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All 24 stable 11-member companion combinations!
« on: September 12, 2012, 06:09:58 PM »
I'm a geek.  Like I did for Floris, I created an excel document/visual basic program to check every possible 11+ member combination of companions for compatibility.  As it turns out, there are no 12-member combinations.  There are 24 stable 11-member combinations.  Here they are:


A couple other interesting notes.  The lowest total starting level companion combination is:
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The highest starting level combination is:
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With this information in hand:  Thoughts on the best combinations?  Also, thoughts on which 'pair' of 11-member builds would be good for transitioning a handful of companions to lords?
« Last Edit: September 12, 2012, 06:34:11 PM by kalil »

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Re: All 24 stable 11-member companion combinations!
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2012, 06:43:02 PM »
With this information in hand:  Thoughts on the best combinations?  Also, thoughts on which 'pair' of 11-member builds would be good for transitioning a handful of companions to lords?
Yeah, a plan for using (almost?) all the companions and transitioning the optimal ones to lords would be great.

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Re: All 24 stable 11-member companion combinations!
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2012, 07:02:31 PM »
With this information in hand:  Thoughts on the best combinations?  Also, thoughts on which 'pair' of 11-member builds would be good for transitioning a handful of companions to lords?
Yeah, a plan for using (almost?) all the companions and transitioning the optimal ones to lords would be great.
Hmm, poked it a bit and came up with this pair:

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Boadice and Roland have high leadership skill, Frederick and Lethaldrin have badass special troops, so they all make great lords.  The two parties have only 4 members in common (Diev, Leslie, Sara, and Sigismund).  The second group is the lowest level party possible, containing both of the level 1 party members, allowing for maximum flexibility/customizability.  Since you'll be at a high level yourself when you transition, it should be relatively easy to level up.  The initial group is the second highest level group possible, containing several total badasses (*coughlethalcough*), which will assist you in the initial part of the game.

Oh, can anyone confirm that if you promote non-nobles to Lord before hiring on noble lords, there won't be any complaints?

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Re: All 24 stable 11-member companion combinations!
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2012, 01:24:35 AM »
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,125694.msg3180700.html#msg3180700 is that "stable"?
Well, I wouldn't call that 'stable' - you've got to convince people to stay via the complaint dialogue.  I defined 'stable' as having any dislike balanced out by at least one 'like'.
Neat idea, though.

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Re: All 24 stable 11-member companion combinations!
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2012, 06:06:39 AM »
@Kalil
I did promote Julia and Frederick to lords (common), before I promoted Donovan and (gah, Dawn fellow). During the wars, both Julia and Fred did get lands after the noble ones did.
The complaints I did get though was from Nobles in other factions.

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Re: All 24 stable 11-member companion combinations!
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2012, 03:11:02 PM »
i just use TweakMB to prevent companions from leaving, recruit them all, then sit back and enjoy the drama :twisted:
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Re: All 24 stable 11-member companion combinations!
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2012, 04:47:00 AM »
As it turns out, there are no 12-member combinations.

Are you sure? I've been using:

Lethaldrien
Julia
Leslie
Sigsimund
Sara
Jocelyn
Roland
Adonja
Ansen
Sir Rayne
Kaverra
Ediz

And it's been working fine so far with no one leaving.

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Re: All 24 stable 11-member companion combinations!
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2012, 10:20:36 AM »
As it turns out, there are no 12-member combinations.

Are you sure? I've been using:

Lethaldrien
Julia
Leslie
Sigsimund
Sara
Jocelyn
Roland
Adonja
Ansen
Sir Rayne
Kaverra
Ediz

And it's been working fine so far with no one leaving.
Ediz has issues with both Kaverra and Lethaldrin.

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Re: All 24 stable 11-member companion combinations!
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2012, 10:42:50 AM »
Ediz has issues with both Kaverra and Lethaldrin.

Hmm, you're right. I wonder why he hasn't left in my playthroughs yet? I'm like 400 days in on one and he hasn't left, or really complained much. Guess I've gotten lucky!  8-)

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Re: All 24 stable 11-member companion combinations!
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2012, 12:18:58 PM »
Or you told his counterpart to shut up because you were supporting him and his opponent - luckily for you - hasn´t got a hate-person in the cricle but a like-one and  never complains because his pal comforts him in those cold and lonesome nights...

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Re: All 24 stable 11-member companion combinations!
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2013, 03:53:17 PM »
Hi, I just thought I'd add something. Been trying to find a spreadsheet or something that list all companions their skills and all of the biggest stable parties you can have. There was nothing available, so I used your list plus compiled what I could find out for all the stats and made my own spreadsheet where you can select all 24 combinations you have done and their top 10 party skills in order.

Anyway here it is, hope it works properly

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxP05Kd6HCCHLXp5UnZsQkhueWc/edit?usp=sharing

I made it in LibreOffice so that should be best to view it.
« Last Edit: March 13, 2013, 06:04:27 PM by edwardecl »

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Re: All 24 stable 11-member companion combinations!
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2013, 07:40:26 AM »
Can I keep everyone if I have max persuasion?

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Re: All 24 stable 11-member companion combinations!
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2013, 07:53:00 AM »
You might, if you don´t mind the bitching and a persuasion check every 10 seconds.

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Re: All 24 stable 11-member companion combinations!
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2013, 07:59:43 AM »
You might, if you don´t mind the bitching and a persuasion check every 10 seconds.

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