Author Topic: Durrin Castle - hardest siege in game?  (Read 2446 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

nakieon

  • Regular
  • *
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Neutral
Durrin Castle - hardest siege in game?
« on: March 03, 2012, 04:48:57 AM »
Are you serious?  I bet this is part of the updated scenes pack thingy but this has to be a troll.  You have to run a really long distance just to get to the castle, except you still have to run AROUND the castle, up some shaggy cliffs just to get to the ladders.  This would be such an easy castle to defend, even against dark knights.

CrymsonChaos

  • Sergeant
  • *
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Nord
  • WB
Re: Durrin Castle - hardest siege in game?
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2012, 10:28:38 PM »
Or just get a bunch of archers, move them in slowly while they pick off all the ones in the towers.

nakieon

  • Regular
  • *
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Neutral
Re: Durrin Castle - hardest siege in game?
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2012, 11:39:31 PM »
Or just get a bunch of archers, move them in slowly while they pick off all the ones in the towers.

I already captured it, but it's inconsistent that this one random castle is structured like this and no other castles/capitals are.

Lord Samuel

  • Sergeant Knight
  • *
  • Halmar Res Publica - Libertas & Iustitia
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Neutral
  • WB
Re: Durrin Castle - hardest siege in game?
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2012, 02:43:10 PM »
Durrin Castle is just like that in the original scene, I believe. I just added the second ladder, and some decorative elements, like the well, or the armoured skeleton, or the skull.
Did you see the skeleton?

Me, I kind of like the long trail in the dunes, under a rain of arrows. Death coming from the sky, not a single place to hide. Could write a song about it.
   

Jekanl

  • Recruit
  • *
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Neutral
Re: Durrin Castle - hardest siege in game?
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2012, 05:04:39 PM »
It sounds more realistic.
Building a castle that forces your enemies to come at you through a rain of arrows is a good idea from a defensive view.

Lord Samuel

  • Sergeant Knight
  • *
  • Halmar Res Publica - Libertas & Iustitia
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Neutral
  • WB
Re: Durrin Castle - hardest siege in game?
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2012, 08:39:02 PM »
Yeah!

Anyway, everyone knows the hardest siege is Grunwalder.
   

nakieon

  • Regular
  • *
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Neutral
Re: Durrin Castle - hardest siege in game?
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2012, 08:52:55 PM »
It sounds more realistic.
Building a castle that forces your enemies to come at you through a rain of arrows is a good idea from a defensive view.

Except... when you siege a castle YOUR raiding party is the one that puts down the ladder, so it doesn't make sense if we were to spawn on the opposite side of the castle the ladder was placed at because you know, we would have had to be on the other side in the first place just to put down the ladder, so why would we run all the way back to the other side and then siege?

nilloc93

  • Squire
  • *
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Rhodok
  • MP nick: nilloc93
Re: Durrin Castle - hardest siege in game?
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2012, 05:17:37 AM »
It sounds more realistic.
Building a castle that forces your enemies to come at you through a rain of arrows is a good idea from a defensive view.

Except... when you siege a castle YOUR raiding party is the one that puts down the ladder, so it doesn't make sense if we were to spawn on the opposite side of the castle the ladder was placed at because you know, we would have had to be on the other side in the first place just to put down the ladder, so why would we run all the way back to the other side and then siege?

he does raise an excellent point, i'm pretty sure that the army would simply be on the OTHER side of the castle when they deploy
Kinda seems a bit misleading to label this mod (B) for both Multi and Single player if it doesn't do multiplayer yet.

I one day hope to convert lesbian twins and convince them to have sex with me, but I don't go around saying I've already done it.

Ballacraine

  • Squire
  • *
  • Slaynt vie!
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Nord
  • M&BWB
Re: Durrin Castle - hardest siege in game?
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2012, 12:40:45 PM »
It would make more sense if the beseigers placed their ladders in an intelligent place!  :wink:

Balla.  :mrgreen:
Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder ;)

Lord Samuel

  • Sergeant Knight
  • *
  • Halmar Res Publica - Libertas & Iustitia
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Neutral
  • WB
Re: Durrin Castle - hardest siege in game?
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2012, 05:35:12 PM »

Except... when you siege a castle YOUR raiding party is the one that puts down the ladder, so it doesn't make sense if we were to spawn on the opposite side of the castle the ladder was placed at because you know, we would have had to be on the other side in the first place just to put down the ladder, so why would we run all the way back to the other side and then siege?

he does raise an excellent point, i'm pretty sure that the army would simply be on the OTHER side of the castle when they deploy

I imagine the besiegers just sent some cannon fodder to place the ladders a few minutes before the arrival of the main army.
The ladder guys are just dead, now. Their bodies have sunk into the sands.
Sounds almost close to realistic to me, anyway ! :)


It would make more sense if the beseigers placed their ladders in an intelligent place!  :wink:

You are right. It would make more sense if one felt that the besiegers had actually no other choice than to put their ladders precisely where they did.
That's why terrain is so important in scene-making.

Maybe I could tweak that siege scene some more, then.


   

Xprez

  • Recruit
  • *
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Swadian
  • MP nick: Xprez_NL
  • WB
Re: Durrin Castle - hardest siege in game?
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2012, 09:22:00 PM »
It sounds more realistic.
Building a castle that forces your enemies to come at you through a rain of arrows is a good idea from a defensive view.

Except... when you siege a castle YOUR raiding party is the one that puts down the ladder, so it doesn't make sense if we were to spawn on the opposite side of the castle the ladder was placed at because you know, we would have had to be on the other side in the first place just to put down the ladder, so why would we run all the way back to the other side and then siege?
:O you got him there xD
We buy things we don't need,
With money we dont have,
To impress people we don't like


John Felton

  • Sergeant
  • *
  • Yeah, I killed Buckingham. So what!
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Swadian
  • MP nick: John_Felton
Re: Durrin Castle - hardest siege in game?
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2012, 09:40:47 AM »
Well it is good, but "imagining that the siege is realistic" doesn't make it realistic. It makes it even more dis-satisfactory and unwilling. :(

(click to show/hide)

Not to criticize anybody though, :) your mod is great and adds a huge box of fun!!

kultz

  • Recruit
  • *
  • Made an account just to hear myself talk. Really.
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Swadian
Re: Durrin Castle - hardest siege in game?
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2012, 10:39:42 AM »
The game engine has its limitations, as does the original makers of the game. Put simply, it's a matter of funding, and M&B simply does not have that sort of money. As a result, many aspects of the game is lacking. Does this make it excusable? Yes. Does this make it a good thing? No. We all want the very best, but unfortunately, that just doesn't happen often.

Now, onto the topic at hand.
The castles are different from eachtoher: Good.
Some castles are incredibly defensible: Good.
Some castles are glorified palisades: Questionable, but can't be easily fixed.
Some castles are death-traps that make Dwarf Fortress players proud: This is silly and needs a few more ladders.

Also, Lord Samuel, could I suggest you to make a few pieces of cover for the attacking side to hide behind? I tire of ducking behind my own men.

Therapy is good for you. I think.

Lokiki

  • Recruit
  • *
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Neutral
Re: Durrin Castle - hardest siege in game?
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2012, 11:42:52 AM »
I must say that ladders on the other side of the castle make no sense. Cannon foder usually comes with the army, not from the other side of the castle.

On the other side, maybe those ladders were left behind by a group that was suposed to open the castle gates secretly. Farfetched, but...

HybridSoldier

  • Sergeant
  • *
  • Born to ride
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Sarranid
Re: Durrin Castle - hardest siege in game?
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2012, 08:48:55 PM »
None can stand against me when I press Ctrl + Alt + F4  :twisted: