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Re: [WARBAND MP] The Satsuma Rebellion - Samurai Mod [Screenshots Added]
« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2010, 04:48:54 AM »
What prompted the change to Satsuma rebellion? I am not very good with Japanese history so i can't tell which is which.

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Re: [WARBAND MP] The Satsuma Rebellion - Samurai Mod [Screenshots Added]
« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2010, 08:18:57 AM »
The satsuma rebellion is what it originally should have been, which was the samurai rebellion against the Imperial Empire, which was modernising. The samurai would have preferred to have kept there country under protection using the older samurai methods. If u've seen the last samurai, that was based on the satsuma rebellion. To help your understanding, heres a battle in the last samurai based on the satsuma events: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdUyHe7XTEY&feature=related

Just an update on development: Two new samurai armors have been added, the musket has also been tested ingame. Today I hope to make the imperial army.

As i've said before though, samurai honoring the older fighting methods, against a modernising 18th century Imperial Army may be fairly hard to balance, testing will be required.

Nice screens.
Also...
Just a little research.
The main rifle of the Imperial japanese during this period.
A mauser model 1871
It is bolt action, single shot, and has an 8 round tubular magazine.
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the traditional bayonet.
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They also might of used the Snider-Enfield.
Even though it's just a leftover from the recent Boshin War.
It's single shot and uses traditional black power loading techniques.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nepalese_Snider.jpg

Heres a pistol likely used by officer.The M1870 Gasser
single shot. 6 shot revolving magazine.

Thanks for this research Shalictar, I will use these names even if the models do not look exactly the same. Thanks buddy.

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Re: [WARBAND MP] The Satsuma Rebellion - Samurai Mod [Screenshots Added]
« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2010, 09:15:37 PM »
Your welcome.

As for as balance goes you are gonna have to do some testing. Players will most likely have to make fighting strategies to defeat the other.

For example, Imperial players working as partners to fire while the other is reloading could perhaps pin down incoming samurai players.
Or samurai players could use yumi bows to disrupt imperial reloading or even kill them. Giving only the samurai the option of heavy horses will also give
them a chance to rush/disrupt the imperial gunners

EDIT: I'll post some new research later on.
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Re: [WARBAND MP] The Satsuma Rebellion - Samurai Mod [Screenshots Added]
« Reply #33 on: August 17, 2010, 08:14:29 AM »
Could you give me an STL or DXF file for the Samurai armour so I can try edit it so it doesn't look the same as all the other mods samurai armour.

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Re: [WARBAND MP] The Satsuma Rebellion - Samurai Mod [Screenshots Added]
« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2010, 03:30:52 PM »
Your welcome.

As for as balance goes you are gonna have to do some testing. Players will most likely have to make fighting strategies to defeat the other.

For example, Imperial players working as partners to fire while the other is reloading could perhaps pin down incoming samurai players.
Or samurai players could use yumi bows to disrupt imperial reloading or even kill them. Giving only the samurai the option of heavy horses will also give
them a chance to rush/disrupt the imperial gunners

EDIT: I'll post some new research later on.

I am aware that testing will be required, i've been saying this since the start and cool about providing more research

Could you give me an STL or DXF file for the Samurai armour so I can try edit it so it doesn't look the same as all the other mods samurai armour.

I'm pretty happy with it just now, it has normal maps added and looks pretty good :) If I consider it ill let you know.

I havent worked on it the last few days, been out and today ive got a bad headache.

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« Reply #35 on: August 18, 2010, 01:17:04 AM »
I was originally making a mod like this, but I gave up. And it was for single player.

The last Samurai = Badass.

ugh... As a Japanese-American, I found the whole Last Samurai movie distasteful and racist for a couple of reasons.

The movie is clearly modeled on the Seinan War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinan_War). The plot makes this pretty clear--the political issue was about the treatment of Samurai in the new order after the revolution. An old honorable general who is friends with the Prime minister leads a rebellion based on his personal conception of honor, but the rebellion is crushed by the government forces. A few problems:

1) the depiction of Samurai as unwilling to change and using 17th century weapons/armor in the 19th century. This is wholly, completely, and offensively inaccurate. It's highly ironic, because the leader of the Satsuma Rebellion, Saigo Takamori, favored modernization in training/technique. He even wore a Prussian-style military uniform until his defeat when he committed ritual suicide. His army was organized into European-style divisions, with Western-style military uniforms, armed with Enfield Rifles, Field Artillery, and siege guns. There were no large formations of colorfully dressed Samurai equipped in the 17th century style. The depiction Japanese Samurai as archaic, unwilling to change, "noble savages" is wholly inaccurate, patronizing, and offensive.

2) the conscious replication of the White-man-comes-to-the-rescue Hollywood Archetype as represented in Last Samurai. In an obvious parallel to "Dances with Wolves"--even though the entire archetype simply didn't fit the historical situation in any way. Algren is the one who comes up with the tactics to be used in the decisive battle, not the Katsumoto (unlike Saigo, who most definately commanded his own army). European military advisors did attach to Shogunate forces in the 1660s--but not to Saigo Takamori's Satsuma Rebellion (he actually fought and defeated these forces in the Boshin War). The Hollywood archetype that if a White actor arrives on the scene, he must educate and lead the noble sav_ages continues.

Frankly, I have little good to say about the movie's story or script. It has some pretty good action sequences, but if you have any interest in the actual Sengoku Period, Samurai culture, or Japanese History, I cannot recommend Last Samurai in the least.


Anyways.. sorry for the rant.

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Re: [WARBAND MP] The Satsuma Rebellion - Samurai Mod [Screenshots Added]
« Reply #36 on: August 18, 2010, 07:17:21 AM »
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That armour is used in a heap of mods already, so I thought that maybe I could do some minor edit, like changing the colour from that pink to red or something. But your the boss.