Refesesesferes [REF] vs Guards of Istiniar [IG]
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Hrabia Darkula
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Hey, really good match guys. I like balanced matches, but I dont like to lose, so prepare for big kick in the ass in the future! AGRHHHHHHHH Good luck with 22.
We didnt appreciate free spect camera, but the rest was fine.
We didnt appreciate free spect camera, but the rest was fine.
DavidMF
How Surprising 
Good Luck for the Final guys !
Good Luck for the Final guys !
Hrabia Darkula
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there wasn't free spectator camera, I put it only for the last round when the whole IG team was dueling the lone REF survivor
Well, in theory not, but during first few seconds in every 5 rounds (after spawn swap) there was free ghost mode (i suppose, that's becouse you wanted to have better view, you are referee after all) and, if someone on spectators moved mouse and didnt click, he could use free camera. I saw sth like that before, in other ENPL match, I dont remember which one
You can't forbid to use that, you can't limit referee view, and you must also allow reserve players to be on spectators, so the best option will be in the future, to use some kind of admin mod, or sth.
But now, never mind
Uhm that was the usual refree behaviour in the whole tournament, I has been told that only people who entered with the admin password could have used that bug and I always it was right. Are you sure about that?Hrabia Darkula said:there wasn't free spectator camera, I put it only for the last round when the whole IG team was dueling the lone REF survivor
Well, in theory not, but during first few seconds in every 5 rounds (after spawn swap) there was free ghost mode (i suppose, that's becouse you wanted to have better view, you are referee after all) and, if someone on spectators moved mouse and didnt click, he could use free camera. I saw sth like that before, in other ENPL match, I dont remember which one
You can't forbid to use that, you can't limit referee view, and you must also allow reserve players to be on spectators, so the best option will be in the future, to use some kind of admin mod, or sth.
But now, never mind
Illuminati
Squire
Yes, well played REF. You have very accurate archers/xbows on your team, especially at long range! And nice cavalry duels in Nord town Sir_Michal
I wish you success and look forward to having another match with you again some time soon, possibly with more players (16+) since it would be great to give more members from both clans the chance to participate in the future.
See you around
In my experiance (unless I'm mistaken) all the referee's used the spec view in this way.
From what I understood from our own members who were spectating, they were unable to see anything since the camera was in a fixed position for them.
I wish you success and look forward to having another match with you again some time soon, possibly with more players (16+) since it would be great to give more members from both clans the chance to participate in the future.
See you around
Astinus said:Uhm that was the usual refree behaviour in the whole tournament, I has been told that only people who entered with the admin password could have used that bug and I always it was right. Are you sure about that?Hrabia Darkula said:there wasn't free spectator camera, I put it only for the last round when the whole IG team was dueling the lone REF survivor
Well, in theory not, but during first few seconds in every 5 rounds (after spawn swap) there was free ghost mode (i suppose, that's becouse you wanted to have better view, you are referee after all) and, if someone on spectators moved mouse and didnt click, he could use free camera. I saw sth like that before, in other ENPL match, I dont remember which one
You can't forbid to use that, you can't limit referee view, and you must also allow reserve players to be on spectators, so the best option will be in the future, to use some kind of admin mod, or sth.
But now, never mind
In my experiance (unless I'm mistaken) all the referee's used the spec view in this way.
From what I understood from our own members who were spectating, they were unable to see anything since the camera was in a fixed position for them.
Astinus said:Uhm that was the usual refree behaviour in the whole tournament, I has been told that only people who entered with the admin password could have used that bug and I always it was right. Are you sure about that?Hrabia Darkula said:there wasn't free spectator camera, I put it only for the last round when the whole IG team was dueling the lone REF survivor
Well, in theory not, but during first few seconds in every 5 rounds (after spawn swap) there was free ghost mode (i suppose, that's becouse you wanted to have better view, you are referee after all) and, if someone on spectators moved mouse and didnt click, he could use free camera. I saw sth like that before, in other ENPL match, I dont remember which one
You can't forbid to use that, you can't limit referee view, and you must also allow reserve players to be on spectators, so the best option will be in the future, to use some kind of admin mod, or sth.
But now, never mind
The 'bug' is that you can stay in free-look mode if you moved your mouse after the admin unlocked the camera. Unless you click, you can then roam freely. You do not need to be an admin for that, you only need to be an admin to change the camera settings. If no admin does that, the other spectators can't use free-look mode, but if an admin unlocks and then relocks the camera, other spectators can also use free-look.
But other then forbidding spectators or asking referees to work from the fixed perspective, there isn't really a solution to prevent this.
Meh as I told before, I thought that only who was admin could have used that trick, otherwise I would have asked the spectators to leave and re enter as Zoltanus said. But since this was the behaviour of all the refrees my clan had during the tournament and that I did the same in the other match I refreed, I find quite odd we have this matter raised only in the semifinal... Also I asked plenty of times in-game if settings were fine, you shoul have told me that question just after the first 5 rounds...SCGavin said:Astinus said:Uhm that was the usual refree behaviour in the whole tournament, I has been told that only people who entered with the admin password could have used that bug and I always it was right. Are you sure about that?Hrabia Darkula said:there wasn't free spectator camera, I put it only for the last round when the whole IG team was dueling the lone REF survivor
Well, in theory not, but during first few seconds in every 5 rounds (after spawn swap) there was free ghost mode (i suppose, that's becouse you wanted to have better view, you are referee after all) and, if someone on spectators moved mouse and didnt click, he could use free camera. I saw sth like that before, in other ENPL match, I dont remember which one
You can't forbid to use that, you can't limit referee view, and you must also allow reserve players to be on spectators, so the best option will be in the future, to use some kind of admin mod, or sth.
But now, never mind
The 'bug' is that you can stay in free-look mode if you moved your mouse after the admin unlocked the camera. Unless you click, you can then roam freely. You do not need to be an admin for that, you only need to be an admin to change the camera settings. If no admin does that, the other spectators can't use free-look mode, but if an admin unlocks and then relocks the camera, other spectators can also use free-look.
But other then forbidding spectators or asking referees to work from the fixed perspective, there isn't really a solution to prevent this.
We were told about this matter by our spectators, but it wasn't a big deal, so we just decided to ignored this and keep playing, whos who knew about it were able to watch some good skirmishes, not only just walls etc.
I don't remember if anyone before was unlocking the spec in our matches, besides our last two matches* were played without referee, but still it's not a big deal. Maybe just a small note for a future.
I'm glad that you showed up Astinus, many thanks for refereeing.
* my mistake I've forgotten about Willy, so it makes only one match, nvm.
I don't remember if anyone before was unlocking the spec in our matches, besides our last two matches* were played without referee, but still it's not a big deal. Maybe just a small note for a future.
I'm glad that you showed up Astinus, many thanks for refereeing.
* my mistake I've forgotten about Willy
, so it makes only one match, nvm.
