1860s - SAY or ASK WHATEVER U WANT !! (....in a KIND way...)

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Moved ur post in the existing Music Topic.
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,202833.msg4889148.html#msg4889148

I will answer there about it.  :wink:

Ohh...by the way:
-are U playing 0.99Z? (if yes...no comments on it?!  :shock:)
-...not supporting 1860s mod anymore in ur sig pic?!  :eek:

Gab
 
Hi Gabrilduro!

I absolutely LOVE the mod and the direction you took it, I am a huge fan of Clint Eastwood Wild-west movies and can clearly see that you are too! nothing like spaghetti westerners by Sergio Leone with Ennio's music eh?

I just have a few suggestions to make/things to point out.

Standard Bearer is misspelled, Usa and Csa and not capitalized, they are initials and should be CSA and USA, the CSA unit tree is broken and partially circular and the ranges for various firearms are ridiculously short.

I suggest that the factions should be named without initials, e.g. United States of America for the Federal Government and American Settlers for the settlers because there is a distinction between the American  (USA Federal) Government and the Americans living in the "Wild West". Also firearms have very short ranges and battles start with the armies shooting volleys at each other from short ranges yet hitting nothing and doing no damage, even 18th century muskets had better range. Damage also drops way to fast, velocity is certainly important but bullets do not have 5X the stopping power at a range of 10 yards as they do at 40 yards. Another thing is that Presidents are still referred to as kings and lords, this doesn't make much sense and should be edited out. Gameplay-wise the most significant things are the ridiculously short range firearms (you could increase the range and damage at range while also reducing accuracy to balance) and the incessant bandit raiding parties.

The mod is fantastic with great choice in music, in the future could you please add I wish I was in Dixie and some tunes from the Good the Bad and the Ugly and Once Upon A Time In the West!
 
Its so sad that i discovered this mod so late. Luckily it is a mod which is still being updated.

So, its a great mod. I like it.
But i dont like those other textures and those sounds. I am a fan of the normal Native Textures and sounds.
And the map looks a bit boring.

These are the only points which i dont like. The rest is a very good work !
 
Thx v m Nik97 and  paladinj   :razz:

Once again, though....are U sure that U tried 0.99z ?  :eek:

Weapons balancing took me for ever this time, trying to be as much accurate as possible and possibly pleasing most previous requests.

My personal gaming experience testing the changes that I made, gave to me a really pleasing and accurate experience on the period firearms...but maybe U refer to smth in particular?

Gab
 
The range for all guns is just way to short, and damage falls so much, at ~100 yards infantry can be shot 8 times with a musket hit every time and still survive. And those spelling are still in the game, by the way, how can we add musical tracks without removing the old ones?
 
Hi Gab,

I was wondering how to recruit the Csa Infantry Officer, Csa Cavalry Officer, and the Csa Standardbearer? I've seen those units around a lot, but only now am I interested in recruiting them.
 
My review, for what it's worth.  I'd like to think my criticism is constructive, but I suspect it will not be received well.

* The map.  It's too large.  Much, much too large.  It's so large it takes several seconds to load it again every time I switch to it.  And have you tried taking an escort quest?  I gave up after the second week of escorting a carvan to New York for $500 and hadn't even made it past Mexico.  The map also looks horrible, like a giant putting green with triangular holes punched in it.  There's not even an attempt at realistic hills, mountains, forests, deserts, and so on.  It looks lazy and poorly thought out.

* Sticking your name all over everything is tacky, bordering on narcissistic.  I am well aware you made the mod.  I don't need to see GABRILDURO in big capital letters stuck over everything.  Having yourself as an NPC is probably bordering on egotistical, but I can understand it.  Stamping your name on every dialogue with an NPC is just obnoxious.

* Nothing is balanced.  Nothing.  Everything appears to have random numbers attached with no attempt at balance whatsoever.  NPCs with "7" for every skill, horses with costs completely detached from their performance, food quantities ranging from a bag lunch to a barnload taking the same inventory space, and priced without regard for value or function.  NPCs with levels so high that they are unlikely ever to advance -- but does't really matter because they have 70+ strength for some inexplicable reason.

* Bugs.  Bugs, bugs, and more bugs.  Constant, non-stop bugs.  Relationships with various NPCs I've never met changing at random.  Random bandits which give native Warband bandit quest dialogue.  Cities which are villages.  Villages which are cities.  Invisible underwater bandits shooting guns out of the bottom of a lake.  Invisible legs any time you wear shoes.  "FAILURE TO LOAD X" errors everywhere.  Random roving crashes, mostly I suspect due to pathing problems, since the game appears to have no idea how to navigate any of your battle maps, which are strewn with ugly, low-poly "hills" with reality-defying 70 degree angles.  There were so many bugs I stopped keeping a list, since it would be easier to list what does work than what doesn't.

* Spelling and grammatical errors everywhere, combined with sub-literate dialogue.  There's simply no excuse whatsoever for this.  If you're too lazy to pick up a dictionary, then find someone with literacy-level English skills.  Putting out something for public consumption this badly spelled is simple laziness.  And it's disrespectful to the people you presumably want to entertain because it shows that you don't care enough about what they think to put in the effort to run a spell-checker over your work.

* Completely nonsensical game mechanics.  Which guns use which ammunition isn't explained anywhere, and I still have no clue what the "special" ammunition is for, since it doesn't work in any of the guns I tried, despite you putting it into the inventory of NPCs who can't use it either.  I have a "knife" which is two-handed and has a length longer than most vanilla Warband swords.  Horses have randomly-assigned charge values which are so high they make weapons pointless anyway.  And why the christ does one of the companion NPCs have exploding poison gas arrows?!

* And speaking of "Crumbs", the racism in this mod is pretty obnoxious.  If you can't figure out why costume hands and headdresses which turn you brown are racist, I can't really explain it to you.

I wanted to like this mod.  It's a nice idea, but it's very, very poorly implemented, and given your hostility to any kind of criticism, I don't think it's likely to get better.
 
Gruumsh said:
My review, for what it's worth.  ..................

Some of the things you said are obviously fair, like the thing about large amounts of food sometimes, compared to small amounts at other times.

But the fact that not everything is spelled correctly? Gabrilduro is ITALIAN! It's hard for him to understand English like you or I do. That's like me judging you for making a mod in Spanish and spelling things wrong.

It's not your native language, so it's not fair to judge you on that.

And the part about racism? It's the 1860's, dude! C'mon! Racism was rampant in the U.S. up until the 90's The 1990's!!!! But it's still around even today, so don't complain about the game being racist (which it's not) for no reason. And even so, having the ability of making your character look like a Native American is part of the roleplaying experience, not racism.

Honestly, think a little more about what you're saying before you say it, and I'm a troll on youtube! This coming from me to someone else is just sad for the other person.
 
Gruumsh said:
My review, for what it's worth.  ..................

1. Have you tried playing ad1257? Now that is a large map. I don't think the large map in 1860's is a problem since it doesn't lag nor stutter for me compared to when playing other mods with large maps like ad1257 and pelopponesian war. I have taken many escort quests for a quick buck, but I only choose to escort caravans of the faction which i'm fighting for. The map doesn't look horrible. Clearly you haven't played horrible mods, as you can't see that a lot of work and effort has been put into this mod.

2. I don't really like seeing GABRILDURO everywhere, but I don't really care for companions so it doesn't bother me. And what's the problem for a modder having fun with his own mod by putting himself and his friends in there? It's not like he's making the mod for free just for us whiny players.

3. I quite agree about the item balance. IMO some items are priced without regard for value, but I don't know what the modder intended for the balance so I just take it as it is.

4. Bugs. All mods have bugs. I have played many mods with much more and much worse bugs. Relationships with various NPCs I've never met changing at random. I have that problem too, for someone named general napoleon something. But he's not in the game anymore (I think he's part of a multiplayer-only faction),so no trouble with that. What's the problem with native Warband bandit quest dialogues? For the footwear, there are shoes and there are boots. Not all footwear fits in with other clothes. For shoes to not give you invisible legs, choose to wear clothes with long pants like the USA uniforms I think. I never got a single crash anymore since I lowered my battlesize so no problems there. Only gripe I have with the game is the pathfinding of units in town scenes where they just get stuck in one place.

5. Not every person is an expert in the english language like you, you know. Gabby may not be that great in english, but he's a very talented and hardworking modder, and he's ITALIAN.

6. "Special Ammunition" are for "Special and Modified Guns". Are you sure that the game mechanics are nonsensical? Have you even asked the modder first why he made them that way? I'm sure you could find a better solution by yourself, right?

7. I'm a brown guy (from the Philippines), and if I want to play as a brown character, this mod gives me the option to do it. What's racist with that? What's racist is when you attach every brown color with racism.


As you can see, I'm not even a Gabrilduro supporter. But I just have to post here because a modder's hard work is being belittled. Gabby's mods may not be perfect or very polished, but it's obvious that a lot of effort has been put into making them. You can't even find many good musket mods for warband.
 
SRACon17 said:
But I just have to post here because a modder's hard work is being belittled. Gabby's mods may not be perfect or very polished, but it's obvious that a lot of effort has been put into making them. You can't even find many good musket mods for warband.
Still, some things are just... well, bad. I think Gabrilduro should've ended his work with 1755 OF, or at least tried to make that Mod better with small updates from time to time, rather than to spent a lot of time with other two Mods which ended being a downgraded version of the first.
 
Pjoft said:
SRACon17 said:
But I just have to post here because a modder's hard work is being belittled. Gabby's mods may not be perfect or very polished, but it's obvious that a lot of effort has been put into making them. You can't even find many good musket mods for warband.
Still, some things are just... well, bad. I think Gabrilduro should've ended his work with 1755 OF, or at least tried to make that Mod better with small updates from time to time, rather than to spent a lot of time with other two Mods which ended being a downgraded version of the first.

Well I actually enjoyed 1860's the most among the three. I think the pathfinding is actually much worse in OF, and I prefer the wild west theme. So, thanks to Gabby for making this mod :smile:
 
Gruumsh said:
My review, for what it's worth.  ..................
Gruumsh !?  :shock:
HAHAHAHA....a new Name for an... old..err.. "Friend", huh?!  :mrgreen:
Uhh...what a bad post U made this time, my dear... really bad and really empty of any credible sense!  :twisted:

Mamma mia...the exaustive replies that U got from those kind players and supporters of mine do not really need any more comments from myself...but...see...I don t like when some "arrogants" like U start insulting and be too judgemental on me and my personal life.

I spent years Modding for free for u and the whole Comunity, right?
Now, what or who allows U to have the right to put down my work so much, basing ur comments on nonsense?!

-1 I am not American, but busting my but for U "Americani" guys should give me more credit, not insults. Why don t U make a better mode on your own then? If an american will ever make a Mod on Garibaldi U can bet that I will THANK him, even if is not that great...and will not blame him and his Mod for sure. I will just try to help him, praising his good work but also kindly pointing some mistakes that he made.
-2 This is a Full Conversion Mod, honey. Total remake of Native. And on SP/MP/Custom Battles and Arenas, as U VERY well know, dear "ex" Mate...hehehe... so the time and the effort spent were huge. And at the moment is THE ONLY Musket Mod that is progressing about that period time and that is not JUST MP or JUST SP, afaik...right?!

-GABRILDURO, once again and again and again...is not my name, which is Marco. (see, I do not hide like U trolls behind some "bandits" fake id) It is my Son s name, Gabriele. GABRIELE THE TOUGH. (Gabri- il- duro= Gabrilduro) which has a Tourette Syndrome and plays and enjoys my Mods, specially modified for him not to have much blood and violence to deal with. And he helps me modding and testing them.
So...THAT is why U see his name in the game...and ALL MY FRIENDS and Best Supporters as well (Auldman, Azrooh, CRUMBS!!!...Alan, Shredzorz, Dellivis...etc etc etc etc ....)
I am the ONLY Modder ever in the history that CREDITS people DIRECTLY in the Gameplay, U poor person....and U dare accuse me of Self Adoration?!  :mrgreen: 
It is a joyful old joke that I started in 1755, imagining all my friends close to my son in the game, fighting all together...and THAT S  why they all say that will MEET Gabrilduro!  :roll:
3- I pushed so hard to have players to respect Native americans/Black and Chinese ppl in my Mods, U poor person...and U dare accuse me of...RACISM???!!!
I fought all my life against RACISM and IGNORANCE...and U have them BOTH, U poor person...blaming me cuz I m Italian and cannot speak a good english??!!  :roll:
Allora...parliamo in italiano, ehh?! Vediamo come te la cavi, bello mio ... :twisted:
4- I am proud, yes, PROUD of my work and of my Topics. Because I always kept them worked, clean and nice to all kind people.
My Mods are NOT perfect, of course....but they are a lot of FUN!! ...and there is not anything that U or any HATER (that s what U are) can do to change that!

On another side, I admit that at least U invested some time to write ur nonsenses...and instead thousands of players just download and play ...and do not even post a word.

That is my only regret....but I am still very satisfied and still willing to progress, giving for free some fun to all of those that have a working PC and...AN ORIGINAL COPY OF M&B WB 1.158 !!!  :twisted:

Gab
PS....uups...forgot to say thx to Sra con and Greedy for their honest and fair comments. Thx guys. That was really apreciated.  :wink:
 
Where can I find the music used in this mod? Is there a full playlist on youtube or something? It is very good. :smile:


Nice job on the mod by the way, I just tried it out today.

Edit: But did you really do this all from text tweaks? That must have been quite hard, and you won't be able to do much in the future, I'm surprised you got this far with text editing. I would recommend switching to Python for your next mod.
Edit2: Also, the world map needs a lot more work. All the terrain is on the same level, and you haven't even bothered to make the coastline smooth. It is purely cosmetic, but it does make a difference, and you should consider a overhaul of the world map. :smile:
 
Thx for grats, really apreciated, really. Expecially if coming from You!  :wink:

... and I m so happy that someone really knows what tweaking texts only means in terms of huge and difficult work done.  :twisted:

Oh, yes...I totally agree with U, those things and adjustments are needed...but I m exausted...really...  :cry:

And my motivation is not that high at the moment, expecially having ppl like Mr. Groomshy &CO. up above.  :roll:

Friends and supporters promised help after this 0.99 Z fatigue of mine...but still I am awaiting for their comments  :eek:

Gab
PS best luck for UR OWN mod.
U can open a Topic and advertize it, if U want, adding a Link to it.
I usually do that with other Modders new and good potential projects  :cool:
 
GABRILDURO said:
HAHAHAHA....a new Name for an... old..err.. "Friend", huh?!  :mrgreen:

I have no idea what you're rambling about.  I'm guessing that someone other than me has at some point expressed a negative opinion of your work.  I'm guessing they received a similar reception.

Uhh...what a bad post U made this time, my dear... really bad and really empty of any credible sense!  :twisted:

I hesitated for two days about posting a review, because I suspected that this is exactly what your reaction would be from looking through the previous postings, and the ominous warning that you don't want any criticism.  I decided in the end that I'd give you the benefit of the doubt.  Clearly I shouldn't have.  If all you want is handjobs from admiring yes-men, I suggest that you distribute the game to your immediate family and no one else.  The moment it goes into general public distribution, it is fair game for critique.

Now, what or who allows U to have the right to put down my work so much, basing ur comments on nonsense?!

A keyboard, a personal opinion, and a public forum where comments were invited.  I was not at the time aware that only sycophantic apple-polishing was permitted.  Mea culpa.  Not a mistake I'll make again.
 
Whatever U say Groomshy...now go back to ur Analyst and drive HIM not us, crazy with ur frustrations after ur attack here got a full distruction...  :mrgreen:
U will excuse me now... but my very small free time does not include fellows like U.  :wink:


[quote author=TheAnyKey ]
Hi,

I am wondering, if there's a comprehensive weapon/ armor list, with all ranged and melee weapons of the 1860 mod. Also, how viable is melee combat in this mod? Also, is it possible to turn off those cliché and stereotypical singing/ war cry sounds whenever I draw a certain weapon, like a bow for example?

Thanks.
[/quote]

Moved ur post here, TheAnyKey. Pls do not open a New Topic on this...

Scroll through existing Topics and U ll find ur answers.
If not, post here again and I will help U.
Gab
 
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