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The prominent Hamas leader, who founded the group’s military wing Qassam Brigades, said he was done with terrorism. Done with raising money and recruiting fresh militants. He concluded Hamas is “harmed if we target civilians. At the end of the day, the fruit of military action is political action. All wars end with truces and negotiations.”
He may have changed his mind though given that the peace process isn't going anywhere. He seems to claim that the Qassam brigade kidnapped the Israeli teens with the intention of swapping them for Palestinian prisoners. This apparently is in line with some of the operations Israel believes him to be involved in. He doesn't mention why the teens where killed however. Below is the video with subs.
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/4437.htm
In any case new vacancies have just opened up in the Hamas leadership as well so I am curious if he is trying to muscle his way to the forefront of politics. He has been previously suspected of having a role in the kidnappings so it may or may not be true but he may also be acting independently or just taking credit for something that he knows will piss someone off.
Claim by Saleh al-Arouri, a founder of Hamas's military wing, is doubted by experts and not supported by other Hamas sources.
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Hugh Lovatt, Israel and Palestine coordinator at the European Council on Foreign Relations, said that while al-Arouri was a significant Hamas figure – serving as the group's most prominent representative in Turkey – the former militant could have an ulterior motive for making his claim.
"Given the timing I would be very suspicious about his claim. I still don't believe Hamas as an organisation and its upper echelons sanctioned the kidnappings – something that Israeli intelligence also believes," he said.
Lovatt said that al-Arouri may be trying to claim credit for the actions of others in an attempt to demonstrate his own continued sway in the West Bank and Hamas's ability to hit Israel after failing to secure significant concessions after six weeks of violence in Gaza.
"A second, more remote possibility, is that al-Arouri is telling the truth and that he has operated on his own initiative – a development with very worrying repercussions as it would imply a serious power struggle and splintering within Hamas," he said.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/21/hamas-kidnapping-three-israeli-teenagers-saleh-al-arouri-qassam-brigades
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/21/israel-kills-three-hamas-commanders-air-strike
Also interestingly enough:
Israel's Shin Bet security service claimed on Aug. 18 that it thwarted a Hamas-led coup in the West Bank designed to topple Palestinian Authority (PA) President Mahmoud Abbas. The internal security agency said it arrested more than 90 Hamas operatives, confiscated weapons, and seized $170,000 in cash. The Israelis also fingered the man they believe to be at the center of the plot: Turkey-based Hamas leader Saleh al-Arouri.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2014/08/20/turkey_hamas_palestine_erdogan_abbas_israel
He may have changed his mind though given that the peace process isn't going anywhere. He seems to claim that the Qassam brigade kidnapped the Israeli teens with the intention of swapping them for Palestinian prisoners. This apparently is in line with some of the operations Israel believes him to be involved in. He doesn't mention why the teens where killed however. Below is the video with subs.
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/4437.htm
In any case new vacancies have just opened up in the Hamas leadership as well so I am curious if he is trying to muscle his way to the forefront of politics. He has been previously suspected of having a role in the kidnappings so it may or may not be true but he may also be acting independently or just taking credit for something that he knows will piss someone off.
Claim by Saleh al-Arouri, a founder of Hamas's military wing, is doubted by experts and not supported by other Hamas sources.
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Hugh Lovatt, Israel and Palestine coordinator at the European Council on Foreign Relations, said that while al-Arouri was a significant Hamas figure – serving as the group's most prominent representative in Turkey – the former militant could have an ulterior motive for making his claim.
"Given the timing I would be very suspicious about his claim. I still don't believe Hamas as an organisation and its upper echelons sanctioned the kidnappings – something that Israeli intelligence also believes," he said.
Lovatt said that al-Arouri may be trying to claim credit for the actions of others in an attempt to demonstrate his own continued sway in the West Bank and Hamas's ability to hit Israel after failing to secure significant concessions after six weeks of violence in Gaza.
"A second, more remote possibility, is that al-Arouri is telling the truth and that he has operated on his own initiative – a development with very worrying repercussions as it would imply a serious power struggle and splintering within Hamas," he said.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/21/hamas-kidnapping-three-israeli-teenagers-saleh-al-arouri-qassam-brigades
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/21/israel-kills-three-hamas-commanders-air-strike
Also interestingly enough:
Israel's Shin Bet security service claimed on Aug. 18 that it thwarted a Hamas-led coup in the West Bank designed to topple Palestinian Authority (PA) President Mahmoud Abbas. The internal security agency said it arrested more than 90 Hamas operatives, confiscated weapons, and seized $170,000 in cash. The Israelis also fingered the man they believe to be at the center of the plot: Turkey-based Hamas leader Saleh al-Arouri.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2014/08/20/turkey_hamas_palestine_erdogan_abbas_israel
rejenorst said:
The lead dude is in Doha Qatar. He'll probably live into his late 90s at this point. The rest of the heads of the hydra will regenerate. If there is one thing, for which the "Palestinian Liberation Organization" might set a record, it is their persistence in keeping the "dream" alive through numerous group fissions and assassinations of high leadership.
Well Israel's reach isn't limited to Palestine. They've previously assassinated a Palestinian leader in Dubai among other places, admittedly the operation wasn't a 100% success. They killed the target yes but they were all over the news and drew a lot of unwanted attention which lead to their methodology being discussed left right and center.
But the point still stands yes that Hamas won't die basically because Israel's and Hamas' dream(s) cannot coexist. And both dreams seem to demand lebensraum at the expense of anothers.
But the point still stands yes that Hamas won't die basically because Israel's and Hamas' dream(s) cannot coexist. And both dreams seem to demand lebensraum at the expense of anothers.
Sowwy m8, it wuz me.Radalan said:
rejenorst said:
Doesn't Mossad generally behave like a sledgehammer almost every time they're trying to kill more than a single person at a time?
Subtlety doesn't seem to be part of the strategy when they are attempting to send a blunt message but having the operatives caught on camera at the scene and then having the passports they used (which where false) shown on tv caused a bit of a **** storm due to the nations of the fake passports getting upset. Maybe it didn't matter in the long run but I think that was to much exposure.
Cover story on this morning Wall Street Journal: Alleged Collaborators With Israel Killed in Gaza
Model organization. Really too bad they don't administrate the entire region, huh?
Model organization. Really too bad they don't administrate the entire region, huh?
Kobrag said:
man if only the hashashins were still alive to take out mossad agents then there would be a better assasins creed
