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Re: Fix of the food not giving morale bug
« Reply #30 on: September 25, 2008, 07:55:56 PM »
Or perhaps it's due to the fact that you can undress girls (up to a point anyway, we need a Better Bodies mod for M&B :P).
I don't see you complaining about Mount and Blade.

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Re: Fix of the food not giving morale bug
« Reply #31 on: September 25, 2008, 08:09:22 PM »
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Realistically speaking, food variety helps intestinal peristaltics and gastric evacuation, but it doesn't influence morale that much.
A bigger problem is that succesfull sieges don't increase morale, or even lower it if the PC falls unconscious.

Eating the same thing every day for a long period of time really sucks.

Think about the romans who carried their wheat all over europe and made the same damn bread to eat everyday. Only variations was rat meat and other small animals. If they werent carefull about their salt things could start to "really suck"

I have edited the horses to run 2 points faster.. Il check the item editor if the food is messed up..

EDIT**'Everythings fine

Aren't the romans kind of the exception to the rule, as they'd get pissy if they didn't have their wheat ration though if they only had their wheat ration they'd still be happy?
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Re: Fix of the food not giving morale bug
« Reply #32 on: September 25, 2008, 08:21:47 PM »
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Realistically speaking, food variety helps intestinal peristaltics and gastric evacuation, but it doesn't influence morale that much.
A bigger problem is that succesfull sieges don't increase morale, or even lower it if the PC falls unconscious.

Eating the same thing every day for a long period of time really sucks.

Think about the romans who carried their wheat all over europe and made the same damn bread to eat everyday. Only variations was rat meat and other small animals. If they werent carefull about their salt things could start to "really suck"

I have edited the horses to run 2 points faster.. Il check the item editor if the food is messed up..

EDIT**'Everythings fine

Aren't the romans kind of the exception to the rule, as they'd get pissy if they didn't have their wheat ration though if they only had their wheat ration they'd still be happy?

Well who wouldnt be pissy if they settled with just eating grain for some years and then someone took away that too..
I dont think theres any army that would be happy about their grain being taken away.. I just used the romans as an example because with them i know they carried a whole lot of stuff with them using Marius Mules.. I think the total was around 40 - 50 kg worth of baggage per man.. Each soldier carrying stakes for a pallisade, digging tools, a bag of grain, weapons and such..
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Re: Fix of the food not giving morale bug
« Reply #33 on: September 25, 2008, 08:49:19 PM »
This is all getting horrendously off-topic, but the point is we need our damn beer and wine back on tap pronto. Thank you, and have a great day.

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Re: Fix of the food not giving morale bug
« Reply #34 on: September 25, 2008, 08:51:02 PM »
what you talking about? the topic was about the bug that occured to me so that food doesnt give morale! But hell yeah give us back our ale!!! Not just the children ale, we want the magic ale!
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Re: Fix of the food not giving morale bug
« Reply #35 on: September 25, 2008, 08:59:05 PM »
wait wait... you cant give your party beer and wine, but you can buy the whole damn town a round?!

Also, why is it that when you win a battle the opposing side never has any food? Are the looters the only ones that eat anything in all of calradia?!
I think at this point I spend more money on food for the army than on their wages!
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Re: Fix of the food not giving morale bug
« Reply #36 on: September 25, 2008, 09:53:20 PM »
I have edited the horses to run 2 points faster.. Il check the item editor if the food is messed up..

EDIT**'Everythings fine
OK, but the point here is that you've edited the items list by editing the horses. It's possible that the (unofficial) item editor saved something else incorrectly related to the food items which is causing your problem. It's a single file which it edits.
Perhaps you should try it with an unedited items file?
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Re: Fix of the food not giving morale bug
« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2008, 10:45:19 PM »
This is all getting horrendously off-topic, but the point is we need our damn beer and wine back on tap pronto. Thank you, and have a great day.

And then if you got a mission to take Beer or Wine to another city, unless your men either didn't touch it or you had spares, you wouldn't be able to complete it.

Would have been nice if there were two types of food and drink, Goods, that don't get eaten or drunk (as in you're transporting them to be sold somewhere else) and consumables which give the bonus and are eaten/drunk
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Re: Fix of the food not giving morale bug
« Reply #38 on: September 25, 2008, 11:10:09 PM »
There was two different Ale and Wine items in .960. The one for the quests wasn't consumable and gave no moral bonus. Don't worry, it'll be trivial to mod back in.
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Re: Fix of the food not giving morale bug
« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2008, 11:31:47 PM »
No obviously im the only one having this problem..

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You get my drift? If im not constantly fighting im dropping morale.. I know its a fighting game, but common
I've bought food to increase morale, and, if I'm remembering correctly, the increase did not occur until the next day.  Just prior to your screenies, did you run out of food and then buy a bunch?

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Re: Fix of the food not giving morale bug
« Reply #40 on: September 25, 2008, 11:40:28 PM »
Okay this wasnt fixed in the latest version, so is there anything i can do? im running an army of 100 + so the food bonus on morale is pretty essential.. any txt files or anything that can be editet?

I run my game without modifications/edits of any kind.  I don't have that issue with food and morale.

However, one thought that comes to mind is if you have rotten beef in your inventory, maybe that's why the no food penalty is showing???
I wouldn't eat any food near rotten beef because of the flies and maggots in the vicinity.  It's just a thought...

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Re: Fix of the food not giving morale bug
« Reply #41 on: September 25, 2008, 11:44:16 PM »
just loot a village and take everythng with a morale bonus of above 50

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Re: Fix of the food not giving morale bug
« Reply #42 on: September 26, 2008, 01:40:47 AM »

Also, why is it that when you win a battle the opposing side never has any food? Are the looters the only ones that eat anything in all of calradia?!
I think at this point I spend more money on food for the army than on their wages!

good point. only in my game even looters have no food....

also food bonuses matter only when your actual morale is higher than the modfiers. it's then subtracted and ya get the recent events #. with a morale below 99 try to add more food variety and notice how the total won't change. what will change is the recent events. it will decrease :)

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Re: Fix of the food not giving morale bug
« Reply #43 on: September 26, 2008, 01:52:27 AM »
just loot a village and take everythng with a morale bonus of above 50

Nothing has a morale bonus that high. About +8 is the highest - Butter, I think.
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Re: Fix of the food not giving morale bug
« Reply #44 on: September 26, 2008, 01:52:53 AM »
Or perhaps it's due to the fact that you can undress girls (up to a point anyway, we need a Better Bodies mod for M&B :P).

Of course you'd want it, you guy-playing-a-girl.