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theAthenian said:Same here, L fanboy.xXBerethorXx said:ficus said:This year's mod will be released. done much
released? this year?
RIP L and Light (<--Favorite [char and] show and found it on hulu lol too bad not in english), anyways ill keep checking this everyday until it comes out!
molashkre said:matmohair1 said:
what is the name of this armor?I mean Arabic original name
single piece helmet (known as an egg helmet) - biydah - بيضة mail coif - mighfar - مغفر lamellar cuirass - jawshan - جوشن round shield - turs - ترس sword - saif - سيف
THIS IS THE 12TH CENTURY - TURKS, ARABS & PERSIANS IN THE LEVANT WORE THE SAME COSTUMES & ARMOR
both Ayyubid and Seljuq forces incorporated a variety of people from many cultures
so you can say good by to this silly scenario from now on !
and replace it with this
yes but it looked like a normal belt or baldric, not the one from assassins creed or the WWE championship
the large examples seen today are from the late ottoman period
- so if they get included then so do bullets, rifles and bayonets
Why would you put that here?
Outlawed
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@matmohair1:
I'm glad to see you're willing to make whole posts, with pictures, about something I never argued.
That armor is a Turkish/Seljuk armor and not of Arabic origin. Whether be it part of the Muslim armies that fought the crusaders or not is a completely different question, that I didn't even approach.
Those names that you gave, in Arabic, are very general names, that can be given to any set of armour, really.
I meant that they will not have a native, or in this case generally more specific terms associated with them.
As for the leather belts, they are obviously not as large as the badnit's, but leather straps WERE worn, from small double/triple buckles, to larger ones. They were used as belts pretty much. You can read through Osprey's Armies of the Islamic Conquest and Armies of the Caliphate to see for yourself.
I'm glad to see you're willing to make whole posts, with pictures, about something I never argued.
That armor is a Turkish/Seljuk armor and not of Arabic origin. Whether be it part of the Muslim armies that fought the crusaders or not is a completely different question, that I didn't even approach.
Those names that you gave, in Arabic, are very general names, that can be given to any set of armour, really.
I meant that they will not have a native, or in this case generally more specific terms associated with them.
As for the leather belts, they are obviously not as large as the badnit's, but leather straps WERE worn, from small double/triple buckles, to larger ones. They were used as belts pretty much. You can read through Osprey's Armies of the Islamic Conquest and Armies of the Caliphate to see for yourself.
so what, everyone used them back then even before the Seljuks arrived
in fact the origins go back even as far as the Persian Sassanids
its like saying that only the Germans alone wore Houndskull Bascinets in 14th century Europe a no one else
even the French, Italians....etc
don't worry pal, I've got the books
the show normal cavalry and infantry belts and baldrics - i never argued about that
what I meant is that the larger modern looking weight-lifting ones didn't exist
Inanch-Bilge
Thats true, these are one of the common armor sets in these times, but not used by native Arab units I think. Native Arab units should be like this
About the Mod, If there will be a unit with a armor set similar to this, it should a Ghulam unit, or a high class Seljuk unit(like Seljuk Amir's Guard) or a Turkoman Noble unit.
About the Mod, If there will be a unit with a armor set similar to this, it should a Ghulam unit, or a high class Seljuk unit(like Seljuk Amir's Guard) or a Turkoman Noble unit.
ficus
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late autumnJankoMega said:OMG!That's great!Can't wait...will there be a MP with a release in autumn or afterwards?Míriel said:They say in autumnJankoMega said:Really?Crusader-Way to Expiation will be released this year?ficus said:This year's mod will be released. done much
AWESOME!!!
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No, the Arabs in the army didn't wear the Mamluk Seljuk armour at all.
You have your facts mixed up.
The Arabic portion of the army, the mounted contingent at least, would have some similarity to those in the Turkish counterpart.
In general, most of the lamellar they wore was indeed made of leather.
Saying that they wore the SAME items of clothing and armour, is a huge mistake. They did not. They might have shared certain elements, but you'd know an Arab from a Turk, even down to the footman level. (Fur caps, as opposed to say head coifs for example and other small subtleties)
You have your facts mixed up.
The Arabic portion of the army, the mounted contingent at least, would have some similarity to those in the Turkish counterpart.
In general, most of the lamellar they wore was indeed made of leather.
Saying that they wore the SAME items of clothing and armour, is a huge mistake. They did not. They might have shared certain elements, but you'd know an Arab from a Turk, even down to the footman level. (Fur caps, as opposed to say head coifs for example and other small subtleties)
Refleax
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ficus said:late autumnJankoMega said:OMG!That's great!Can't wait...will there be a MP with a release in autumn or afterwards?Míriel said:They say in autumnJankoMega said:Really?Crusader-Way to Expiation will be released this year?ficus said:This year's mod will be released. done much
AWESOME!!!
Thanks for the info Ficus, I'm really looking forward to it.
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