winged helmet, sure I've earned it, hehe

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i dunno if i have the authority to post here, but here goes

for those randoms (like me) who wish to randomly duel lords without the relationship lost (i.e a friendly contest)

find this in conversation.txt:

dlga_lord_talk_ask_something_2:lord_tell_objective 69631 257  0 What_are_you_and_your_men_doing?  259  0

and on the line directly below, (it doesnt have to be, but for safety's sake), paste this

dlga_lord_talk_ask_something_2:lord_talk_ask_about_war 69631 257  1 2147484208 3 144115188075855885 8 0 Care_to_duel?  6  26 1 3 936748722493063319 144115188075855885 -0 2133 2 144115188075855899 1 4 0 33 3 144115188075856110 648518346341351443 648518346341351461 521 3 1224979098644774912 144115188075856110 16 5 0 2133 2 1224979098644774913 100000 2133 2 1224979098644774914 -1 6 3 1224979098644774915 648518346341351443 648518346341351461 2281 3 1224979098644774916 1224979098644774915 648518346341351424 2147483678 2 1224979098644774916 1224979098644774913 2133 2 1224979098644774913 1224979098644774916 2133 2 1224979098644774914 1224979098644774915 3 0 521 3 1224979098644774912 1224979098644774914 16 3 0 1261 1 1224979098644774912 1262 0 1263 2 0 360287970189639680 1263 2 1 144115188075855885 1911 1 792633534417207321 1910 1 1224979098644774912 4 0 2147483679 2 144115188075856039 1 2060 1 864691128455135264 3 0

after you pasted it, it should look like this:

dlga_lord_talk_ask_something_2:lord_tell_objective 69631 257  0 What_are_you_and_your_men_doing?  259  0
dlga_lord_talk_ask_something_2:lord_talk_ask_about_war 69631 257  1 2147484208 3 144115188075855885 8 0 Care_to_duel?  6  26 1 3 936748722493063319 144115188075855885 -0 2133 2 144115188075855899 1 4 0 33 3 144115188075856110 648518346341351443 648518346341351461 521 3 1224979098644774912 144115188075856110 16 5 0 2133 2 1224979098644774913 100000 2133 2 1224979098644774914 -1 6 3 1224979098644774915 648518346341351443 648518346341351461 2281 3 1224979098644774916 1224979098644774915 648518346341351424 2147483678 2 1224979098644774916 1224979098644774913 2133 2 1224979098644774913 1224979098644774916 2133 2 1224979098644774914 1224979098644774915 3 0 521 3 1224979098644774912 1224979098644774914 16 3 0 1261 1 1224979098644774912 1262 0 1263 2 0 360287970189639680 1263 2 1 144115188075855885 1911 1 792633534417207321 1910 1 1224979098644774912 4 0 2147483679 2 144115188075856039 1 2060 1 864691128455135264 3 0
dlga_lord_talk_ask_something_2:lord_talk_ask_about_war 69631 257  1 2147484208 3 144115188075855885 8 0 How_goes_the_war?  260  0
dlga_lord_talk_ask_something_2:lord_pretalk 69631 257  0 Never_mind.  160  0


the red is the line you search for, the blue is the line you paste in, and the green are the lines directly underneath the line you just pasted in

you can change the dialogue in brown to anything you want, it could be an insult, but thats for you to change
and the -0 in yellow is the relationship hit you get from the challenging the lord to a duel (originally -20 from the defend lady's honour quest), you can give yourself a relationship hit if you like, if you intend to mock the lord.

you can challenge them to a duel (amiably or otherwise) by saying 'can i ask you something', then 'care to duel?'

keep in mind this is a very brusque tweak which is bug free (i've tried it a dozen times), but when you're done you will get a message saying you have completed the quest, but ignore that, you dont actually get an award

also, if you want to challenge claimants, that can be done too:

find this:

dlga_pretender_start:pretender_rebellion_cause_prelim 69631 142  2 540 3 144115188075855885 140 1 31 2 144115188075855915 0 What_was_your_story_again,_{reg65?my_lady:sir}?  147  0

and paste this under it:

dlga_pretender_start:pretender_rebellion_cause_prelim 69631 142  2 540 3 144115188075855885 140 1 31 2 144115188075855915 0 Care_to_duel,_{reg65?my_lady:sir}?  6  26 1 3 936748722493063319 144115188075855885 -0 2133 2 144115188075855899 1 4 0 33 3 144115188075856110 648518346341351443 648518346341351461 521 3 1224979098644774912 144115188075856110 16 5 0 2133 2 1224979098644774913 100000 2133 2 1224979098644774914 -1 6 3 1224979098644774915 648518346341351443 648518346341351461 2281 3 1224979098644774916 1224979098644774915 648518346341351424 2147483678 2 1224979098644774916 1224979098644774913 2133 2 1224979098644774913 1224979098644774916 2133 2 1224979098644774914 1224979098644774915 3 0 521 3 1224979098644774912 1224979098644774914 16 3 0 1261 1 1224979098644774912 1262 0 1263 2 0 360287970189639680 1263 2 1 144115188075855885 1911 1 792633534417207321 1910 1 1224979098644774912 4 0 2147483679 2 144115188075856039 1 2060 1 864691128455135264 3 0

result should look like this:

dlga_pretender_start:pretender_rebellion_cause_prelim 69631 142  2 540 3 144115188075855885 140 1 31 2 144115188075855915 0 What_was_your_story_again,_{reg65?my_lady:sir}?  147  0
dlga_pretender_start:pretender_rebellion_cause_prelim 69631 142  2 540 3 144115188075855885 140 1 31 2 144115188075855915 0 Care_to_duel,_{reg65?my_lady:sir}?  6  26 1 3 936748722493063319 144115188075855885 -0 2133 2 144115188075855899 1 4 0 33 3 144115188075856110 648518346341351443 648518346341351461 521 3 1224979098644774912 144115188075856110 16 5 0 2133 2 1224979098644774913 100000 2133 2 1224979098644774914 -1 6 3 1224979098644774915 648518346341351443 648518346341351461 2281 3 1224979098644774916 1224979098644774915 648518346341351424 2147483678 2 1224979098644774916 1224979098644774913 2133 2 1224979098644774913 1224979098644774916 2133 2 1224979098644774914 1224979098644774915 3 0 521 3 1224979098644774912 1224979098644774914 16 3 0 1261 1 1224979098644774912 1262 0 1263 2 0 360287970189639680 1263 2 1 144115188075855885 1911 1 792633534417207321 1910 1 1224979098644774912 4 0 2147483679 2 144115188075856039 1 2060 1 864691128455135264 3 0
« Last Edit: November 29, 2008, 11:47:26 PM by tommylaw »
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oh, great!
but do I have to increase the first number of the file? I mean, on the very top

EDIT>
I find out that I don't have to
but is there any possibility to get rid of those "quest succeded" entries in journal?
« Last Edit: November 26, 2008, 01:10:17 PM by virus_found »
cRPG characters:
Guard_Amy_Webb (heavy polearm cav/inf)
Guard_Eleith (light 2h cav/inf) - inactive

scripts.txt for cRPG without xp/gold flood http://tinyurl.com/39sc8p5 2010-08-13 16:22:42 UTC
module.ini for cRPG + Polished Landscapes http://tinyurl.com/33zsoak 2010-08-02 19:18:52 UTC
Those are probably obsolete, for I'm on holiday these days.

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there may be but i wouldnt know how, i suppose it doesnt really matter though does it?

one thing to alert though, if you lose, you will come out with low health and so will the lords if you win
« Last Edit: November 26, 2008, 05:23:10 PM by tommylaw »
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for those who wish to make peace with kingdoms when they're rebel, here it is

look for this in conversation.txt:

dlga_lord_ask_pardon:lord_pretalk.1 4095 231  7 2133 2 1224979098644774912 0 6 3 1224979098644774913 648518346341351443 648518346341351591 2204 2 1224979098644774914 1224979098644774913 31 2 1224979098644774914 432345564227567629 2133 2 1224979098644774912 1 3 0 31 2 1224979098644774912 1 {playername},_you_are_a_{lord/lady}_without_a_master,_holding_lands_in_your_name,_without_having_allegience_to_any_kingdom._As_long_as_that_continues,_no_king_in_Calradia_would_accept_a_lasting_peace_with_you.  160  0

and paste this over it (overwriting the above with this):

dlga_lord_ask_pardon:lord_pretalk.1 69631 232  2 2149 2 1224979098644774912 360287970189639680 30 2 1224979098644774912 72057594037927952 I_wish_to_make_peace_with_{s4}.  231  0

this will allow you to buy out of war with enemy factions even if you're a rebel kingdom

note there will be error messages in red on the left hand side of the screen but it does work, pay them no mind
« Last Edit: November 29, 2008, 11:48:00 PM by tommylaw »
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heres one for making peace with the faction you betrayed to become rebel king, WITHOUT rejoining them

find this in conversation.txt:

dlga_lord_talk:lord_ask_pardon_after_oath_renounced 69631 204  3 2147484208 3 144115188075855885 8 0 31 2 144115188075856074 144115188075855887 2335 2 4 144115188075855887 {s66},_I_wish_to_restore_my_old_oath_to_{s4}.  227  0

then on the line underneath, paste this:

dlga_lord_talk:lord_ask_pardon_after_oath_renounced 69631 204  3 2147484208 3 144115188075855885 8 0 31 2 144115188075856074 144115188075855887 2335 2 4 144115188075855887 I_wish_to_make_peace_with_{s4}.  231  0

so it will end up like this:

dlga_lord_talk:lord_ask_pardon_after_oath_renounced 69631 204  3 2147484208 3 144115188075855885 8 0 31 2 144115188075856074 144115188075855887 2335 2 4 144115188075855887 {s66},_I_wish_to_restore_my_old_oath_to_{s4}.  227  0
dlga_lord_talk:lord_ask_pardon_after_oath_renounced 69631 204  3 2147484208 3 144115188075855885 8 0 31 2 144115188075856074 144115188075855887 2335 2 4 144115188075855887 I_wish_to_make_peace_with_{s4}.  231  0

this will allow you to talk to any lord of the faction you betrayed and pay them tribute for peace, without restoring your oath

an error message will appear on the left hand side of the screen (the bit where kills and damage are displayed) but its nothing, this does work and is save game compatible

« Last Edit: November 29, 2008, 11:48:25 PM by tommylaw »
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Since this is a quite annoying quest and people have complained about it, i've found a way to change the rank of soldiers needed in the capture certain amount of enemy prisoners, to get lower rank soldiers (easier to nick from caravans, etc)

Have you tested this?  Because I would be quite surprised if this worked.  The type of troop is set in scripts.txt, the {s3} just refers to it.  This should work though:

Open up scripts.txt and search for 45 1 2136 3 1224979098644774988 42

The game picks a troop type from tier two to tier five.  45 refers to tier five troops, 42 refers to tier two troops.  Changing 45 to 44 and 42 to 41 will make it choose  a troop from tiers one to four instead, for example.  Adjust this as you wish.

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Here's how to change how much you get per prisoner

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game_get_prisoner_price -1
 11 21 1 1224979098644774912 2133 2 72057594037927936 50 4 0 33 3 144115188075855885 360287970189639821 360287970189639831 2171 2 1224979098644774913 1224979098644774912 2133 2 1224979098644774914 1224979098644774913 2105 2 1224979098644774914 10 2107 2 1224979098644774914 1224979098644774914 2108 2 1224979098644774914 6 3 0 2075 1 72057594037927936

Change the 50 to whatever you want and you're good to go
It's savegame compatible and works if you set it so that the inn keeper can buy prisoners
which folder is this in?or file? menus.txt / scripts.txt etc.

and I have 1.011, would it work with mine?
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I applied many tweaks listed here, and my game crashes on startup. I may be retarded and put something in wrong, but to check, are all of the tweaks 1.011 compatible? If not, I have work to do *sigh*. I put about 55 of those tweaks into a copied Native folder.
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Here's another quick and simple one.

Enabling the option to refuse to let your companions quit.

Open up conversation.txt and search for dlga_companion_quitting_response:companion_quitting_no
There's a string of numbers after this that should look like this:
69631 107  2 31 2 1 0 31 2 144115188075855903 1
Change the 0 to 1, and next time someone wants to quit you should be able to play hardball.

Lord Zed: Does it give a specific error message?  It's possible something isn't compatible with 1.011, or you may have made an error somewhere.  It's best to do things incrementally and check they work so if there are problems you can narrow it down to one or two possibilities.

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Has any one else used this to learn to mod? It was a great help, trying to implement some of these tweaks via the module system. Thanks for that.  :)

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Hardrada: "Mount & Blade has encountered an error and needs to close. Any information you have may be lost. We are sorry...etc, etc."

Also known as: all that time spend editing all those little numbers, and no end result still. I might just cry.

And yet again: How does one use the "module system"? Is it just going into the module folder and tinkering with a copied Native folder, as I have been doing?
Or are there more sinister arts at work?
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The module system can be found here. You'll also need to download and install Python. You'll probably also have to do a little tinkering with the environment variables to get the batch file to run. More help with modding can be found here.

Mostly, modding M&B involves editing a series of lists. These lists are used to generate the text data that you see in your Native folder. Might sound complicated. To me it looked really intimidating as well, but the basics are pretty easy to get a handle on, particularly using TML's tweaks as a reference.

EDIT:
A tip: always keep a clean version of the module system handy. Also, the first thing you'll want to do is change the path in module_info.py to the desired mod folder.
« Last Edit: November 27, 2008, 09:36:28 PM by Bellum »

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nice tweaks i used a few had trouble but fixed em^^

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this is to change how much renown you get for winning the tournament:

open up menus.txt and search this:

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menu_town_tournament_won 512 You_have_won_the_tournament_of_{s3}!_You_are_filled_with_pride_as_the_crowd_cheers_your_name._In_addition_to_honour,_fame_and_glory,_you_earn_a_prize_of_{reg9}_denars._{s8} none 21 2330 2 3 144115188075856056 1 3 936748722493063318 360287970189639680 20 1 3 936748722493063320 144115188075856056 1 2133 2 72057594037927945 200 1062 2 250 360287970189639680 1528 2 360287970189639680 72057594037927945 2319 1 8 2120 3 1224979098644774912 144115188075856096 144115188075856097 4 0 32 2 144115188075856097 0 2133 2 72057594037927944 1224979098644774912 2320 2 8 1585267068834414980 3 0 1528 2 360287970189639680 1224979098644774912 2133 2 1224979098644774913 0 2123 3 1224979098644774913 144115188075856097 5 521 3 1224979098644774914 144115188075856056 51 2106 2 1224979098644774914 1224979098644774913 2111 2 1224979098644774914 250 501 3 144115188075856056 51 1224979098644774914 1 1 936748722493063518 1

the red bit is the renown you get if you win, change it to whatever you want
« Last Edit: November 29, 2008, 01:18:51 PM by tommylaw »
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