max size of a scene in metres? (units?)
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Take a look:
The size is stored into 10bit unsigned integers, so:
But I believe that the in-game map generator has a maximum of... 768? perplanar axis.
Just tweak the terrain hash and test if crashes, but it shouldn't.
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EDIT: Oh, and remove the existing
, as they're somewhat pre-formatted and only accept the changes until the boundaries of the old size.
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http://mbmodwiki.ollclan.eu/SceneObjThe size is stored into 10bit unsigned integers, so:
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1111111111 = 2^10 = 1024 meters per axis.
1024m x 1024m = 1 048 576m2But I believe that the in-game map generator has a maximum of... 768? per
Just tweak the terrain hash and test if crashes, but it shouldn't.
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EDIT: Oh, and remove the existing
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scn_*.sco
I only tested with 700 meters, You can always try 1024! 
The map-size doesn't matter much for client FPS or crashes, the amount of scene props and flora you place matter though, and big maps tend to have a lot of that, good map design can prevent that from happening.
The map-size doesn't matter much for client FPS or crashes, the amount of scene props and flora you place matter though, and big maps tend to have a lot of that, good map design can prevent that from happening.
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That's what i was thinking myself. It's a shame we dont have some kind of antiportal to use.Vincenzo said:I only tested with 700 meters, You can always try 1024!
The map-size doesn't matter much for client FPS or crashes, the amount of scene props and flora you place matter though, and big maps tend to have a lot of that, good map design can prevent that from happening.
I should probably note that, in my experience at least, if you get up to maximum sizes, you need to cut the flora value way back, or the engine does some buggy stuff, populating only half the map with trees and bushes. So, huge savannahs or empty deserts are fine, but if you want a huge forest, be prepared to do it manually (and also be prepared for how much memory it's going to consume).
That is because of the way flora is handled, All the trees,bushes etc... that use the same material.
Their last LOD stage (lod4 if applicable or higher if not) will be batched together as one big mesh and drawn as such. That saves a load of performance.
However if your flora LOD4's are a lot of triangles and the total triangle count of all the flora using this material goes over the 64K limit per mesh the remaining vertices will not be drawn.
So: Make your last flora LOD stage very, very, low poly.
Their last LOD stage (lod4 if applicable or higher if not) will be batched together as one big mesh and drawn as such. That saves a load of performance.
However if your flora LOD4's are a lot of triangles and the total triangle count of all the flora using this material goes over the 64K limit per mesh the remaining vertices will not be drawn.
So: Make your last flora LOD stage very, very, low poly.
I've made an online client-side app that not only mimics the in-game terrain key generator but supersedes its functionality,
allowing a much higher degree of customization, understanding and tweaking of the individual options.
Also, as it's coded in JavaScript is easy to look at the source and see what's going on behind the scenes.
It can be downloaded and used offline if you like. As is self-contained.
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Makes use of a HTML5 compatible browser, preferably Chrome/ium or Safari, Firefox still don't supports stuff like sliders.
Logically, Internet Explorer it's recomended for downloading either of those ones.
allowing a much higher degree of customization, understanding and tweaking of the individual options.
advantages:
[+]Insanely ridgy mountains (yeah, I know, even more).[/list] [+]Higher (and lower) seed values.[/list] [+]Completely flat terrain.[/list] [+]Desert Palms terrain type properly labeled.[/list] [+]View the actual range values.[/list] [+]Not a resource hog. [/list] | downsides:
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Code:
http://mbcommands.ollclan.eu/terrain/Also, as it's coded in JavaScript is easy to look at the source and see what's going on behind the scenes.
It can be downloaded and used offline if you like. As is self-contained.
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Makes use of a HTML5 compatible browser, preferably Chrome/ium or Safari, Firefox still don't supports stuff like sliders.
Logically, Internet Explorer it's recomended for downloading either of those ones.
That's awesome, man, super-useful!
But but but... until / if the engine gets patched to reflect the NW stuff, we can't finally have a reasonable fix for the foliage problems. Meh, must find time to type that list up for Vincenzo and co., I've been basically afk this week but RL has to come first sometimes
But but but... until / if the engine gets patched to reflect the NW stuff, we can't finally have a reasonable fix for the foliage problems. Meh, must find time to type that list up for Vincenzo and co., I've been basically afk this week but RL has to come first sometimes
Comrade Temuzu said:
Aha, that's it. 1023 x 1023, that's 1024 values per axis including zero.
You can use this for permalinks by the way:
Code:
[url=http://mbcommands.ollclan.eu/terrain/#0x0000000050000000000fffff000000000000000000000000]http://mbcommands.ollclan.eu/terrain/#0x0000000050000000000fffff000000000000000000000000[/url]That can be a pretty intimidating desert.
smurfkidharley
Ok, i know this is a really nooby question but, how do i actually put the generated terrain code to use? What files do i have to edit or whatever it is i have to do to make the map larger now that i have this code? Sorry about this stain on your thread, but i'm new to making maps so naturally i have no idea what i'm doing. Thanks in advance
Thanks in advancesmurfkidharley said:Ok, i know this is a really nooby question but, how do i actually put the generated terrain code to use? What files do i have to edit or whatever it is i have to do to make the map larger now that i have this code? Sorry about this stain on your thread, but i'm new to making maps so naturally i have no idea what i'm doing.
Just add or replace the code of a scene entry...
If you are using the module system the file is called
Code:
module_scenes.pycodes in the
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scenes.txtThat's all the magic.
Hmm.
I cant get a size over 500x500 meters ingame, doesnt matter which value the terrain code has.
The scene size is always 500m.
The scene should be 1023x1023.
Does anyone know whats wrong with it?
I cant get a size over 500x500 meters ingame, doesnt matter which value the terrain code has.
The scene size is always 500m.
The scene should be 1023x1023.
Does anyone know whats wrong with it?
Code:
("random_multi_plain_large",sf_generate|sf_auto_entry_points,"none", "none", (0,0),(240,240),-0.5,"0x0000000030000000000fffff000000000000000000000000",
[],[], "outer_terrain_plain"),# Random Plains (Large)_Sebastian_ said:
Ahh I have to set the polygon size to 5 meters instead of 2 meters.
The max scene sizes for each polygon size;
2 meters = 500x500
3 meters = 750x750
4 meters = 1000x1000
5 meters = 1020x1020
