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All,
I have spent a while developing what i consider to be the most underdeveloped weapon in the game, the mace. I have created the following maces using historical (not fantasy) prototypes. I will also include the links and sources so you can know from what originals I developed them. In the picks I have included an untextured 'spiked mace' from the game for size comparisons...I hope you enjoy. Please be aware that i am NOT a texture artist. However, Septa created a nice texture for me and i added a few more with different shades of wood for the shaft.
Other things to keep in Mind when viewing:
The following models were designed to streamlined as much as possible. They are all under 350 polygons most under 200. To put this in perspective the ‘native’ spike mace model included has 500.
People I would like to thank: Highelf, without his tutorials none of this would have happened. At my age, 38, learning 3d modeling would normally take too much time from scratch. Thanks man, completing these has created a great sense of satisfaction. Also, the game designers themselves who gave me as pure a simulation there is of Steppe warfare and fun, which in its purest form is thankfully devoid of Potions, spells and the like (no offense to players if that is your 'thing').
Finally: I have finished adding the hard edges and final mods. Soon I will release the models for free to the general public. You are more than welcome to use them for whatever mods you are making with the following requests;
1.) That you give me credit for the work
2.) That you improve the Models
3.) That since I am not a modder as of yet that someone take these maces and create a simple mod using ’native’ that includes these and upload it so that I can download it and enjoy them. I will include suggested specs (damage, size, speed, etc ) in a post prior to final submission. (feel free to use them or modify them as it suits).
4.) Lastly, that some talented Texture artist (Septa, are you hearing this (grin)) be willing to recreate textures for some historical armor, items, etc. as I continue to create things, thanks in advance.
Here is the rundown on the following maces:
Mace1 – Serbian Mace. Typical of what are called the Balkan ‘Knobbed’ maces. Taken from a color plate by Angus McBride in the Osprey Book “ Hungary and Fall of Eastern Europe 1000-1568”. In the book it is displayed in Color Plate ‘B3’ as being carried by a Serbian Heavy Infantryman Circa Mid 13th century. These maces were typically carried mace head up and under the sword belt (i.e. uncovered).
Model Picture Link:
Mace 2 – Balkan Mace. A conglomeration of numerous prototypes. All of the maces are in essence simple and effective. Made with varying lengths of shafts depending on foot or mounted use (this is a footmen’s mace).
Model Picture Link:
Mace 3 – Balkan Turkish Mace. Taken from a surviving artifact in a personal collection described as a “Piriform mace head with thick flanges - c.14th-16th (i.e. 1300’s-1500’s). Such maces could either be Balkan or Turkish as Turkish influence in weapons was evident in many if not most of the Balkans through most of the period.
Prototype website: http://otlichnik.tripod.com/medmace3.html
Model Picture Link:
Mace 4 – Hungarian Flanged Mace. 13th – 14th century from a prototype discovered in Hungary. This mace could easily be the twin of maces from Kiev during the 13th century. This shows how weapons of the region had varying influences. This looks very similar to English maces of the period but has a smaller head.
Prototype website: http://otlichnik.tripod.com/medmace3.html
Model Picture Link:
Mace 5 – Khazar mace 9th-11th centuries. I will simply quote the prototype information via the owners website “A beautifully made but very small version of the earliest type of medieval knobbed mace. This design - four pyramidal knobs on a cubic body - is known as Type I in Kirpichnikov’s typology of Russian and Steppe mace heads. These maces are first found in Khazaria, the steppe lands just north of the Caucasus mountains, in the 9th century AD. By the 11th century they were being made in Kiev and other southern Rus cities. These maces were spread westward into the Balkans by the migrating western Turkic tribes. Iron mace heads are found in the Balkans, likely of local tribal manufacture. Higher quality bronze examples come from the Kievan and Khazar foundries.”
Prototype Website: http://otlichnik.tripod.com/medmace2.html
Model Picture Link:
Group Shot of Maces 1 to 5 :
Mace 6 – Turkish ‘Cucumber’ mace 12th-13th centuries : known as “khyara-t al-dabbus”. Most of these had 6 flanges. I now have 2 of these modeled one has 8 flanges (Slight artistic license) and the other the correct 6 flanges. These were very popular and once again shafts varied in length depending on mounted or foot use. This one has a slightly longer shaft for mounted use.
Prototype Website: http://otlichnik.tripod.com/medmace3.html
Model Picture Link:
Mace 7 – Byzantine 13th-14th century Mace. By far the most unusual mace in our line up. I was intrigued by this one on the owners website. This example was a documented find from Bulgaria. Read the info on the website as there are many things that are interesting with the prototype.
Prototype Website: http://otlichnik.tripod.com/medmace3.html
Model Picture Link:
Mace 8 – Balkan / Kievan / Others 12th-13th centuries. Fascinating Mace from the Balkan region which is also noted in paintings as far away as Italy and Switzerland as well as Persia. Read the write up below:
Prototype Website: http://otlichnik.tripod.com/medmace3.html
Model Picture Link:
Mace 9 – Turkish Mace 15th Century (and similar ones much prior to that). This is a very typical Turkish mace of the time period. I wanted to make one that had the proper number of flanges but the model grew well in excess of 800 polys. Therefore this facsmilie will have to do. This was a common mace of Officers and Janissaries (so its stated). This one was found in Bosnia.
Prototype website: http://otlichnik.tripod.com/medmace4.html
Model Picture Link:
Group Shot of Maces 6 to 9:
Mace 10 – A German ‘Spiral’ mace 12th Century. An interesting example of the flanged spiral mace which is stated on the owners website to have originated in Moslem Sicily. This example was manufactured in Germany and adds a unique item to the game.
Prototype Website: http://otlichnik.tripod.com/medmace3.html
Model Picture Link:
Mace 11 – a very much modified version of a mace included in the game. I own the prototype for this mace. My prototype is based on a mace from Moorish Spain circa 11th-13th centuries. It has a long shaft as a horseman’s mace and was also illustrated in Ospreys “ Byzantine Armies 886-1118” on Color Plate H1 being carried by a Seljuk Mercenary late 11th century. A 13th century version of the mace can be purchased here: http://www.armor.com/2000/catalog/item147.html I own this mace and its heavy and would hurt like hell. I chose to go on the example of the Seljuk Mace with the much longer shaft for Cavalry use.
Model Picture Links:
Group shot Maces 10 to 11:
A few other Group Shots:
LOL! All of the above shots were Wings 3D screenies...here is the actual OPENGL render (talk about a DUH! moment...too late tonight to render the above instead of screenies)
I hope you enjoyed it!
I have spent a while developing what i consider to be the most underdeveloped weapon in the game, the mace. I have created the following maces using historical (not fantasy) prototypes. I will also include the links and sources so you can know from what originals I developed them. In the picks I have included an untextured 'spiked mace' from the game for size comparisons...I hope you enjoy. Please be aware that i am NOT a texture artist. However, Septa created a nice texture for me and i added a few more with different shades of wood for the shaft.
Other things to keep in Mind when viewing:
The following models were designed to streamlined as much as possible. They are all under 350 polygons most under 200. To put this in perspective the ‘native’ spike mace model included has 500.
People I would like to thank: Highelf, without his tutorials none of this would have happened. At my age, 38, learning 3d modeling would normally take too much time from scratch. Thanks man, completing these has created a great sense of satisfaction. Also, the game designers themselves who gave me as pure a simulation there is of Steppe warfare and fun, which in its purest form is thankfully devoid of Potions, spells and the like (no offense to players if that is your 'thing').
Finally: I have finished adding the hard edges and final mods. Soon I will release the models for free to the general public. You are more than welcome to use them for whatever mods you are making with the following requests;
1.) That you give me credit for the work
2.) That you improve the Models
3.) That since I am not a modder as of yet that someone take these maces and create a simple mod using ’native’ that includes these and upload it so that I can download it and enjoy them. I will include suggested specs (damage, size, speed, etc ) in a post prior to final submission. (feel free to use them or modify them as it suits).
4.) Lastly, that some talented Texture artist (Septa, are you hearing this (grin)) be willing to recreate textures for some historical armor, items, etc. as I continue to create things, thanks in advance.
Here is the rundown on the following maces:
Mace1 – Serbian Mace. Typical of what are called the Balkan ‘Knobbed’ maces. Taken from a color plate by Angus McBride in the Osprey Book “ Hungary and Fall of Eastern Europe 1000-1568”. In the book it is displayed in Color Plate ‘B3’ as being carried by a Serbian Heavy Infantryman Circa Mid 13th century. These maces were typically carried mace head up and under the sword belt (i.e. uncovered).
Model Picture Link:
Mace 2 – Balkan Mace. A conglomeration of numerous prototypes. All of the maces are in essence simple and effective. Made with varying lengths of shafts depending on foot or mounted use (this is a footmen’s mace).
Model Picture Link:
Mace 3 – Balkan Turkish Mace. Taken from a surviving artifact in a personal collection described as a “Piriform mace head with thick flanges - c.14th-16th (i.e. 1300’s-1500’s). Such maces could either be Balkan or Turkish as Turkish influence in weapons was evident in many if not most of the Balkans through most of the period.
Prototype website: http://otlichnik.tripod.com/medmace3.html
Model Picture Link:
Mace 4 – Hungarian Flanged Mace. 13th – 14th century from a prototype discovered in Hungary. This mace could easily be the twin of maces from Kiev during the 13th century. This shows how weapons of the region had varying influences. This looks very similar to English maces of the period but has a smaller head.
Prototype website: http://otlichnik.tripod.com/medmace3.html
Model Picture Link:
Mace 5 – Khazar mace 9th-11th centuries. I will simply quote the prototype information via the owners website “A beautifully made but very small version of the earliest type of medieval knobbed mace. This design - four pyramidal knobs on a cubic body - is known as Type I in Kirpichnikov’s typology of Russian and Steppe mace heads. These maces are first found in Khazaria, the steppe lands just north of the Caucasus mountains, in the 9th century AD. By the 11th century they were being made in Kiev and other southern Rus cities. These maces were spread westward into the Balkans by the migrating western Turkic tribes. Iron mace heads are found in the Balkans, likely of local tribal manufacture. Higher quality bronze examples come from the Kievan and Khazar foundries.”
Prototype Website: http://otlichnik.tripod.com/medmace2.html
Model Picture Link:
Group Shot of Maces 1 to 5 :
Mace 6 – Turkish ‘Cucumber’ mace 12th-13th centuries : known as “khyara-t al-dabbus”. Most of these had 6 flanges. I now have 2 of these modeled one has 8 flanges (Slight artistic license) and the other the correct 6 flanges. These were very popular and once again shafts varied in length depending on mounted or foot use. This one has a slightly longer shaft for mounted use.
Prototype Website: http://otlichnik.tripod.com/medmace3.html
Model Picture Link:
Mace 7 – Byzantine 13th-14th century Mace. By far the most unusual mace in our line up. I was intrigued by this one on the owners website. This example was a documented find from Bulgaria. Read the info on the website as there are many things that are interesting with the prototype.
Prototype Website: http://otlichnik.tripod.com/medmace3.html
Model Picture Link:
Mace 8 – Balkan / Kievan / Others 12th-13th centuries. Fascinating Mace from the Balkan region which is also noted in paintings as far away as Italy and Switzerland as well as Persia. Read the write up below:
Prototype Website: http://otlichnik.tripod.com/medmace3.html
Model Picture Link:
Mace 9 – Turkish Mace 15th Century (and similar ones much prior to that). This is a very typical Turkish mace of the time period. I wanted to make one that had the proper number of flanges but the model grew well in excess of 800 polys. Therefore this facsmilie will have to do. This was a common mace of Officers and Janissaries (so its stated). This one was found in Bosnia.
Prototype website: http://otlichnik.tripod.com/medmace4.html
Model Picture Link:
Group Shot of Maces 6 to 9:
Mace 10 – A German ‘Spiral’ mace 12th Century. An interesting example of the flanged spiral mace which is stated on the owners website to have originated in Moslem Sicily. This example was manufactured in Germany and adds a unique item to the game.
Prototype Website: http://otlichnik.tripod.com/medmace3.html
Model Picture Link:
Mace 11 – a very much modified version of a mace included in the game. I own the prototype for this mace. My prototype is based on a mace from Moorish Spain circa 11th-13th centuries. It has a long shaft as a horseman’s mace and was also illustrated in Ospreys “ Byzantine Armies 886-1118” on Color Plate H1 being carried by a Seljuk Mercenary late 11th century. A 13th century version of the mace can be purchased here: http://www.armor.com/2000/catalog/item147.html I own this mace and its heavy and would hurt like hell. I chose to go on the example of the Seljuk Mace with the much longer shaft for Cavalry use.
Model Picture Links:
Group shot Maces 10 to 11:
A few other Group Shots:
LOL! All of the above shots were Wings 3D screenies...here is the actual OPENGL render (talk about a DUH! moment...too late tonight to render the above instead of screenies)
I hope you enjoyed it!