Dorfus145 said:
Take the Marksman, they have more accuracy and damage
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Take the Marksman, they have more accuracy and damage
Dorfus145
Knight
They are very slow and they only have one bullet in their ammo clip, the Engineers can shoot like 2 more shots than them while they're reloading and just because have 10 more accuracy that does not compensate the huge slowness of their gun, and still the Engineers' damage is close enough to almost kill a Warrior Priest so it's enough since it has 2 shots so the damage doubles.
And also because I don't know exactly if you can upgrade the imperial marksmen to Jaegerkorps
And also because I don't know exactly if you can upgrade the imperial marksmen to Jaegerkorps
You can, and the damage matters, as well as the bullet speed, it means the Jaeger have a lot less bullet drop
Hesha
Veteran
Jaegercorps start firing at a longer distance than Engineers and they also hit things further away. But that doesn't make them better. An army of 50 Master Engineers can easilly take 100 Orcs out (with minimal casualties), an army of 50 Jaegercorps cannot. The 7barrel has a terrible bullet drop and lower damage. But six shots before reloading vs. 1 shot takes the cake any day. My army is all engineers and I know why.Bobtheheros said:
Birger Jarl
Sergeant Knight at Arms
I designed the Jaegerkorps to be specialists mixed in the ranks of regular riflemen.
They are indeed a poor choice as the only type of rifleman in an army, but they are great for softening up the enemy force before they are in range of the bulk of your ranged troops.
If only there was a way to tell them to prioritze enemy Lords.
They are indeed a poor choice as the only type of rifleman in an army, but they are great for softening up the enemy force before they are in range of the bulk of your ranged troops.
If only there was a way to tell them to prioritze enemy Lords.
Dorfus145
Knight
We actually were comparing the Jaegerkorps with the Skryre Engineers, not with the Dwarven EngineersHesha said:
Damnit why is the computer being so harsh with the imperials? We've already conquered Talabheim and Nuln and the worst part is that I couldn't play it so the computer decided it by itself .-. Well it's not really like we were not going to win since we were like 1500 guys against 300 in both sieges but still I feel like the computer is making the imperials more dumb, and by that I mean that when they are sieging a castle and we siege one instead of holding position all of them go and try to stop us and at the end they can't because we're more :/
I already said the dwarves were great. They'd lose out vs Jaeger if they were human sized in a Jaeger vs Master engies fight, I think. But short size ruins everything.
Birger Jarl
Sergeant Knight at Arms
Bobtheheros said:
1 vs. 1 the Jaegerkorps will probably beat any other "archer" in the game due to range.
Theoretically.
Aye that's the point I was making, probably more likely to one shot special units, too, no? Haven't checked their stats...
That's because you're skavens and short races are pretty much immune to ranged fire, especially accurate one
Its a bug in the game, its unrelated to anything in the fluff or whatever.
Birger Jarl
Sergeant Knight at Arms
Dorfus145 said:
A limitation in the AI doesn't allow an archer to adjust their aim to compensate for a custom hitbox; they will keep trying to score a headshot on the default human hitbox regardless.
As such, any time a gobbo, skaven or stunty does get hit, the archer actually missed - which is why the highly accurate marksmen are terrible against the smaller races as they land "headshot" after "headshot".
Birger Jarl
Sergeant Knight at Arms
Dorfus145 said:
To a certain extent, yes.
If they aim for the default head but instead accidentally hit the default chest or default stomach they will headshot the gobbo/skaven/dwarf's custom hitbox instead.
If they are accurate enough to always land a headshot on the default hitbox they will never hit the custom hitbox.
However if they are so bad they can't hit the broad side of a barn, naturally they won't hit anything regardless.
Only agaisnt short stuff, the Jaeeger have better chance to hit short stuff at longer range.
The ratling gun is probably the best unit to kill short units, 10 shots, low accuracy.
The ratling gun is probably the best unit to kill short units, 10 shots, low accuracy.
Birger Jarl
Sergeant Knight at Arms
Dorfus145 said:
The only real solution would be to make the head hitbox of the smaller races taller, but that would lead to the opposite effect: shots going waaaay above the model would still headshot them.
Which would be fairer, but look quite bad.
