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BIT Tournament Rules & Discussion POLL: PM Scheduling Info?
« on: December 02, 2012, 05:29:41 AM »
The purpose of this thread is to discuss the new BIT (Battle Innovation Tournament) rules that are upcoming. Some of the new rules are here to stay, as I'm hell-bent on being innovative (people are naturally resistant to change) but others I'm willing to be much more flexible with. I'm happy to put it to a vote for discussion and debate. As I'd like this to be an intelligent discussion, voting will not be done via poll, rather by posting Vote: X with X being your answer choice. Remember to bold, else it's a bit hard to see in a wall of text. This may be tedious, but it stops random people or Europeans from voting and forces people to at least look at the end of the thread to vote. I'm not opposed to European votes, but I don't want an influx of them clicking whatever sounds best.

So here are the votes:

Monday 12/2/12: How long should round times be?
Vote A: 6 minutes (incumbent)
Vote B: 5 minutes (proposed change)

Tuesday 12/3/12: How many rounds should be played before a swap?
Vote A: 4 rounds total (incumbent)
Vote B: 5 rounds total (proposed change)

Wednesday 12/4/12: Should wins be based on total maps or rounds?
Vote A: Maps (incumbent)
Vote B: Rounds (proposed change)

Thursday 12/5/12: Should all of the teams be allowed in the finals (see CJTT) or just the top 8?
Vote A: All. (incumbent)
Vote B: Top 8. (proposed change)

Friday 12/6/12: Should all scheduling information be forced to be PM'd to me?
Vote A: No. (incumbent)
Vote B: Yes. (proposed change)

Please vote only for the day that it currently is. Being off with a few hours is alright, but I don't want Friday votes on Monday.

Here's the full rules. If it's not up there to vote on, then it means it's not changing.



Battle Innovation Tournament [BIT]



Ruleset:

The tournament will be round robin similar to the CJTT. Thanks to Calamity for running the tournament preceding this one.

A team of admins will be decided on. The "chief admin" as it may be is Eternal, and KissMyAxe and Tavi will form two of the admins. I will likely look for an admin team that altogether (not including myself) consists of 6.

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Keep in mind the sign-ups aren't there yet (it will go up Saturday) and the opening isn't quite spiffy yet. That'll be fixed. Any advice on clarifying the rules would be nice too. Anyways, go ahead and vote and discuss.

« Last Edit: December 08, 2012, 04:08:07 PM by Eternal »
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Re: BIT Tournament Rules & Discussion POLL: 5 minutes or 6 minutes?
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2012, 05:31:08 AM »
i want my plains

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Re: BIT Tournament Rules & Discussion POLL: 5 minutes or 6 minutes?
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2012, 06:19:06 AM »
Vote A: 6 minutes

Also, why have we never adopted the maps listed at http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,236979.0.html?

I'm not sure if these maps were ever actually used in ENL....perhaps Lust could elaborate?

I just figured that if this is going to be called an "Innovation" tourney, we might as well include some dramatic changes, as opposed to just the standard gold/time/minor rule haggling.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2012, 09:57:07 AM by WilySly »

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Re: BIT Tournament Rules & Discussion POLL: 5 minutes or 6 minutes?
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2012, 06:23:08 AM »
Vote A: 6 minutes

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Re: BIT Tournament Rules & Discussion POLL: 5 minutes or 6 minutes?
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2012, 06:38:18 AM »
Why would we change to 5 minutes? Even EU uses 6 minutes now I'm pretty sure.
Nevermind, looks like they did for a bit in ENL though
« Last Edit: December 02, 2012, 06:42:24 AM by Master Unicorn »

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Re: BIT Tournament Rules & Discussion POLL: 5 minutes or 6 minutes?
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2012, 07:34:48 AM »
6 min
« Last Edit: December 02, 2012, 07:55:58 AM by BinaryAznMon »

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Re: BIT Tournament Rules & Discussion POLL: 5 minutes or 6 minutes?
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2012, 07:51:27 AM »
Monday 12/2/12: How long should round times be?

6 minutes


Edit: This should probably start after new years, thats a long time I know, but many many people will be away for christmas and new years etc

Just bad timing imo
« Last Edit: December 02, 2012, 08:01:38 AM by John7 »
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Re: BIT Tournament Rules & Discussion POLL: 5 minutes or 6 minutes?
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2012, 07:58:29 AM »
I just figured that if this is going to be called an "Innovation" tourney, we might as well include some dramatic changes, as opposed to just the standard gold/time/ minor rule haggling.

Pretty much sums up my views... there's nothing innovative about this tournament yet it has innovation in the name  :?

I'd vote for A

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Re: BIT Tournament Rules & Discussion POLL: 5 minutes or 6 minutes?
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2012, 12:09:52 PM »
A

Good start, but I was hoping for more innovation. :/

If you're gonna make changes, go balls out!!
« Last Edit: December 02, 2012, 12:16:15 PM by RoBo_CoP »

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Re: BIT Tournament Rules & Discussion POLL: 5 minutes or 6 minutes?
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2012, 02:42:48 PM »
Vote A: 6 minutes

Also, why have we never adopted the maps listed at http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,236979.0.html?


Those maps never went trough a proper testing phase, meaning, few clans tested them in scrims, so there was never a proper feedback is most of them.
Mine was played a lot on IG and I had a great feedback, had some things to fix and never found the time to do so.

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Re: BIT Tournament Rules & Discussion POLL: 5 minutes or 6 minutes?
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2012, 02:55:40 PM »
but it stops random people or Europeans from voting

I agree, dirty euro opinions aren't welcome here.

Vote A: 6 minutes

Whilst 5 minutes is enough time for most maps, there are still a couple (such as village) where it's all to easy for the rounds to drag out into a draw. With the random plains substitutes being fairly large I'm thinking 6 minutes might be better.

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Re: BIT Tournament Rules & Discussion POLL: 5 minutes or 6 minutes?
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2012, 02:56:00 PM »
Vote B 5 minutes

Scrims take too long and it's a pain waiting for masters for like 2 minutes.

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Re: BIT Tournament Rules & Discussion POLL: 5 minutes or 6 minutes?
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2012, 02:59:34 PM »
I would go for the 5 minutes
Vote B: 5 minutes

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Re: BIT Tournament Rules & Discussion POLL: 5 minutes or 6 minutes?
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2012, 04:53:50 PM »
Pretty much sums up my views... there's nothing innovative about this tournament yet it has innovation in the name  :?

I've already got lynch mobs after me for removing Random Plains and doing 1000 gold. If I innovate any more I'm afraid I won't have a tournament.
"Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate,
I am the captain of my soul
."

- William Ernest Henley, "Invictus"