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Is Fire & Sword Better Than Warband ?

Yes it is
94 (9.1%)
No its not
331 (32.2%)
Yes ill be playing Fire and Sword alot more than Warband
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No ill be playing Warband alot more than Fire and Sword
273 (26.5%)
Im not sure im 50/50
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Re: Fire & Sword Better Than Warband ?
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2011, 11:25:15 PM »
Dunno about single player cuz I haven't played it long enough, but WFaS multiplayer is one massive improvement over Warband.
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Re: Fire & Sword Better Than Warband ?
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2011, 11:25:56 PM »
I prefer Warband over fire and sword for the same reason I prefer native over the Mount & Musket mod.
I simply prefer the weaponry of Warband.

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Re: Fire & Sword Better Than Warband ?
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2011, 11:26:30 PM »
Fire and Sword is awesome, been playing it nonstop since I got it.  Obviously its basically an expanded Warband so you cant really say its better than Warband, but its new and fresh so Ill definitely be playing this more than warband for the time being.

Probably wont be going back to Warband 1 player, not so sure about multiplayer either...I think I would miss carrying 3 guns  :mrgreen:.  Very happy with Fire and Sword so far.

FWaS is NOT an 'expanded' warband.

It's more like an alternate upgrade from Vanilla. So much missing features that they could've just copypasta'd from Warband, so much things are done in a sloppy way, it's safe to say this game is the biggest disappointment of the year so far.

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Re: Fire & Sword Better Than Warband ?
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2011, 11:27:11 PM »
I only like the added gameplay!

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Re: Fire & Sword Better Than Warband ?
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2011, 11:27:37 PM »
Obviously its basically an expanded Warband
I love how they expanded it by taking out ruling your own kingdom, playing a female character, removing tournaments and "un-polishing" the game.

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Okay, it's not better, but then, it's not supposed to be.
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2011, 11:41:43 PM »
I see this as an expansion in the possibilities for Warband Mods. Frankly, I'm thinking it's about time for a rollicking, musketeer-style adventure, complete with the romance possibilities, the dalliances, the resulting duels with cuckolded husbands and jealous other would-be lovers. The English, the French, the Spanish, etc., I hope the creators keep the scripting of the various elements available, because combined, Warband and F&S would be awesome, by themselves... not so much. 
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Re: Okay, it's not better, but then, it's not supposed to be.
« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2011, 11:45:01 PM »
I see this as an expansion in the possibilities for Warband Mods. Frankly, I'm thinking it's about time for a rollicking, musketeer-style adventure, complete with the romance possibilities, the dalliances, the resulting duels with cuckolded husbands and jealous other would-be lovers. The English, the French, the Spanish, etc., I hope the creators keep the scripting of the various elements available, because combined, Warband and F&S would be awesome, by themselves... not so much.
  Great idea.

Obviously its basically an expanded Warband
I love how they expanded it by taking out ruling your own kingdom, playing a female character, removing tournaments and "un-polishing" the game.
They took out the ability to rule your own kingdom!? laaaaame.  That was my entire motive for warband and the original SP.

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Re: Fire & Sword Better Than Warband ?
« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2011, 11:47:03 PM »
Why on earth have they taken out those features?
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Re: Fire & Sword Better Than Warband ?
« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2011, 11:47:25 PM »
About the "missing features from Warband"-thing:
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Q: Is it the same game that was released in Eastern Europe?
A: Quote from Mikail Yazbeck: "It was actually released twice over there. The most recent release is this new version of the game that’s been made in the Warband engine(which we’ve since polished even more for the international release). And the first release was inside of the Mount & Blade 1 engine and was released in between M&B 1 and M&B:Warband, but only in Eastern Europe. That older version of course didn’t have all the features that this version has, but was demanded enough for us(and by us I mean Sich Studios/Snowberry along with TaleWorlds) to want to remake it using the Warband engine and bring to an international audience."
Maybe they just didn't include all the features of the (later released) Warband?


To the topic:
I definately am disappointed. Simply replacing Crossbows with guns doesn't make sense. It gives the feeling that they somehow just forgot some part of their technology (they still have bows though!).
Compared to Warband I see this as a small step back. But just a small one: After all it has some nice features I've been missing in Warband: cattle following you, talking directly to the elder and stuff like that. Sure, there are mods, but there will also be mods for this one....

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Re: Fire & Sword Better Than Warband ?
« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2011, 11:54:29 PM »
Crossbows did die out long before bows thanks to firearms. Bows only really stuck around due to tradition. When it came to armies though, why would you give your recruits a crossbow if you could give them a musket?
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Re: Fire & Sword Better Than Warband ?
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2011, 12:10:09 AM »
No, it's a pile of crap.

It's like a massive downgrade from Warband, or even the original MB.

It's painful to play.

 :shock: Umm what a nice review
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Re: Fire & Sword Better Than Warband ?
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2011, 12:12:53 AM »
tialexandre...you do realize your point that people don't have the right to be critical is equally as absurd as those who expected something the game was not intended to be? I mean, you know that, right?



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Re: Fire & Sword Better Than Warband ?
« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2011, 12:56:37 AM »
I prefer Warband I only really play duels and occasionally battles, which is arguably a small portion of the player base. The Fire and Sword melee combat feels clumsy and shallow when compared to Warbands. Two-handers and pole-arms are insanely slow (I'm a fan of game-play over realism), they all swing like great mauls. Chambers are just odd now, due to slow weapon speeds they don't look like counter-attacks at all. Two handers and polearms also seem to bounce off armour more often than in Warband, though still less than one handers. One hander combat doesn't seem as bad, although due to some odd shapes and phantom reach it's far from ideal. I was thinking many of these oddities might of occurred because they were attempting to make musket melee combat viable? I could get used to dueling with one handers in F&S, but I don't see why I'd want to, when I can simply duel in Warband - where there are three viable classes of dueling weapons.

I understand I represent a small part of the player-base, but I don't understand many of the changes made to combat mechanics. What's great about Warband is that you don't need mode specific weapons, the game is well balanced so most weapons will work for most modes, and the depth of combat achievable in duel mode is somewhat transferable to other game modes.

I think the game certainly has potential , some great looking new weapons and outfits - cool factions, nice maps and a cool SP, I'm not overly disappointed I brought it - I just wish the combat mechanics were balanced better.
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Re: Fire & Sword Better Than Warband ?
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2011, 01:38:05 AM »
No, it's a pile of crap.

It's like a massive downgrade from Warband, or even the original MB.

It's painful to play.

 :shock: Umm what a nice review
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Love how "god" was the only thing not capsed in that post.

I didn`t know about the tournaments  :shock:

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Re: Fire & Sword Better Than Warband ?
« Reply #29 on: May 04, 2011, 02:17:33 AM »
No tournaments ??? I didnt know about this either  :cry:
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