Evolution or Creation?
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There is no need to lower ourselves to their level, Aratek.
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No. I have a problem with evolution or, as the Bible puts it, "Science falsely so called."Ingolifs said:
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Aratek ,very mature of you.
Please read what Ingolifs said and tell me which part is offensive. By the way, you are claiming different things but doing the same. You say you don't "need" to show evidence but GS says he puts forward proof although he didn't.
Noone is forcing you to post in this thread or share your beliefs on the matter, so why do you care? I don't care about your belief, but seriously, what is the point in posting here without needing to show evidence? Would that make it a debate or... ?
If we all supposed to say "Ok, I believe in THIS, that's all", what is the point?
Please read what Ingolifs said and tell me which part is offensive. By the way, you are claiming different things but doing the same. You say you don't "need" to show evidence but GS says he puts forward proof although he didn't.
Noone is forcing you to post in this thread or share your beliefs on the matter, so why do you care? I don't care about your belief, but seriously, what is the point in posting here without needing to show evidence? Would that make it a debate or... ?
If we all supposed to say "Ok, I believe in THIS, that's all", what is the point?
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I put forth evidence. The petroleum and fossil arguments were solid. If you wish to argue that point, I have no problem. I've been mocked before, I'll do it again. If you want some decent evidence, ponder this question: How come the world is so orderly? Yeah, sure, evolution knew where it was going. Bologna! It points unerringly to an organized Creator, unless you are as blind as a bat. How, if evolution is a still moving but slow process, how do the creatures survive in the meanwhile? Sure, the fish survived for a few million years while struggling with their half-formed gills. Yeah, the giraffes lived for ages after their food supply was depleted while waiting for their necks to grow longer. Think, man!
And as for the problem of the Bible saying something about evolution, it doesn't mention it directly. In one of the books of Timothy, the writer warns Timothy to beware of the "Oppositions of science falsely so called." This is my quote about evolution.
And as for the problem of the Bible saying something about evolution, it doesn't mention it directly. In one of the books of Timothy, the writer warns Timothy to beware of the "Oppositions of science falsely so called." This is my quote about evolution.
Aratek
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"God gave us several clear warnings in the Bible that in the last days, evolutionism would be a worldwide problem. The words evolution, evolutionism and uniformitarianism don't appear in the Bible because they didn't exist at the time the Bible was written."
Taken from creationists.org
I also believe that the earth is actually around 6,000 years old, not billions...which sounds ridiculous. A planet couldn't survive THAT long with us on it.
Taken from creationists.org
I also believe that the earth is actually around 6,000 years old, not billions...which sounds ridiculous. A planet couldn't survive THAT long with us on it.
I already have argued that point, and i already have debunked it. read again.
Basically, you don't have to have a ****load of water covering the earth to make petroleum. If you want to refute my point, you'll have to somehow refute plate tectonics.
Evolution is by no means orderly. Sure, through evolution, species tend to be quite efficient at what they do - they have to be - but you also see lots of useless byproducts of evolution; things that creatures don't need anymore, yet aren't harmful to their survival.
The human appendix is one example. The knobbly horns on top of the giraffe is another. The wings on the ostrich is a third.
the earth has existed for 4.6 billion years, humans (as we would vaguely recognise them today) have existed for only two million years, 95% of which has been spent living a nomadic lifestyle similar to other primates.
Are you suggesting that according to science, humans have been around for 4.6 billion years? If you are, that's just plain wrong, if you aren't you've just invalidated your argument.
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AGAIN WITH THE APPENDIX! Shoot, evolutionists are running out of ideas...
Anyway, about plate tectonics, if that's why we have oil, why aren't we getting more oil forming? Plate tectonics is still active, you know. Oh, yeah. I don't subscribe to that whole one big continent thing. The continents are, and always have been, seven in number.
Anyway, about plate tectonics, if that's why we have oil, why aren't we getting more oil forming? Plate tectonics is still active, you know. Oh, yeah. I don't subscribe to that whole one big continent thing. The continents are, and always have been, seven in number.
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Ingolifs said:
God created the damn earth so WE HUMANS could live on it. He made the planet perfect just for us.
There was no random creation of balls in space, which looked pretty in God's hanging display from the ceiling.
So, the planet started to age after Adam had been created...which is about 6,000 years ago.
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Your point?
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