Porn addiction

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I recently decided to give up porn indefinitely. And masturbation too until I felt comfortable doing it again.
I strongly believe it’s made me a better person in a lot of ways.
I don’t blame people for wanting to watch other people do naughty stuff, I won’t even go so far as to say wether it’s unhealthy or not. But I discovered that for me, giving up porn was one of the best decisions I ever made.

I’ve spoilered the following as some might find it boring to read about me.

I started watching porn when I was about twelve I think, not long after I discovered masturbation. After that porn became an essential part of masturbating for me. I’d sneak downstairs after midnight to watch the adult channel at first, then it really took off when we got a computer and broadband.

I’d watch porn even when there was a risk of being discovered. I remember once when my sister was right outside the door talking to some friends. I was watching porn and masturbating. I masturbated all the time, which I guess is normal for teenagers. But it became a crutch, because it felt good and was easy to do.

I obsessed over specific pornstars, specific scenes and specific sex acts. I never had much success with girls though, I think because I creeped them out or because I was too busy watching porn to notice when someone was interested in me. And it might have raised my standards to rather ridiculous levels.

It gave me a sense of entitlement when it came to sex, and it was always there even when I knew it was wrong. I felt miserable when I was one of the last guys to have sex. I think I also scared away my first girlfriend by how pushy I was. I could also never finish inside her, and that problem has persisted to some extent until now.

I recently discovered some old family photos, and I noticed how I never smiled in those pictures. I always looked sullen and hunched down, like I had something to be ashamed of. That was both depressing and thought-provoking. Why was I so miserable all the time? When I talked to my mom about it, she said that I'd never been like that as a child. It couldn't be just the usual hormones and teenage shenanigans. It continued into early adulthood and I think it might still not be completely over.

When I was 20 I discovered that a lot of people had a problem with porn, and some people try to limit or give up their porn habits completely. It made me want to try it. I actually noticed rather immediate improvement in my outlook on life. I didn’t feel ashamed of myself anymore.
For the next couple of years, I tried on and off to quit porn. Every time I noticed positive changes. But then I’d just go for a single peek, say I’d open the tit or arse thread on TW, and that would result in a weeks-long binge every time.
Now I’ve decided to quit again, I’m getting close to two weeks and feel great. I’m not saying quitting porn will change your life, or that it’ll cure your depression. I am saying that it’s worth trying, it’s helped me and it’s helped other people as well. Once you get through the first few days it's not so bad. Whenever you get aroused, just repress the impulse to masturbate. If you suddenly remember a specific scene, pornstar or something like that (I often do) and want to have just a little look, don't.

Further reading, watching, stuff
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Reddit.com/nofap
Rather bizzare community of people («fapstronauts») who are all trying to give up porn, masturbation, for some all sexual stimulation. Full of acronyms and jargon, cult-like in its outlook. What I found nice about this page is that you can get a badge that says how long you’ve held out without PMO (which is nofapese for porn, masturbation and orgasm. It can also be a verb). People there often talk about «superpowers» gained through abstaining from PMO. If that sounds ridiculous to you I fully understand, but there might actually be some truth in it.

Gary Wilson
I don’t know how many of you have already watching that, but I think it makes some interesting points about porn’s accessibility and possible effects on people growing up today. It’s worth a watch. He also has a book and a website with testimonies from people who quit porn. Not all researchers agree with this guy, I’ve seen his book and research be called unscientific many times. I haven’t read his book, and I don’t plan to. But I find his theories interesting nonetheless. It's worth trying and if it doesn't work for you, no real loss.

here is a Vice article on his book and theories: http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/you-can-fap-or-****-but-not-both-842

This is a study about two African tribes in which masturbation was so uncommon that researchers had to show them how in order to collect semen samples: http://jambo.africa.kyoto-u.ac.jp/kiroku/asm_normal/abstracts/pdf/31-3/107-125.pdf

Here are some of the personal developments that I’ve felt recently, that may or may not be correlated with quitting porn. I say that because I have no idea myself, but I could see there being some correlation.

- I feel more comfortable talking to people and looking them in the eye (especially women), I have a firmer voice and sound more sure of myself.
- I walk around with my head held up high and my back straight, I smile at people and I’m never afraid of meeting strangers.
- I am more comfortable than before with speaking in front of crowds and just being in a crowd in general.
- I am more motivated to get things done, I do the things I need to do as soon as I can and I don’t long for just staying home and playing video games.
- I don’t jump to conclusions when somebody looks at me funny or when I notice someone disliking me. You can’t be popular with everyone. 
- I don’t feel ashamed thinking about women in a sexual way and I can ask someone I like out for a coffee or beer (almost) without getting nervous.

So... yeah.
 
-  I feel more comfortable talking to people and looking them in the eye (especially women), I have a firmer voice and sound more sure of myself.
-  I walk around with my head held up high and my back straight, I smile at people and I’m never afraid of meeting strangers.
-  I am more comfortable than before with speaking in front of crowds and just being in a crowd in general.
-  I am more motivated to get things done, I do the things I need to do as soon as I can and I don’t long for just staying home and playing video games.
-  I don’t jump to conclusions when somebody looks at me funny or when I notice someone disliking me. You can’t be popular with everyone.
-  I don’t feel ashamed thinking about women in a sexual way and I can ask someone I like out for a coffee or beer (almost) without getting nervous.

All because you don't jerk it a couple of time a week?
Sign me up! I want lasers blowing out of my eyes and an ability to drink thrice as many pints. Can you guarantee this magical **** to me?

I understand that there may be some minor benefits in not masturbating regularly (but then any habit/hobby is bad when done excessively!) but this all seems much too good to be true. Colour me cynical please.
 
Yeah, that's why I said there may or may not be some correlation. Before I started doing it I was depressed and whimpy, now I feel better. Either way, it's worth a go.
 
I can see how excessive masturbation and porn watching can lead to disinterest in real life (i.e. boring :smile: )sex with "normal" looking people. The rest of the effects sound like placebo, to be honest. But whatever works, I guess.

Abstaining from any kind of orgasm (we already have a word for that - celibate) sounds craycray to me though. Whether you do it for a better posture or not to make a deity cry, it only leads to a dead hooker in your trunk and an APB issued on your person.
 
Yeah, I don't intend to go celibate.  :lol:
I agree that many or most of the effects might be placebo, but I don't care as long as it works for me.
 
If you had bothered to read the OP, he has a girlfriend and ****in' problems is one of the reasons he's taking a wank break.
 
Interesting.
When I was young(er) I used to watch it a lot (like, daily. I kept a notepad full of links to use when I didn't feel like searching for one) and then it came to an abrupt stop about two years ago when I lost my virginity and imagination, etc. became way more interesting (though I still watched it every once in a while, weekly maybe). I don't know if it has anything to do with it, but since then I've been more outgoing and social and whatnot. Interesting to read that there might've been a correlation.
 
-  I feel more comfortable talking to people and looking them in the eye (especially women), I have a firmer voice and sound more sure of myself.
-  I walk around with my head held up high and my back straight, I smile at people and I’m never afraid of meeting strangers.
-  I am more comfortable than before with speaking in front of crowds and just being in a crowd in general.
-  I am more motivated to get things done, I do the things I need to do as soon as I can and I don’t long for just staying home and playing video games.
-  I don’t jump to conclusions when somebody looks at me funny or when I notice someone disliking me. You can’t be popular with everyone.
-  I don’t feel ashamed thinking about women in a sexual way and I can ask someone I like out for a coffee or beer (almost) without getting nervous.


Watching pornography or masturbating has nothing to do with your psychological quirks or issues. Talking about leaping to conclusions! Are you seriously claiming that these changes happened because you stopped watching porn?

No, they didn't. It sounds to me that you had an actual addiction, in which case getting rid of said addiction is a good thing - but it could have been My Little Pony or Metallica for ****s sake. Obsessive nerd with bad posture and probably poor personal hygiene will creep girls out, no matter whether you jerk off 6 times a day to Big Black Cocks or not. The typical teenage angst and "depression" also has nothing to do with porn, it's something that everyone goes through, though the severity varies.

At least you realized that the sub-reddit is a "cult", as most of them are. Masturbation is entirely healthy for a person. Sure, anything can be taken to extremes and porn can be harmful if, as kurczak said, it replaces actual human interactions for you. However, as I wrote earlier, that is same of all addictive behaviours whether it's an MMO or whatever.

Reverend L. Lamb said:
Ye gods this sounds like someone selling a self-help book :shock:
Yeah, it does.
 
We don't really know enough about long-term effects of watching porn to say wether it's healthy or not. I also think masturbation is healthy in moderation, but so is apparently both beer and red wine according to some research. I'm not a crackpot, I appreciate the need for scientific evidence before we can say anything conclusively. But I'll also continue with something that works for me regardless of that.
I don't blame you for being sceptical either. Yeah, I'm fully aware of how all of this sounds. It started out as an observation of the whole "nofap" thing and my experiences with quitting porn, and I wanted to foster a discussion on the possible merits of this choice. But I figured I might as well recommend people to try it.
If you can watch porn and live a normal life, good for you. I have noticed too many negative changes in my personality from watching too much porn to start using it again.

Don't get me wrong here, I've also done some other things to improve myself. Maybe it's the feeling of taking charge of my life that's improved my confidence, I don't know. But if it works, I'm okay with that. Once again I'd like to stress that the list is of changes I've noticed in myself, some of which might conceivably have been caused in part by quitting porn.

That said, you've made me reconsider how much of an effect quitting might have had. There are probably other things I've done that have helped me as well, but I still think quitting porn was very beneficial.

Austupaio said:
If you had bothered to read the OP, he has a girlfriend and ****in' problems is one of the reasons he's taking a wank break.

I don't, but I'm not really sexually frustrated either at the moment. If it comes, it comes.
 
Reverend L. Lamb said:
Ye gods this sounds like someone selling a self-help book :shock:
All it takes to get you posting here again is talking about porn and masturbation, eh?  :razz:
 
Urgrevling said:
That said, you've made me reconsider how much of an effect quitting might have had. There are probably other things I've done that have helped me as well, but I still think quitting porn was very beneficial.
In your case it probably was, since I got the impression from your OP that it consumed much of your time. Pornography, like any sort of entertainment, can absolutely be harmful to certain individuals.

Masturbation is entirely healthy. I've never heard of any actual research that would have even hinted at negative issues. Obviously going completely overboard is unhealthy, but so it goes with everything.

It's excellent that you now seem to consider that you made other changes in your life at the same time and that these also had an effect. I would argue that they had far more of an effect than dropping porn but what do I know? Just a random FBI agent on the Internet.
 
@Jhess:

There are generally two theories that are used to explain excessive (interfering) masturbation: "chemical" addiction and OCD. The OCD one is less likely the case in most cases (but not unheard of). The "chemical" addiction theory basically says that excessive masturbation, especially with porn (especially with escalation of various subjects, themes, etc) leads to ones dopamine feedback loops being shot. Essentially, during masturbation, especially at climax (especially with "thrill" factors), there is a large spike of dopamine. This signals the body to stop making dopamine; however, this spike doesn't last long--not nearly as long as it takes for the body to start making dopamine normally again. Essentially, you end up low on dopamine, which can cause depression, anxiety, low motivation, anger issues, weight gain, sexual dysfunction outside of masturbation w/ porn (especially if there is ritualization to the masturbation) etc. It also creates dependence, as the body wants to make up for the low dopamine with another spike: this leads to more masturbation  or other symptoms such as overeating, drug abuse, etc.

What often also happens is that it the person gets used to various types of porn and such (they get smaller and smaller dopamine spikes), meaning they seek out more extreme forms of satisfaction. This exacerbates the problem.

In those terms, it is very much an addiction. Masturbation (in amounts that don't interfere with daily life significantly--whether that be 3 times a day or 3 times a year--is generally healthy; however, for people with porn addiction, it isn't--they needs to overcome their addiction and be very careful afterwards. It's very similar to alcoholism: alcohol in moderation is healthy unless you're an alcoholic/predisposed to being one.
 
I thought I made that same distinction pretty clear?

Essentially, you end up low on dopamine, which can cause...
Doesn't dopamine levels balance out fairly quickly? Orgasm is not as powerful as dopamine-affecting drugs, after all, and the brain does balance out after those, though it will take months and months.
 
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