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Jhessail said:
-  I feel more comfortable talking to people and looking them in the eye (especially women), I have a firmer voice and sound more sure of myself.
-  I walk around with my head held up high and my back straight, I smile at people and I’m never afraid of meeting strangers.
-  I am more comfortable than before with speaking in front of crowds and just being in a crowd in general.
-  I am more motivated to get things done, I do the things I need to do as soon as I can and I don’t long for just staying home and playing video games.
-  I don’t jump to conclusions when somebody looks at me funny or when I notice someone disliking me. You can’t be popular with everyone.
-  I don’t feel ashamed thinking about women in a sexual way and I can ask someone I like out for a coffee or beer (almost) without getting nervous.

Are you seriously claiming that these changes happened because you stopped watching porn?
Do you think he is lying about this?  :???:

I absolutely believe that this worked in his case because he decided to kick his porn addiction. Not because watching porn does the opposite of what he listed, but more so guilt about his addiction as well as the skewed views on sexuality that porn can give a person have inhibited him from being a cool dude  :cool:

Seems like more so a self-confidence problem related to guilt than much else. But that hardly changes the equation, and does not at all affect the results. Good on you for addressing your personal demons Urgrevling. If things ever get dire just go somewhere with no internet.

That being said, I totally disagree with the nofap thing. Sometimes a challenging mental or moral problem is best solved after a nice wank. I can't believe any real benefits ("superpowers") outside of an increased libido, unless they are wrought from issues of self-confidence, as I believe is this case. Even though sex drive will be increased and perhaps this will make people more outgoing and therefore most likely more likely to find someone to do the horizontal mambo with... Well, if you haven't jerked off in 30 days you probably won't be equated to a marathon runner.  :razz: But as long as you're ok with lasting 5 seconds the first go, all the power to you and may your second run be much more impressive!
 
Jhessail said:
I thought I made that same distinction pretty clear?

Essentially, you end up low on dopamine, which can cause...
Doesn't dopamine levels balance out fairly quickly? Orgasm is not as powerful as dopamine-affecting drugs, after all, and the brain does balance out after those, though it will take months and months.
In a normal person, the effects of an orgasm generally last for 2 weeks. In a normal person though, the affects are minimal. In a porn addicted person, the affects are much stronger. The effects of the last orgasm still take about 2 weeks, but recovery will be much quicker after that.
 
Rubbish thread. It's a fact that regular orgasms (not multiple times a day obsession, but a few times a week ideally) reduces risk of prostate cancer, plus no woman will want you to come in 10 seconds when you do have sex again. Therefore there's no problem with maintaining a non-intensive routine, especially when you're without a sexual partner currently or they're long distance, it's actually only good, not to mention the relaxing effect it can have from time to time.

Edit : Though as for doing it watching porn specifically, I might actually agree that it has negative attitude influences when overdone.
 
Harkon Haakonson said:
Edit : Though as for doing it watching porn specifically, I might actually agree that it has negative attitude influences when overdone.

Yup. Also, growing up watching HC porn and having pretty limited social life is a pretty silly combination. One of my friends did pretty much that, and drunken chats with him revealed some preeeetty bizarre misconceptions about women and sexuality when we were teenagers. But otherwise I'm 100% on the same porn positive boat with Jhessail.
 
@Ruthven
I don't seriously believe that not masturbating gives you superpowers either, I just understand it as everything being a little easier as a result of the confidence boost you get from quitting. Like I said in the first thread, I've always had problems coming inside a woman. I don't think I'll become a premature ejaculator for a good while yet. :razz: If I do, I might give some masturbation a go again. Thanks for the encouragement though!

@Harkon
Then I don't think you read the OT. I never said that masturbation itself is unhealthy, but I think it can become an unhealthy habit together with porn for some people.
Fair enough, it prevents prostate cancer. But you don't have to whack it every day, and wouldn't regular sex be just as good anyway?
 
Not any longer than a couple of weeks I think. I should say, the problem is mostly with people I don't know very well. I think psychology plays a large part in it.
 
Ah, can't say I've had the same issue of having trouble coming inside of women I don't know very well!

God, I'm sorry, this topic is just too exploitable. :lol:
 
Urgrevling said:
@Ruthven
I don't seriously believe that not masturbating gives you superpowers either, I just understand it as everything being a little easier as a result of the confidence boost you get from quitting. Like I said in the first thread, I've always had problems coming inside a woman. I don't think I'll become a premature ejaculator for a good while yet. :razz: If I do, I might give some masturbation a go again. Thanks for the encouragement though!

@Harkon
Then I don't think you read the OT. I never said that masturbation itself is unhealthy, but I think it can become an unhealthy habit together with porn for some people.
Fair enough, it prevents prostate cancer. But you don't have to whack it every day, and wouldn't regular sex be just as good anyway?
Yes, regular sex would be even better, but I'm saying we need to be realistic, not all of us are Seff and manage to have a 100% uninterrupted sexual activity; we can be in relationships, but if that ends, there's bound to be periods, no matter how small, of dry spell. Especially when you just come out of a relationship and you're likely somewhat rusty about the whole dating thing. There's always periods where it's necessary.

And yes, you don't need to do it everyday, far from it, and you should even avoid that level of addiction as I said in my post.
 
I would say that watching too much porn is unhealthy for your harddrive and for your internet speed because streaming it or downloading makes things terribly slow.

And if you're stupid enough to pay for it, you'll also be getting a thin wallet. No one wants a thin wallet.


I'd say porn can be unhealthy if watched too much and quite frankly when it comes to sex its often unrealistic, and I personally can't watch most porn because I instantly get turned off if I see another male genitalia. I'm not a bigot or utterly disgusted by another male but I just really can't feel turned on if I see another guy gabbing a girl, or two guys going at it. So anything I ever did look at was softcore female stuff for the most part...

I find that giving up PORN is a good idea in that sense. Because it just reduces a habit that takes up time and space.

Masturbation on the other hand... I think is important to keep. It is important to masturbate because even if you are in a relationship (as I am) it helps relieve tension and stress when you may not have the chance to get it on with your partner, maybe one of you is out of town, etc. It does, if done in moderation help make you happier because you aren't as pent up. But if you stroke until you choke the poor thing you are doing something wrong- I dunno, im not a doctor nor am I a psychologist. And at the moment I've only had one truly successful relationship, which lucky for me is still successful and seems fairly happy to me. But I don't feel like im entitled so much on this topic in terms of giving advice or information out.


What I can say is that if you grew up masturbating and trying to prevent your family from finding out that from a personal standpoint that is actually STRESSFUL to do and god awful annoying. Of course it comes to a point of self control, do it when there is some time for yourself and figuratively and literally, let loose the juice. Blow the load off your mind and be done with it.

But as for quitting porn? I don't even watch porn anymore. I used to a long while ago but now I just... don't find the need for it. Between small amounts of masturbation and stuff I do with my lady, well I just find I don't really *need* it.

Either way good luck with your decision and hopefully it benefits you. I can personally say that you really aren't missing out on much with the porn side, the vast majority of it is fake sex with men attaching larger fake dicks and fake orgasm's from the women with the whole down and dirty down in a unrealistic and often fetishized fashion.

 
Both Harkon and Crimson, notice how I never said that masturbation is unhealthy or judged anyone for looking at porn.
Harkon, I have no idea what the real problem is here. All I'm doing here is holding off on masturbation for a while as an experiment. If it so happens that I get laid in the meantime, I'll be sure to enjoy it. But I don't feel any pressing need to empty my balls either, and waiting just feels easier now.


Austupaio said:
God, I'm sorry, this topic is just too exploitable. :lol:

I'm starting to see that.  :lol: Don't worry, I'm not too serious about all this.
 
This feels like shades of Seinfeld. I'm waiting for you to come back in week and tell us how you threw it all away for a one-nighter with a Portuguese waitress Costanza style.
 
Ruthven said:
Do you think he is lying about this?  :???:
I think he was originally attributing changes in his personality to ceasing masturbation and watching porn. Which I believe had nothing to do with the changes, as he himself attributed in the later posts.

There is no miracle cure, no single silver bullet that can solve all your problems. If Urgrevling was seriously addicted to pornography AND masturbation to the extent that it interfered with his social life and relationships, then cutting back is obviously healthy and a good choice. Avoiding porn doesn't automatically improve your posture or make you more self-confident - the two main things that all the changes he listed seem to come from.

That's why it came across as a silly self-help booklet type of thing. "Stop watching porn! Cut back on masturbation! No more bad breath! Promotions at work! Get the woman of your dreams! Bigger muscles in a week!"

MadocComadrin said:
In a normal person, the effects of an orgasm generally last for 2 weeks. In a normal person though, the affects are minimal. In a porn addicted person, the affects are much stronger. The effects of the last orgasm still take about 2 weeks, but recovery will be much quicker after that.
2 weeks? Whoa. How come I thought the dopamine returns to normal level in few hours.
 
Urgrevling said:
Both Harkon and Crimson, notice how I never said that masturbation is unhealthy or judged anyone for looking at porn.
Harkon, I have no idea what the real problem is here. All I'm doing here is holding off on masturbation for a while as an experiment. If it so happens that I get laid in the meantime, I'll be sure to enjoy it. But I don't feel any pressing need to empty my balls either, and waiting just feels easier now.


Never stated you stated that mind. I am just speaking of my own thoughts on the subject like every other self entitled nerd is supposed to/does  :lol:
 
Jhessail said:
I think he was originally attributing changes in his personality to ceasing masturbation and watching porn. Which I believe had nothing to do with the changes, as he himself attributed in the later posts.

There is no miracle cure, no single silver bullet that can solve all your problems. If Urgrevling was seriously addicted to pornography AND masturbation to the extent that it interfered with his social life and relationships, then cutting back is obviously healthy and a good choice. Avoiding porn doesn't automatically improve your posture or make you more self-confident - the two main things that all the changes he listed seem to come from.

I never admitted that giving up porn had nothing to do with the changes. I admitted that other lifestyle choices I've made probably played a part as well, and that I may have overestimated the effect of quitting porn.

I still think it had an effect on many of those changes I noted. I'm not the only young man who has reported positive changes.
It might have had a kind of domino effect; once I could talk to women without feeling ashamed of myself I also felt more confident in other contexts.

I didn't mean for this to sound like a miracle cure, but I thought that many might not have considered that giving up porn might be positive. Possibly because we've all learned that masturbation is healthy, which I won't argue against, and masturbation and porn are closely linked in many people's minds.
 
Jhessail said:
2 weeks? Whoa. How come I thought the dopamine returns to normal level in few hours.
It's not just "returning to normal levels." It's correcting the mechanisms in the feedback loop to enable the levels to return to normal (ie. allowing receptors to return to normal numbers, waiting for production to kick back up, etc).
 
yourbrainonporn.com is basically bull****. None of those claims are scientifically proven, there's not much logic to that except the guilt that people have because our society teaches sexuality is icky. Seems your problems have much more to do with being ashamed of your sexual desires that you fulfil with porn than with porn or masturbation themselves.

Also I've seen a couple studies that basically disprove that stopping to masturbate makes you testosterone levels rise consistently, they'll do that for about a week and then they'll start to go back to your normal levels, not masturbating will also lead to your body excreting semen in another ways like ejaculating while you sleep. There's absolutely no physical reason to not masturbate, and personally, I wouldn't want to live crazy for sexual release 24/7, as I have a really high sex drive and already am absolutely crazy even if I masturbate frequently, if I did not it would be unpleasant for me and people who had to live with me.

If porn creates unrealistic expectations is because you're taking it too seriously, I've never had problems with unrealistic beauty expectations or sexual expectations from that, because I know porn depicts real sex just like Hollywood films depict real life, also amateur porn is more to my tastes.
 
One thing we can all agree on with no need for surveys and scientific claims.......Stopping masturbation will make you less of a jack-off. In the literal sense at least.
 
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