Multiplayer Class Statistics

RalliX · Jul 18, 2011

I'm going to list off the Faction's classes in multiplayers, with their actual in-game stats. Then you're going to talk about them, maybe.
This is all as of patch 1.143.
Terms: 1hw=One-handed weapons, 2hw=Two-handed weapons, xbow=Crossbow, IF=Ironflesh, PS=Power Strike, PT=Power Throw, PD=Power Draw, Ath/ath/ATH=Athletics, HA=Horse Archery.
All troops have 14 Strength and Agility, except for the Nord archer who has 15 strength.

Kingdom of Swadia
Crossbowman:
(proficiencies) 90 in all melee proficiencies and throwing, 180 xbow, 60 archery
(skills) 2 IF, 2 PS, 5 shield, 5 ath, 1 riding
Infantry:
105 1hw, 130 2hw, 110 polearms, 40 archery, 60 xbow, 110 throwing
5 IF, 4 PS, 2 PT, 4 shield, 6 ath, 1 riding
Man-at-Arms:
130 1hw, 110 2hw, 120 polearms
3 IF, 3 PS, 2 PT, 2 shield, 3 ath, 5 riding

Total= 1515 proficiency, 55 skill points.

Kingdom of Vaegirs
Archer:
80 in all melee proficiencies and throwing, 150 archery, 60 xbow
2 IF, 6 PD, 2 shield, 4 ath, 1 riding
Spearman:
110 1hw, 100 2hw, 130 polearms, 30 archery, 50 xbow, 120 throwing
4 IF, 3 PS, 3 PT, 2 shield, 6 ath, 1 riding
Horseman:
110 in all melee proficiencies and throwing, 90 archery, 60 xbow
3 IF, 2 PS, 2 PT, 3 shield, 5 riding

Total= 1660 proficiency, 49 skill points

Khergit Khanate
(Keep in mind this faction has only 2/3 the classes, and that lancers count as infantry as well as cavalry.)
Horse Archer:
80 in all melee proficiencies, 150 archery, 60 xbow, 100 throwing
5 PD, 2 shield, 3 ath, 6 riding, 5 HA
Lancer:
115 in all proficiencies
3 IF, 2 PS, 3 PT, 2 shield, 5 ath, 6 riding, 1 HA

Total= 1240 proficiency, 43 skill points.
Total if Lancer's stats are multiplied twice(minus 5 riding and 1 HA)= 1930 proficiency, 59 skill points.

Kingdom of Nords
Archer:
90 in all melee proficiencies, 150 archery, 60 xbow, 80 throwing
2 IF, 2 PS, 5 PD, 2 shield, 4 ath, 1 riding
Huscarl:
110 1hw, 135 2hw, 100 polearms, 40 archery, 60 xbow, 140 throwing
4 IF, 5 PS, 4 PT, 3 shield, 6 ath, 1 riding
Scout:
105 in all proficiencies.
2 IF, 2 PS, 3 PT, 1 shield, 3 ath, 6 riding, 2 HA

Total= 1775 proficiency, 58 skill points.

Kingdom of Rhodoks
Crossbowman:
100 in all melee proficiencies, 60 archery, 180 xbow, 90 throwing
2 IF, 2 PS, 2 shield, 5 ath, 1 riding
Sergeant:
110 1hw, 100 2hw, 140 polearms, 30 archery, 50 xbow, 110 throwing
4 IF, 4 PS, 1 PT, 5 shield, 6 ath, 1 riding
Horseman:
100 in all proficiencies
3 IF, 2 PS, 1 PT, 2 shield, 3 ath, 4 riding

Total= 1770 proficiency, 48 skill points.

Sarranid Sultanate
Archer:
80 in all melee proficiencies, 150 archery, 60 xbow, 80 throwing
2 IF, 5 PD, 2 shield, 5 ath, 1 riding
Footman:
110 1hw, 100 2hw, 130 polearms, 30 archery, 50 xbow, 120 throwing
4 IF, 3 PS, 3 PT, 2 shield, 6 ath, 1 riding
Mamluke:
110 in all melee proficiencies and throwing, 90 archery, 60 throwing
3 IF, 2 PS, 2 PT, 3 shield, 5 riding

Total= 1660 proficiency, 49 skill points.
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The statistics below do not involve multiplying the Khergit lancer's stats.

Total Faction Proficiency: 9655
Average Faction Proficiency: 1609.166666666666666666666666666666666...
Total Faction Skill Points: 302
Average Faction Skill Points: 50.3333333333333333333333333333333333...

Additional information provided by Alex_C, Aka; Alexander.

Alex_C said:
I did something like this a while ago for some reason, same information only organised into tables.

A comparison of each troop type: (Khergit Horse Archer goes in the Archer category)

KEY:

Italics means that this skill does not really apply to the troop.
Green means this troop has the most of this skill.
Orange means this troop has the second most of this skill.
Red means this troop has the third most of this skill.
Maroon means this troop has the fourth most of this skill.
Black means this troop has the fifth most of this skill.

Ranged:

PD IF PS HA Sh Melee Arch Xbow Throw Athletics
Vaegirs:
6
2
0
0
2
80
150
60
80
4
Nords:
5
2
2
0
2
90
150
60
80
4
Sarranids:
5
2
0
0
2
80
150
60
80
5
Khergits:
5
0
0
5
2
80
150
60
100
3
Swadians:
0
2
2
0
5
90
60
180
90
5
Rhodoks:
0
2
2
0
2
100
60
180
90
5

Cavalry:

IF PS Rid HA PT Sh Melee Arch Xbow Throw Athletics
Vaegirs:
3
2
5
0
2
3
110
90
60
110
0
Nords:
2
2
6
2
3
1
105
105
105
105
3
Sarranids:
3
2
5
0
2
3
110
90
60
110
0
Khergits:
3
2
6
1
3
2
115
115
115
115
0
Swadians:
3
3
5
0
2
2
110
0
0
0
3
Rhodoks:
3
2
4
0
2
2
100
100
100
100
3

Infantry:

IF PS PT Sh 1h 2h Pole Arch Xbow Throw Athletics
Vaegirs:
4
3
3
2
110
100
130
30
50
120
6
Nords:
4
5
4
3
110
135
100
40
60
140
6
Sarranids:
4
3
3
2
110
100
130
30
50
120
6
Swadians:
5
4
2
4
105
130
110
40
60
110
6
Rhodoks:
4
4
1
5
110
100
140
30
50
110
6

Alex_C said:

Oh, and weapons too (sorta related):

Ranged Weapons:

Speed Rating Thrust Attack Shoot Speed Max Ammo Weight
Crossbow:
43
49p
66
n/a
3.0
Heavy Crossbow:
41
58p
68
n/a
3.5
Siege Crossbow:
37
63p
70
n/a
3.75
Short Bow:
97
18p
55
n/a
1.0
Nomad Bow:
94
20p
56
n/a
1.25
Khergit Bow:
90
21p
57
n/a
1.25
Long Bow:
79
22p
56
n/a
1.75
Strong Bow:
88
23p
58
n/a
1.25
War Bow:
84
25p
59
n/a
1.5
Darts:
95
22p
28
7
5.0
War Darts:
93
25p
27
7
5.0
Javelins:
91
34p
25
5
5.0
Light Throwing Axes:
99
35c
18
4
5.0
Throwing Axes:
98
39c
18
4
5.0
Heavy Throwing Axes:
97
44c
18
4
5.0
Throwing Spears:
87
44p
22
4
4.0
Jarids:
89
45p
24
4
4.0

Melee Weapons:

Speed Rating Length Swing Attack Thrust Attack Weight
Sword:
99
95
27c
22p
1.5
Sword:
99
95
28c
23p
1.5
Short Sword:
102
85
26c
24p
1.5
Arming Sword:
99
95
29c
24p
1.5
Short Arming Sword:
103
86
26c
24p
1.5
Scimitar:
101
97
30c
n/a
1.5
Elite Scimitar:
100
103
32c
n/a
1.5
Spiked Club:
99
70
19b
n/a
1.5
Knobbed Mace:
98
70
21b
n/a
2.5
Spiked Mace:
98
70
32b
n/a
2.5
Winged Mace:
98
70
24b
n/a
2.5
Nomad Sabre:
100
97
29c
n/a
1.25
Sabre:
99
97
30c
n/a
1.5
Sabre:
99
98
31c
n/a
1.5
Heavy Sabre:
98
96
33c
n/a
1.75
One Handed Axe:
98
71
32c
n/a
1.5
One Handed War Axe:
98
76
34c
n/a
1.5
Nordic Sword:
99
94
28c
20p
1.5
Nordic Sword:
99
95
29c
21p
1.5
Nordic Short Sword:
103
85
28c
21p
1.25
Nordic War Sword:
99
95
30c
21p
1.5
Nordic Short War Sword:
103
86
29c
21p
1.25
One Handed Battle Axe:
98
73
34c
n/a
1.5
One Handed Battle Axe:
98
72
36c
n/a
1.75
One Handed Battle Axe:
98
76
37c
n/a
2.0
Fighting Pick:
98
70
22p
n/a
1.0
Military Pick:
97
70
31p
n/a
1.5
Military Sickle:
100
75
26p
n/a
1.0
Soldier's Cleaver:
96
95
31c
n/a
1.5
Military Cleaver:
96
95
35c
n/a
1.5
Sarranid Sword:
99
97
26c
19p
1.5
Sarranid Arming Sword:
99
97
28c
19p
1.5
Sarranid Cavalry Sword:
98
105
28c
19p
1.5
Sarranid Guard Sword:
99
97
30c
20p
1.5
Iron Mace:
99
73
22b
n/a
2.0
Iron Battle Axe:
97
71
35c
n/a
1.75
Iron War Axe:
97
71
38c
n/a
1.75
Bastard Sword:
98
101
35c
26p
2.0
Heavy Bastard Sword:
97
105
37c
27p
2.25
Great Sword:
96
120
42c
29p
2.75
Two Handed Sword:
97
110
40c
28p
2.75
Bardiche:
91
102
47c
n/a
4.5
Great Bardiche:
89
116
50c
n/a
4.5
Two Handed Axe:
96
90
38c
n/a
4.5
Two Handed War Axe:
96
92
44c
n/a
4.5
Great Axe:
94
96
47c
n/a
4.5
Long Axe:
88
120
46c
n/a
4.5
Long War Axe:
87
125
50c
n/a
4.5
Great Long Axe:
85
127
54c
n/a
4.5
Shortened Voulge:
92
100
45c
n/a
4.5
Spiked Staff:
95
117
24b
20p
2.5
Maul:
83
79
36b
n/a
6
Sledgehammer:
81
82
39b
n/a
7
Morningstar:
95
85
38p
n/a
4.5
Great Hammer:
79
75
45b
n/a
9
War Cleaver:
93
120
45c
n/a
2.75
Shortened Military Scythe:
90
112
45c
n/a
3.0
Sarranid Battle Axe:
89
95
49c
n/a
3.0
Sarranid War Axe:
90
90
46c
n/a
3.0
Iron Mace:
90
95
35b
22b
4.5
Awlpike:
92
165
20b
33p
2.25
Long Awlpike:
89
185
20b
32p
2.25
Spear:
98
135
20b
26p
2.25
War Spear:
95
150
20b
27p
2.5
Long Hafted Spiked Mace:
94
140
28b
26b
2.5
Long Spiked Club:
96
126
23p
20b
2.5
Long Bardiche:
89
140
48c
17p
4.5
Great Long Bardiche:
88
155
50c
17p
5.0
Hafted Blade:
95
135
37c
20p
2.75
Hafted Blade:
93
153
39c
19p
3.25
Long Axe:
93
120
46c
19b
4.5
Long War Axe:
92
125
50c
18b
4.5
Great Long Axe:
88
155
50c
17p
4.5
Pike:
81
245
16b
26p
3.0
Ashwood Pike:
90
170
19b
29p
3.5
Glaive:
90
157
39c
21p
4.5
Bamboo Spear:
88
200
15b
20p
2.0
Light Lance:
85
175
16b
27p
2.5
Lance:
80
180
16b
26p
2.5
Heavy Lance:
75
190
16b
26p
2.75
Great Lance:
55
240
n/a
21p
5.0

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Alex_C · Jul 18, 2011

I did something like this a while ago for some reason, same information only organised into tables.

A comparison of each troop type: (Khergit Horse Archer goes in the Archer category)

KEY:

Italics means that this skill does not really apply to the troop.
Green means this troop has the most of this skill.
Orange means this troop has the second most of this skill.
Red means this troop has the third most of this skill.
Maroon means this troop has the fourth most of this skill.
Black means this troop has the fifth most of this skill.

Ranged:

	PD	IF	PS	HA	Sh	Melee	Arch	Xbow	Throw	Athletics
Vaegirs:	6	2	0	0	2	80	150	60	80	4
Nords:	5	2	2	0	2	90	150	60	80	4
Sarranids:	5	2	0	0	2	80	150	60	80	5
Khergits:	5	0	0	5	2	80	150	60	100	3
Swadians:	0	2	2	0	5	90	60	180	90	5
Rhodoks:	0	2	2	0	2	100	60	180	90	5

Cavalry:

	IF	PS	Rid	HA	PT	Sh	Melee	Arch	Xbow	Throw	Athletics
Vaegirs:	3	2	5	0	2	3	110	90	60	110	0
Nords:	2	2	6	2	3	1	105	105	105	105	3
Sarranids:	3	2	5	0	2	3	110	90	60	110	0
Khergits:	3	2	6	1	3	2	115	115	115	115	0
Swadians:	3	3	5	0	2	2	110	0	0	0	3
Rhodoks:	3	2	4	0	2	2	100	100	100	100	3

Infantry:

	IF	PS	PT	Sh	1h	2h	Pole	Arch	Xbow	Throw	Athletics
Vaegirs:	4	3	3	2	110	100	130	30	50	120	6
Nords:	4	5	4	3	110	135	100	40	60	140	6
Sarranids:	4	3	3	2	110	100	130	30	50	120	6
Swadians:	5	4	2	4	105	130	110	40	60	110	6
Rhodoks:	4	4	1	5	110	100	140	30	50	110	6

RalliX · Jul 18, 2011

That's a very good addition, thanks.

Yours is much better for comparison purposes, while mine seems to provide explicit and specific information on each class.

Alex_C · Jul 18, 2011

Oh, and weapons too (sorta related):

Ranged Weapons:

	Speed Rating	Thrust Attack	Shoot Speed	Max Ammo	Weight
Crossbow:	43	49p	66	n/a	3.0
Heavy Crossbow:	41	58p	68	n/a	3.5
Siege Crossbow:	37	63p	70	n/a	3.75

Short Bow:	97	18p	55	n/a	1.0
Nomad Bow:	94	20p	56	n/a	1.25
Khergit Bow:	90	21p	57	n/a	1.25
Long Bow:	79	22p	56	n/a	1.75
Strong Bow:	88	23p	58	n/a	1.25
War Bow:	84	25p	59	n/a	1.5

Darts:	95	22p	28	7	5.0
War Darts:	93	25p	27	7	5.0
Javelins:	91	34p	25	5	5.0
Light Throwing Axes:	99	35c	18	4	5.0
Throwing Axes:	98	39c	18	4	5.0
Heavy Throwing Axes:	97	44c	18	4	5.0
Throwing Spears:	87	44p	22	4	4.0
Jarids:	89	45p	24	4	4.0

Melee Weapons:

	Speed Rating	Length	Swing Attack	Thrust Attack	Weight
Sword:	99	95	27c	22p	1.5
Sword:	99	95	28c	23p	1.5
Short Sword:	102	85	26c	24p	1.5
Arming Sword:	99	95	29c	24p	1.5
Short Arming Sword:	103	86	26c	24p	1.5
Scimitar:	101	97	30c	n/a	1.5
Elite Scimitar:	100	103	32c	n/a	1.5
Spiked Club:	99	70	19b	n/a	1.5
Knobbed Mace:	98	70	21b	n/a	2.5
Spiked Mace:	98	70	32b	n/a	2.5
Winged Mace:	98	70	24b	n/a	2.5
Nomad Sabre:	100	97	29c	n/a	1.25
Sabre:	99	97	30c	n/a	1.5
Sabre:	99	98	31c	n/a	1.5
Heavy Sabre:	98	96	33c	n/a	1.75
One Handed Axe:	98	71	32c	n/a	1.5
One Handed War Axe:	98	76	34c	n/a	1.5
Nordic Sword:	99	94	28c	20p	1.5
Nordic Sword:	99	95	29c	21p	1.5
Nordic Short Sword:	103	85	28c	21p	1.25
Nordic War Sword:	99	95	30c	21p	1.5
Nordic Short War Sword:	103	86	29c	21p	1.25
One Handed Battle Axe:	98	73	34c	n/a	1.5
One Handed Battle Axe:	98	72	36c	n/a	1.75
One Handed Battle Axe:	98	76	37c	n/a	2.0
Fighting Pick:	98	70	22p	n/a	1.0
Military Pick:	97	70	31p	n/a	1.5
Military Sickle:	100	75	26p	n/a	1.0
Soldier's Cleaver:	96	95	31c	n/a	1.5
Military Cleaver:	96	95	35c	n/a	1.5
Sarranid Sword:	99	97	26c	19p	1.5
Sarranid Arming Sword:	99	97	28c	19p	1.5
Sarranid Cavalry Sword:	98	105	28c	19p	1.5
Sarranid Guard Sword:	99	97	30c	20p	1.5
Iron Mace:	99	73	22b	n/a	2.0
Iron Battle Axe:	97	71	35c	n/a	1.75
Iron War Axe:	97	71	38c	n/a	1.75

Bastard Sword:	98	101	35c	26p	2.0
Heavy Bastard Sword:	97	105	37c	27p	2.25
Great Sword:	96	120	42c	29p	2.75
Two Handed Sword:	97	110	40c	28p	2.75
Bardiche:	91	102	47c	n/a	4.5
Great Bardiche:	89	116	50c	n/a	4.5
Two Handed Axe:	96	90	38c	n/a	4.5
Two Handed War Axe:	96	92	44c	n/a	4.5
Great Axe:	94	96	47c	n/a	4.5
Long Axe:	88	120	46c	n/a	4.5
Long War Axe:	87	125	50c	n/a	4.5
Great Long Axe:	85	127	54c	n/a	4.5
Shortened Voulge:	92	100	45c	n/a	4.5
Spiked Staff:	95	117	24b	20p	2.5
Maul:	83	79	36b	n/a	6
Sledgehammer:	81	82	39b	n/a	7
Morningstar:	95	85	38p	n/a	4.5
Great Hammer:	79	75	45b	n/a	9
War Cleaver:	93	120	45c	n/a	2.75
Shortened Military Scythe:	90	112	45c	n/a	3.0
Sarranid Battle Axe:	89	95	49c	n/a	3.0
Sarranid War Axe:	90	90	46c	n/a	3.0
Iron Mace:	90	95	35b	22b	4.5

Awlpike:	92	165	20b	33p	2.25
Long Awlpike:	89	185	20b	32p	2.25
Spear:	98	135	20b	26p	2.25
War Spear:	95	150	20b	27p	2.5
Long Hafted Spiked Mace:	94	140	28b	26b	2.5
Long Spiked Club:	96	126	23p	20b	2.5
Long Bardiche:	89	140	48c	17p	4.5
Great Long Bardiche:	88	155	50c	17p	5.0
Hafted Blade:	95	135	37c	20p	2.75
Hafted Blade:	93	153	39c	19p	3.25
Long Axe:	93	120	46c	19b	4.5
Long War Axe:	92	125	50c	18b	4.5
Great Long Axe:	88	155	50c	17p	4.5
Pike:	81	245	16b	26p	3.0
Ashwood Pike:	90	170	19b	29p	3.5
Glaive:	90	157	39c	21p	4.5
Bamboo Spear:	88	200	15b	20p	2.0

Light Lance:	85	175	16b	27p	2.5
Lance:	80	180	16b	26p	2.5
Heavy Lance:	75	190	16b	26p	2.75
Great Lance:	55	240	n/a	21p	5.0

Skandinav · Jul 18, 2011

Thanks guys, its been many, many patches since I last checked the stats.

Alex_C · Jul 18, 2011

Angantyr said:
Thanks guys, its been many, many patches since I last checked the stats.

Some of mine might be slightly out of date, but should be pretty much correct.

Forgot ponies and shields ^_^

Shields:

	Speed Rating	Hit Points	Body Armour	Shield Height	Shield Width
Old Heater Shield:	96	160	6	70	36
Plain Heater Shield:	93	210	11	70	36
Heater Shield:	90	260	14	70	36
Heavy Heater Shield:	87	305	19	70	36

Old Kite Shield:	96	165	5	70	36
Plain Kite Shield:	93	215	10	70	36
Kite Shield:	90	265	13	70	36
Heavy Kite Shield:	87	310	18	70	36

Horseman's Kite Shield:	103	165	14	50	30
Knightly Kite Shield:	100	225	23	50	30

Plain Cavalry Shield:	105	160	8	n/a	40
Round Cavalry Shield:	103	200	14	n/a	40
Elite Cavalry Shield:	100	250	22	n/a	40

Old Round Shield:	93	195	4	n/a	50
Plain Round Shield:	90	260	8	n/a	50
Round Shield:	87	310	12	n/a	50
Heavy Round Shield:	84	350	15	n/a	50
Huscarl's Round Shield:	81	410	19	n/a	50

Old Board Shield:	89	280	4	100	43
Plain Board Shield:	85	360	8	100	43
Board Shield:	81	430	10	100	43
Heavy Board Shield:	78	550	14	100	43

Horseman's Heater Shield:	103	160	16	50	30
Knightly Heater Shield:	100	220	23	50	30

Ponies:

	Hit Points	Body Armour	Horse Speed	Horse Maneuver	Horse Charge
Saddle Horse:	100	8	45	44	10
Courser:	110	12	50	44	12
Hunter:	160	18	43	44	24
War Horse:	165	40	40	41	28
Charger:	165	58	40	44	32
Steppe Charger:	150	40	40	50	28
Steppe Horse:	120	10	40	51	8
Desert Horse:	110	10	42	50	12
Sarranid Horse:	120	10	43	54	16
Sarranian War Horse:	165	58	40	44	32

McBeverage · Jul 18, 2011

During the beta someone (forget who, except for the fact that he was an admin of the official servers) compiled a list like this. Quite handy stuff, man!

RalliX · Jul 18, 2011

Whoa! So much text man! I can't fit it all. It's above the 40,000 character limit.
Did you compile all that manually?

Edit: Might it be possible for you to fit all three of those charts of yours into the 1st reply, Alex?

Greedalicious · Jul 19, 2011

This is great,thanks guys!

Now to memorize this....oh crap

Harkon Haakonson · Jul 19, 2011

This is very very good, thanks a lot guys!

I have a question though, that will make me look like a complete noob... Do shield actually give static body armor, as torso armor and gloves would? ;O
If so, is this body armor only given when you're holding the shield along with the 1 handed weapon of choice, does the shield have to be up?

CommissarK · Jul 19, 2011

I've looked over all of these stats and I've seen them posted before, but this format is very user friendly.

As a comment, I'd like to point out that the skill points/attributes and proficiencies are only a part of of the balance picture- skill point distribution and equipment must also be factored in to the overall faction balance. For example, Sarranids and Vaegirs have an equivalent amount of proficiencies and skill points, and the distribution of these is relatively similar.

Vaegir equipment however far outclasses Sarranid equipment in almost every way, with better bows available to their archers to dedicated two-handed weapons like the hafted spiked mace and Great long Bardiche for their infantry. Couple these things with a strong one hander like the elite scimitar and a reasonably tiered armor system for all of their classes, and you see that the Sarranids are unable to consistently bring the same amount of firepower to the battle. Their minor advantages in throwing weaponry and cav equipment is insufficient to make them competitive against vaegirs in a clan vs clan setting.

KoA John · Jul 19, 2011

Noob question

Where can I find these? in a script? or what is the file name?

MadocComadrin · Jul 19, 2011

Download the module system and look in module_troops.py

captain lust · Jul 19, 2011

Might as well dump my progress here, as well. Kind of bailed on it, after starting the league. Anyone is welcome to use it. It is quite clear to see which parts are unfinished. Not sure which parts are outdated... with the latest patch etc.

Greetings Warband players,

I have decided to make this thread, in order to improve the accessibility of multiplayer troop information to the community. The stats are all taken from the latest module system (v1.134) and should be accurate. If you spot something which you know to be false, please notify me and I can rectify it. The data has been crudely colour coded, to give some improved visual information. You may be surprised at some of the values...

Lvl - Level
Str - Strength
Irn - Ironflesh
P Str - Power Strike
P Drw - Power Draw
P Thr - Power Throw
Rid - Riding
Ath - Athletics
Shd - Shield
Hs A - Horse Archery
W. Profs - Weapon proficiencies (one-handed, two-handed, polearm, archery, crossbow, throwing)

Troop	Lvl	Str	Irn	P Str	P Drw	P Thr	Rid	Ath	Shd	Hs A	W. Profs

Khergit Horse Archer	21	14	0	0	5	0	6	3	2	5	80 ,80 ,80 ,150,60 ,100
Khergit Lancer	21	14	3	2	0	3	6	5	2	1	115,115,115,115,115,115

Troop	Lvl	Str	Irn	P Str	P Drw	P Thr	Rid	Ath	Shd	Hs A	W. Profs

Nord Archer	15	11	2	2	5	0	1	4	2	0	90 ,90 ,90 ,150,60 ,80
Nord Huscarl	24	14	4	5	0	4	1	6	3	0	110,135,100,40 ,60 ,140
Nord Scout	19	14	2	2	0	3	6	3	1	2	105,105,105,105,105,105

Troop	Lvl	Str	Irn	P Str	P Drw	P Thr	Rid	Ath	Shd	Hs A	W. Profs

Rhodok Crossbowman	20	14	2	2	0	0	1	5	2	0	100,100,100,60 ,180,90
Rhodok Sergeant	20	14	4	4	0	1	1	6	5	0	110,100,140,30 ,50 ,110
Rhodok Horseman	20	14	3	2	0	1	4	3	2	0	100,100,100,100,100,100

Troop	Lvl	Str	Irn	P Str	P Drw	P Thr	Rid	Ath	Shd	Hs A	W. Profs

Sarranid Archer	19	12	2	0	5	0	1	5	2	0	80 ,80 ,80 ,150,60 ,80
Sarranid Footman	19	12	4	3	0	3	1	6	2	0	110,100,130,30 ,50 ,120
Sarranid Mamluke	19	14	3	2	0	2	5	0	3	0	110,110,110,90 ,60 ,110

Troop	Lvl	Str	Irn	P Str	P Drw	P Thr	Rid	Ath	Shd	Hs A	W. Profs

Swadian Crossbowman	19	14	2	2	0	0	1	5	5	0	90 ,90 ,90 ,60 ,180,90
Swadian Infantry	20	14	5	4	0	2	1	6	4	0	105,130,110,40 ,60 ,110
Swadian Man at Arms	20	14	3	3	0	2	5	3	2	0	130,110,120,? ,? ,?

Troop	Lvl	Str	Irn	P Str	P Drw	P Thr	Rid	Ath	Shd	Hs A	W. Profs

Vaegir Archer	19	12	2	0	6	0	1	4	2	0	80 ,80 ,80 ,150,60 ,80
Vaegir Spearman	19	12	4	3	0	3	1	6	2	0	110,100,130,30 ,50 ,120
Vaegir Horseman	19	14	3	2	0	2	5	0	3	0	110,110,110,90 ,60 ,110

Swadia

Swadian Infantry

Armor

Arming Cap Buying Price: 5 Weight: 1.0 +7 Head Armor	Helmet with Cap Buying Price: 147 Weight: 1.3 +28 Head Armor	Helmet with Neckguard Buying Price: 190 Weight: 1.5 +32 Head Armor	Flat Topped Helmet Buying Price: 203 Weight: 1.8 +33 Head Armor	Guard Helmet Buying Price: 555 Weight: 2.5 +47 Head Armor	Great Helmet Buying Price: 980 Weight: 2.8 +53 Head Armor
Red Tunic Buying Price: Free Weight: 1.0 +7 Body Armor +1 Leg Armor	Leather Armor Buying Price: 65 Weight: 7.0 +18 Body Armor	Red Gambeson Buying Price: 275 Weight: 5.0 +21 Body Armor +5 Leg Armor	Haubergeon Buying Price: 863 Weight: 18.0 +41 Body Armor +6 Leg Armor	Brigandine Buying Price: 1830 Weight: 19.0 +46 Body Armor +12 Leg Armor
Ankle Boots Buying Price: Free Weight: 1.0 +12 Leg Armor	Leather Boots Buying Price: 174 Weight: 1.3 +16 Leg Armor	Mail Chasses Buying Price: 530 Weight: 3.0 +24 Leg Armor	Splinted Greaves Buying Price: 853 Weight: 3.5 +28 Leg Armor
Leather Gloves Buying Price: 90 Weight: 0.3 +2 Body Armor	Mail Mittens Buying Price: 350 Weight: 0.5 +4 Body Armor	Scale Gauntlets Buying Price: 710 Weight: 0.8 +5 Body Armor	Gauntlets Buying Price: 1040 Weight: 1.0 +6 Body Armor

Swadian Crossbowman

Armor

Arming Cap Buying Price: 5 Weight: 1.0 +7 Head Armor	Helmet with Cap Buying Price: 147 Weight: 1.3 +28 Head Armor	Helmet with Neckguard Buying Price: 190 Weight: 1.5 +32 Head Armor	Flat Topped Helmet Buying Price: 203 Weight: 1.8 +33 Head Armor	Guard Helmet Buying Price: 555 Weight: 2.5 +47 Head Armor
Red Shirt Buying Price: Free Weight: 1.0 +7 Body Armor +1 Leg Armor	Leather Armor Buying Price: 65 Weight: 7.0 +18 Body Armor	Aketon Buying Price: 297 Weight: 11.0 +22 Body Armor +6 Leg Armor	Haubergeon Buying Price: 863 Weight: 18.0 +41 Body Armor +6 Leg Armor
Ankle Boots Buying Price: Free Weight: 1.0 +12 Leg Armor	Leather Boots Buying Price: 174 Weight: 1.3 +16 Leg Armor	Mail Chasses Buying Price: 530 Weight: 3.0 +24 Leg Armor
Leather Gloves Buying Price: 90 Weight: 0.3 +2 Body Armor

Swadian Man at Arms

Armor

Arming Cap Buying Price: 5 Weight: 1.0 +7 Head Armor	Helmet with Cap Buying Price: 147 Weight: 1.3 +28 Head Armor	Helmet with Neckguard Buying Price: 190 Weight: 1.5 +32 Head Armor	Flat Topped Helmet Buying Price: 203 Weight: 1.8 +33 Head Armor	Guard Helmet Buying Price: 555 Weight: 2.5 +47 Head Armor	Great Helmet Buying Price: 980 Weight: 2.8 +53 Head Armor
Red Tunic Buying Price: Free Weight: 1.0 +7 Body Armor +1 Leg Armor	Leather Armor Buying Price: 65 Weight: 7.0 +18 Body Armor	Aketon Buying Price: 297 Weight: 11.0 +22 Body Armor +6 Leg Armor	Mail with Surcoat Buying Price: 1544 Weight: 22.0 +42 Body Armor +14 Leg Armor	Coat of Plates Buying Price: 3828 Weight: 25.0 +52 Body Armor +16 Leg Armor
Ankle Boots Buying Price: Free Weight: 1.0 +12 Leg Armor	Leather Boots Buying Price: 174 Weight: 1.3 +16 Leg Armor	Mail Chasses Buying Price: 530 Weight: 3.0 +24 Leg Armor	Splinted Greaves Buying Price: 853 Weight: 3.5 +28 Leg Armor	Plate Boots Buying Price: 1770 Weight: 3.5 +33 Leg Armor
Leather Gloves Buying Price: 90 Weight: 0.3 +2 Body Armor	Mail Mittens Buying Price: 350 Weight: 0.5 +4 Body Armor	Scale Gauntlets Buying Price: 710 Weight: 0.8 +5 Body Armor	Gauntlets Buying Price: 1040 Weight: 1.0 +6 Body Armor
Saddle Horse Buying Price: 240 Armor: 8 Speed: 45 Maneuver: 44 Charge: 10 Hit Points: 100	Courser Buying Price: 600 Armor: 12 Speed: 50 Maneuver: 44 Charge: 12 Hit Points: 110	Hunter Buying Price: 810 Armor: 18 Speed: 43 Maneuver: 44 Charge: 24 Hit Points: 160	War Horse Buying Price: 1224 Armor: 40 Speed: 40 Maneuver: 41 Charge: 28 Hit Points: 165	Charger Buying Price: 1811 Armor: 58 Speed: 40 Maneuver: 44 Charge: 32 Hit Points: 165

captain lust · Jul 19, 2011

Double post for character limit.

Rhodoks

Rhodok Sergeant

Armor

Padded Coif Buying Price: 6 Weight: 1.0 +11 Head Armor	Leather Cap Buying Price: 6 Weight: 1.0 +10 Head Armor	Footman's Helmet Buying Price: 95 Weight: 1.5 +24 Head Armor	Kettle Hat Buying Price: 240 Weight: 1.8 +35 Head Armor	Bascinet with Aventail Buying Price: 479 Weight: 2.3 +45 Head Armor	Full Helm Buying Price: 811 Weight: 2.5 +51 Head Armor
Green Tunic Buying Price: Free Weight: 1.0 +7 Body Armor +1 Leg Armor	Leather Armor Buying Price: 64 Weight: 7.0 +18 Body Armor	Padded Cloth Buying Price: 297 Weight: 11.0 +22 Body Armor +6 Leg Armor	Ragged Outfit Buying Price: 390 Weight: 7.0 +23 Body Armor +9 Leg Armor	Surcoat over Mail Buying Price: 1720 Weight: 22.0 +43 Body Armor +14 Leg Armor
Ankle Boots Buying Price: Free Weight: 1.0 +12 Leg Armor	Leather Boots Buying Price: 174 Weight: 1.3 +16 Leg Armor	Splinted Greaves Buying Price: 853 Weight: 3.5 +28 Leg Armor	Iron Greaves Buying Price: 1770 Weight: 3.5 +33 Leg Armor
Leather Gloves Buying Price: 90 Weight: 0.3 +2 Body Armor	Mail Mittens Buying Price: 350 Weight: 0.5 +4 Body Armor	Scale Gauntlets Buying Price: 710 Weight: 0.8 +5 Body Armor	Gauntlets Buying Price: 1040 Weight: 1.0 +6 Body Armor

Rhodok Crossbowman

Armor

Padded Coif Buying Price: 6 Weight: 1.0 +11 Head Armor	Leather Cap Buying Price: 6 Weight: 1.0 +10 Head Armor	Footman's Helmet Buying Price: 95 Weight: 1.5 +24 Head Armor	Kettle Hat Buying Price: 240 Weight: 1.8 +35 Head Armor
Tunic with Green Cape Buying Price: Free Weight: 1.0 +6 Body Armor +2 Leg Armor	Leather Armor Buying Price: 64 Weight: 7.0 +18 Body Armor	Padded Cloth Buying Price: 297 Weight: 11.0 +22 Body Armor +6 Leg Armor
Ankle Boots Buying Price: Free Weight: 1.0 +12 Leg Armor	Leather Boots Buying Price: 174 Weight: 1.3 +16 Leg Armor	Splinted Greaves Buying Price: 853 Weight: 3.5 +28 Leg Armor
Leather Gloves Buying Price: 90 Weight: 0.3 +2 Body Armor

Rhodok Horseman

Armor

Padded Coif Buying Price: 6 Weight: 1.0 +11 Head Armor	Footman's Helmet Buying Price: 95 Weight: 1.5 +24 Head Armor	Kettle Hat Buying Price: 240 Weight: 1.8 +35 Head Armor	Bascinet with Noseguard Buying Price: 479 Weight: 2.3 +45 Head Armor
Green Tunic Buying Price: Free Weight: 1.0 +7 Body Armor +1 Leg Armor	Leather Armor Buying Price: 64 Weight: 7.0 +18 Body Armor	Padded Cloth Buying Price: 297 Weight: 11.0 +22 Body Armor +6 Leg Armor	Ragged Outfit Buying Price: 390 Weight: 7.0 +23 Body Armor +9 Leg Armor	Surcoat over Mail Buying Price: 1720 Weight: 22.0 +43 Body Armor +14 Leg Armor
Ankle Boots Buying Price: Free Weight: 1.0 +12 Leg Armor	Leather Boots Buying Price: 174 Weight: 1.3 +16 Leg Armor	Splinted Greaves Buying Price: 853 Weight: 3.5 +28 Leg Armor	Plate Boots Buying Price: 1770 Weight: 3.5 +33 Leg Armor
Leather Gloves Buying Price: 90 Weight: 0.3 +2 Body Armor	Mail Mittens Buying Price: 350 Weight: 0.5 +4 Body Armor	Scale Gauntlets Buying Price: 710 Weight: 0.8 +5 Body Armor	Gauntlets Buying Price: 1040 Weight: 1.0 +6 Body Armor
Saddle Horse Buying Price: 240 Armor: 8 Speed: 45 Maneuver: 44 Charge: 10 Hit Points: 100	Courser Buying Price: 600 Armor: 12 Speed: 50 Maneuver: 44 Charge: 12 Hit Points: 110	Hunter Buying Price: 810 Armor: 18 Speed: 43 Maneuver: 44 Charge: 24 Hit Points: 160	War Horse Buying Price: 1224 Armor: 40 Speed: 40 Maneuver: 41 Charge: 28 Hit Points: 165

Vaegirs

Vaegir Spearman

Armor

Cap with Fur Buying Price: 50 Weight: 2.0 +15 Head Armor	Vaegir Helmet Buying Price: 110 Weight: 2.0 +21 Head Armor	Spiked Cap Buying Price: 230 Weight: 2.0 +32 Head Armor	Helmet with Lamellar Guard Buying Price: 360 Weight: 2.0 +38 Head Armor	Vaegir Nobleman Helmet Buying Price: 710 Weight: 2.0 +45 Head Armor	Vaegir War Helmet Buying Price: 820 Weight: 2.0 +47 Head Armor
Linen Tunic Buying Price: Free Weight: 1.0 +6 Body Armor +1 Leg Armor	Leather Vest Buying Price: 146 Weight: 4.0 +15 Body Armor +7 Leg Armor	Leather Jerkin Buying Price: 321 Weight: 6.0 +23 Body Armor +6 Leg Armor	Lamellar Vest Buying Price: 970 Weight: 18.0 +40 Body Armor +8 Leg Armor	Lamellar Armor Buying Price: 2410 Weight: 25.0 +48 Body Armor +13 Leg Armor	Vaegir Elite Armor Buying Price: 3828 Weight: 25.0 +52 Body Armor +16 Leg Armor
Hide Boots Buying Price: Free Weight: 1.0 +10 Leg Armor	Nomad Boots Buying Price: 174 Weight: 1.3 +14 Leg Armor	Splinted Leather Greaves Buying Price: 310 Weight: 3.0 +21 Leg Armor	Splinted Greaves Buying Price: 853 Weight: 3.5 +28 Leg Armor
Leather Gloves Buying Price: 90 Weight: 0.3 +2 Body Armor	Mail Mittens Buying Price: 350 Weight: 0.5 +4 Body Armor	Scale Gauntlets Buying Price: 710 Weight: 0.8 +5 Body Armor

Vaegir Archer

Armor

Cap with Fur Buying Price: 50 Weight: 2.0 +15 Head Armor	Vaegir Helmet Buying Price: 110 Weight: 2.0 +21 Head Armor	Spiked Cap Buying Price: 230 Weight: 2.0 +32 Head Armor	Helmet with Lamellar Guard Buying Price: 360 Weight: 2.0 +38 Head Armor
Linen Tunic Buying Price: Free Weight: 1.0 +6 Body Armor +1 Leg Armor	Leather Vest Buying Price: 146 Weight: 4.0 +15 Body Armor +7 Leg Armor	Leather Jerkin Buying Price: 321 Weight: 6.0 +23 Body Armor +6 Leg Armor	Lamellar Vest Buying Price: 970 Weight: 18.0 +40 Body Armor +8 Leg Armor
Hide Boots Buying Price: Free Weight: 1.0 +10 Leg Armor	Nomad Boots Buying Price: 174 Weight: 1.3 +14 Leg Armor	Splinted Leather Greaves Buying Price: 310 Weight: 3.0 +21 Leg Armor

Vaegir Horseman

Armor

Cap with Fur
Buying Price: 50
Weight: 2.0
+15 Head Armor

Vaegir Helmet
Buying Price: 110
Weight: 2.0
+21 Head Armor

Spiked Cap
Buying Price: 230
Weight: 2.0
+32 Head Armor

Helmet with Lamellar Guard
Buying Price: 360
Weight: 2.0
+38 Head Armor

Vaegir Nobleman Helmet
Buying Price: 710
Weight: 2.0
+45 Head Armor

Vaegir War Helmet
Buying Price: 820
Weight: 2.0
+47 Head Armor

Vaegir War Mask
Buying Price: 950
Weight: 2.0
+52 Head Armor

Linen Tunic
Buying Price: Free
Weight: 1.0
+6 Body Armor
+1 Leg Armor

Leather Vest
Buying Price: 146
Weight: 4.0
+15 Body Armor
+7 Leg Armor

Studded Leather Coat
Buying Price: 690
Weight: 14.0
+36 Body Armor
+10 Leg Armor

Lamellar Vest
Buying Price: 970
Weight: 18.0
+40 Body Armor
+8 Leg Armor

Lamellar Armor
Buying Price: 2410
Weight: 25.0
+48 Body Armor
+13 Leg Armor

Vaegir Elite Armor
Buying Price: 3828
Weight: 25.0
+52 Body Armor
+16 Leg Armor

Hide Boots
Buying Price: Free
Weight: 1.0
+10 Leg Armor

Nomad Boots
Buying Price: 174
Weight: 1.3
+14 Leg Armor

Splinted Leather Greaves
Buying Price: 310
Weight: 3.0
+21 Leg Armor

Splinted Greaves
Buying Price: 853
Weight: 3.5
+28 Leg Armor

Plate Boots
Buying Price: 1770
Weight: 3.5
+33 Leg Armor

Leather Gloves
Buying Price: 90
Weight: 0.3
+2 Body Armor

Mail Mittens
Buying Price: 350
Weight: 0.5
+4 Body Armor

Scale Gauntlets
Buying Price: 710
Weight: 0.8
+5 Body Armor

Saddle Horse
Buying Price: 240
Armor: 8
Speed: 45
Maneuver: 44
Charge: 10
Hit Points: 100

Courser
Buying Price: 600
Armor: 12
Speed: 50
Maneuver: 44
Charge: 12
Hit Points: 110

Hunter
Buying Price: 810
Armor: 18
Speed: 43
Maneuver: 44
Charge: 24
Hit Points: 160

Steppe Charger
Buying Price: 1400
Armor: 40
Speed: 40
Maneuver: 50
Charge: 28
Hit Points: 150

Khergits

Khergit Lancer

Armor

Steppe Cap Buying Price: Free Weight: 1.0 +12 Head Armor	Nomad Cap Buying Price: 6 Weight: 0.8 +13 Head Armor	Steppe Cap Buying Price: 14 Weight: 1.0 +16 Head Armor	Steppe Cap Buying Price: 36 Weight: 1.0 +14 Head Armor	Khergit War Helmet Buying Price: 200 Weight: 2.0 +31 Head Armor	Khergit Guard Helmet Buying Price: 433 Weight: 2.0 +40 Head Armor
Khergit Armor Buying Price: Free Weight: 2.0 +24	Steppe Armor Buying Price: 195 Weight: 5.0 +16 Body Armor +8 Leg Armor	Tribal Warrior Outfit Buying Price: 520 Weight: 14.0 +30 Body Armor +10 Leg Armor	Lamellar Armor Buying Price: 2410 Weight: 25.0 +48 Body Armor +13 Leg Armor	Khergit Elite Armor Buying Price: 3828 Weight: 25.0 +52 Body Armor +16 Leg Armor
Hide Boots Buying Price: Free Weight: 1.0 +10 Leg Armor	Nomad Boots Buying Price: 90 Weight: 1.3 +14 Leg Armor	Khergit Leather Boots Buying Price: 120 Weight: 1.0 +18 Leg Armor	Splinted Leather Greaves Buying Price: 310 Weight: 3.0 +21 Leg Armor	Splinted Greaves Buying Price: 853 Weight: 3.5 +28 Leg Armor
Leather Gloves Buying Price: 90 Weight: 0.3 +2 Body Armor	Mail Mittens Buying Price: 350 Weight: 0.5 +4 Body Armor	Scale Gauntlets Buying Price: 710 Weight: 0.8 +5 Body Armor	Lamellar Gauntlets Buying Price: 910 Weight: 0.5 +5 Body Armor
Steppe Horse Buying Price: 192 Armor: 10 Speed: 40 Maneuver: 51 Charge: 8 Hit Points: 120	Courser Buying Price: 600 Armor: 12 Speed: 50 Maneuver: 44 Charge: 12 Hit Points: 110	Hunter Buying Price: 810 Armor: 18 Speed: 43 Maneuver: 44 Charge: 24 Hit Points: 160	Steppe Charger Buying Price: 1400 Armor: 40 Speed: 40 Maneuver: 50 Charge: 28 Hit Points: 150

Khergit Horse Archer

Armor

Steppe Cap Buying Price: Free Weight: 1.0 +12 Head Armor	Nomad Cap Buying Price: 6 Weight: 0.8 +13 Head Armor	Steppe Cap Buying Price: 14 Weight: 1.0 +16 Head Armor	Steppe Cap Buying Price: 36 Weight: 1.0 +14 Head Armor
Khergit Armor Buying Price: Free Weight: 2.0 +24	Steppe Armor Buying Price: 195 Weight: 5.0 +16 Body Armor +8 Leg Armor	Tribal Warrior Outfit Buying Price: 520 Weight: 14.0 +30 Body Armor +10 Leg Armor	Lamellar Vest Buying Price: 970 Weight: 18.0 +40 Body Armor +8 Leg Armor
Hide Boots Buying Price: Free Weight: 1.0 +10 Leg Armor	Nomad Boots Buying Price: 90 Weight: 1.3 +14 Leg Armor	Khergit Leather Boots Buying Price: 120 Weight: 1.0 +18 Leg Armor	Splinted Leather Greaves Buying Price: 310 Weight: 3.0 +21 Leg Armor	Splinted Greaves Buying Price: 853 Weight: 3.5 +28 Leg Armor
Leather Gloves Buying Price: 90 Weight: 0.3 +2 Body Armor
Steppe Horse Buying Price: 192 Armor: 10 Speed: 40 Maneuver: 51 Charge: 8 Hit Points: 120

RalliX · Jul 19, 2011

HarkonHakoon said:
This is very very good, thanks a lot guys!

I have a question though, that will make me look like a complete noob... Do shield actually give static body armor, as torso armor and gloves would? ;O
If so, is this body armor only given when you're holding the shield along with the 1 handed weapon of choice, does the shield have to be up?

The 'body armour'/resistance of a shield, is literally, the armour of the shield itself. It negates damage from going directly to the shield's health, unless the damage is greater than the armour. An axe's 'bonus against shields' flag, means that it completely ignores the resistance/body armour of a shield, as is why shields are so easy to hack apart with axes, unless it's a board shield, which is more of a 'less armour, more mass' shield. More HP, less resistance, greater coverage.

CommissarK said:
I've looked over all of these stats and I've seen them posted before, but this format is very user friendly.

As a comment, I'd like to point out that the skill points/attributes and proficiencies are only a part of of the balance picture- skill point distribution and equipment must also be factored in to the overall faction balance. For example, Sarranids and Vaegirs have an equivalent amount of proficiencies and skill points, and the distribution of these is relatively similar.

Vaegir equipment however far outclasses Sarranid equipment in almost every way, with better bows available to their archers to dedicated two-handed weapons like the hafted spiked mace and Great long Bardiche for their infantry. Couple these things with a strong one hander like the elite scimitar and a reasonably tiered armor system for all of their classes, and you see that the Sarranids are unable to consistently bring the same amount of firepower to the battle. Their minor advantages in throwing weaponry and cav equipment is insufficient to make them competitive against vaegirs in a clan vs clan setting.

Yet why is it the Vaegirs always seem equal to the Sarranids, to me that is.
I'm afraid you're forgetting something very important friend.

There are large differences between how, why, and what equipment & classes are used in Clan matches versus public games.
In public games, you see people running around like fools to the slaughter with two-handed weapons, no tactics, and no coordination between team-mates.

This is not the case in Clan matches.
In a clan vs clan fight, both teams generally have centralized command over their infantry, archers, and cavalry, and constant lookout for enemies. Often the two forces can't/won't get near enough to each other to truly duke it out, and will instead skirmish with eachother until a flag comes around, at which point they have a true goal for victory.
When you have centralized command over skilled cavalry & archers, any two-handed infantry, or out-in-the-open archer/cavalry will be engaged and likely killed the moment they make the mistake of attacking. Infantry work together and rely on shield tactics, spear & heavy weapons teamwork, and support from the other two classes in order to achieve victory.

So, what goes on in a public TDM server(or indeed a public battle server), and what happens in a clan battle are two very different things, simply because one is based on teamwork, and the other the cumulative total amount of individual skill. What works in 1v1 combat and team-based combat are not the same, in fact, they are almost opposite.
A spear & shield is not seen in much use against infantry on public servers, because alone it is virtually useless to keep jabbing away at someone. In a clan battle, a good spearman in the group can make the big difference...

Okay, to sum up what I mean: Sarranids have as good or better team-based equipment as the Vaegirs. Maybe not individual weapons, but certainly jarids and long spears with one-handed axes. Sarranid archers are meant to be highly mobile, and more useful in coordinated attack than Vaegir archers, having higher athletics and faster-firing bows. Again, this can be more useful to a team than fewer, high damage shots.

MadocComadrin · Jul 19, 2011

Do we know how level affects skills and proficiencies?

Harkon Haakonson · Jul 19, 2011

Ah thanks for clarying Rallix. I knew what the Resistance was of the shield was, yeah, I just got confused to see "Body Armor" in the stats list, my bad for not thinking what else it could mean. :oops:

Though I didn't know the bonus against shield trait meant that it completely ignored resistance! Good to know. ^^

RalliX · Jul 19, 2011

MadocComadrin said:
Do we know how level affects skills and proficiencies?

I shouldn't think it has any effect, in multiplayer that is. In singleplayer, having a high level unit with poor stats means the unit could generate some increase in stats, calculated with some random/unknown formula, giving boosts in attribute and skill points. I don't know why.
Truth be told, I wouldn't know for certain if it does affect multiplay, and how far reaching these unit stat alterations extend.

For example: Sometimes you may notice that Swadian Knights differ in random small amounts of skill or attribute points when you look at them in Singleplayer. Yet in truth, they have all have one template. I don't know if this random stat change affects the entire group of Knights, the individual one I'm looking at, or if they even affect all Swadian Knights!

This is a grey area that I've been confused by ever since I started doing stuff with troop templates. I would really like it if a modder experienced in that area, or even better, a developer could explain this phenomena, and if it might have any detrimental effects on multiplayer gameplay.

MadocComadrin · Jul 19, 2011

I was aware of what happens in single-player (along with level being the pretty much the only trait taken into account for autoresolve), I was wondering if that took place in MP as well. It would be interesting if it did, but like you said, the probability is that it doesn't.

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