Timeline Discussion

This is what I think is what the timeline of the more recent EATRC times is like, do feel free to suggest and contribute.
Might help with those confused.

note = unfinished. Stuff in red aren't confirmed in "proper" lore, just random discussions.


1391 - Battle of Lubnie
1392 - Second Battle of Braclaw

1410? - The Duchies of Upper and Lower Lorraine (Swadia Ulterior) split from the Kingdom of Swadia during the Swadian Civil War.

1427 - Unification of the North Obello states of Nord-Berthe and the Kingdom of Haelmar under Margaret of Haelmar to form the Haelmar Union.

1440? - Saldian becomes Pope and Lion Throne expansionism goes on overdrive.

1462 - The Battle of Zena. The Haelmar Union begins to exert its influence over Eastern Bermian as the Haelmarian Armed Forces rearm in secret.

1475? - The Kingdom of Laurian under Imelda starts to annex Bermian after the efforts of her ancestors are stymied by Bermianese and Haelmarian resistance.

1490 - Chapter I
- Brigade of the Radiant Cross is sent to aid Ellis.
- The Kingdom of Lauria invades Swadia Citerior and captures Nibelheim.

1495 - Chapter II
- Death of King Leiss.
- Collapse of the Dual Monarchy.
- Foundation of the Tsardom of Vaegirs.
- Imperial State launches the Kurfurst Ulrick, the first half-ironclad.
- Ormelis start to emerge as the dominant power in the Calradian Steppes.
- Fall of Ellis.
- Nikephoros is burnt at the Stake.
- Deaths of Prince Maximilian and Empress Adelheid of the Holy Swadian Empire.
- The Lion Throne takes over the former Ellisian lands.
- The Grand Ducal House of Rurik-Orla is formally established as the Grand Duchy attempts to fill the power vacuum in the east of the former Dual Monarchy.

1496 - Johann IV Eirik becomes Regent of Haelmar.

1497 - Haelmar invades the Eridanian Republic and forces a dictated peace on them.

1500 - Chapter III
- Arrival of the HEF.
- Construction of the Aurora Cannon starts.
- Hengest the Elder becomes one of the candidates for the Marshalship after Harhengothus' Pyrrhic Victory at Etrosq.
- The Grand Duchy becomes more involved in Calradian affairs.
- The Laurian Armada loses dominance of the Southern Obello to the Kaiserliche Marine and the Haelmarian Navy.

1501 - Fulburg-Magdeburg completes the first Battle Wagon prototypes and On The Use of Battle Wagons And the Halting of Their Development is sent to the Emperor.

1503
  - The Gray Brotherhood attempts to sabotage the Aurora Cannon but fails epicly.
  - Correspondences between diplomats and merchants between the two Swadian nations begin. Most notable individuals involved are Heinrich von Drosslewen, Swadian Ambassador to the Imperial State, and Prof. Gerhardt Schlessen of Ulm University.

1504
- Swadian Grand Marshal Elections. Hengest the Elder defeats other notable generals and nobles though the Emperor may have had something to do with it.
- First Major deployment of the Swadian Battle Wagons in a charge near Grunwalder Castle with relative success.
- The "Border War" on the Swadian border begins in the months leading up to the Siege of Vienna. Fierce and fanatical fighting by both sides result in heavy casualties for both factions by the onset of Winter.
- A Swadian Knight converts to Filaharnism and rallies a large force to attempt to capture Zollern but are halted and utterly destroyed by a Swadian Baron.

1505? - Chapter IV, Siege of Vienna
- Grand Marshall Hengest besieges Nibelheim
- IS besiege and capture Tihr
- Queen Imelda calls for evacuation of Laurian Holdings in Calradia. Tsardom marches and takes Wercheg
- Grand Duchy assail Vasterboot.


1512 - The Haelmar Union becomes the second Calradian nation to settle in the New World.

IIRC Chapter I was 1490, II was 1495 and III was 1500.

Goiddammit! The One Whose Nemesis is AR-Man is still alive!!! Help us AR Man!!!

And...he's censored? 

PS: Why no love for Lauria (and the Tsardom)?

I think it was the repatch of Chapter 1 where the Laurians got inserted

You should include them sometime before the Eridanian Republic losses to HU.

- Queen Imelda of House Loehr launches Calradian Expedition. Invades and subjugates Swadia Superior.

Somewhere at the later parts of Chapter III

- Laurian Navy has lost its power of the South Obello to the Kaiserlicher and Halmarian Navies

Chapter IV
1505? (at the same time as the Siege of Vienna) - Grand Marshall Hengest besieges Nibelheim
- IS besiege and capture Tihr
- Queen Imelda calls for evacuation of Laurian Holdings in Calradia. Tsardom marches and takes Wercheg
- Grand Duchy assail Vasterboot.

Note: these last ones are supposed to balance the number of cities in game for C4
Hengest besieging Nibelheim is another subplot of Fall of Vienna... damn I think I'm starting to get my second wind in writing because of this topic.

Hooold on. Evacuate Calradia? Can't do that! Conquistadores don't just quit! 

Added some more stuff.

Does anyone have a map of Bermian with the cities or a map of Calradia with the cities? There's currently the Jan_Boruta map which doesn't show Bermianese settlements and there's that quick paint map I did of Swadia.

Here's a really, really rough map of Bermia I've pieced together.  It's not very pretty because I'm not using my nice laptop that sony won't fix. 

Edit: And that's what happens when you use quote instead of spoiler... doh

Note: You better edit it and put it upside down... That's how the Bermian continent should look like

Shrugging Khan said:

Hooold on. Evacuate Calradia? Can't do that! Conquistadores don't just quit! 

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It's supposed to balance the number of cities that each faction have, aside from the LT (their point is to be unfair and breed hatred and create purpose)

Imelda would be having problems soon, back in the homeland and in the colonies, all thanks to Erik and Wilhelm's Navies.

Well well...time to make a pact with the LT then. Conquerors of the world, UNITE!

Shrugging Khan said:

Hooold on. Evacuate Calradia? Can't do that! Conquistadores don't just quit! 

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i knew it, those coward Laurians 

Cowards? Hey, you would rather pull back your men from a hopeless situation than sacrifice them in glory. That just leaves you with lesser man power and weakens you. At least Imelda is smart enough to do this than risk losing her troops. She could not call large enough reinforcements from the homeland either, seeing that HU and some other factions are getting ambitious with the absence of the Queen Overlord.

This ain't the place for faction-bashing.

FuryFire said:

Chapter IV
1505? (at the same time as the Siege of Vienna) - Grand Marshall Hengest besieges Nibelheim
- IS besiege and capture Tihr
- Queen Imelda calls for evacuation of Laurian Holdings in Calradia. Tsardom marches and takes Wercheg
- Grand Duchy assail Vasterboot.

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so something like this:




so how big will be the c4 map and who ends up controlling Vienna territories

Venitius said:

This ain't the place for faction-bashing.

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bashing, nah just observing the inevitability in the course of progress 

This all don't happen at the same time however...

-The evacuation comes much much later.

Note these are events I am planning to include in the Siege of Vienna saga/occurrence and is still up for discussion.
-Hengest manages to nab Nibelheim because Imelda is busy advancing her vaegir campaign to capture Odoev.
-The loss of Nibelheim divides the Laurian Forces and the IS press the advantage by attacking Tihr.
-The "failure" of the Laurian vaegir campaign, which is mostly caused by Imelda pulling back her forces to recapture Nibelheim, realizing that without it she could not hold the Calradian Colonies. The Vaegirs think of this as cowardice and with the help of the Tsar's firebrand oratory skills, he brought forth hope and morale that allowed him to drive his armies towards Wercheg and holding back the HU and GD at the same time.
-News of the disarray of the Laurian Expedition made the Kaiserlicher and Halmarian navies more aggressive. Raiding and closing a noose on the waters of Wercheg. Note they are not allied to each other on this enterprise, they are just doing the same thing, wreaking havoc on Laurian shipping. Truces and rivalries happen between their captains.
-The reinforcing Laurian Armada from the homeland, while large enough to hold the two navies(Make it three with the occasional vaegir fleet), they did not bring enough manpower to retake what is lost. Thus Imelda signalled a retreat to the homeland. The Vaegirs then seized Wercheg.

I'm having second thoughts on the last one though. My other thought it to let Imelda show her stubborn and tactical prowess and ability to inspire his conquistadores by making Wercheg the last bastion of Laurian colonial power in Calradia.

FuryFire said:

I'm having second thoughts on the last one though. My other thought it to let Imelda show her stubborn and tactical prowess and ability to inspire his conquistadores by making Wercheg the last bastion of Laurian colonial power in Calradia.

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olololololol

Keeping Wercheg as Laurian? I suppose it would be a reasonable idea but how on earth are they going to keep themselves holed in there for at least a year? Haelmar owns the water around it unless the Laurian Armada tries to break the blockade every so often with a crazed charge through the lines with a load of galleons, which has a small chance of success. The Tsar isn't going to give them a truce either, despite Haelmarian pressuring on his north-eastern border, as that would portray him as weak.

wenkz.... >.<  Speed typing has its disadvantages if you're not a call center agent.

Hmmm you have a point. But hey the Halmarian navies are on the offensive, not the Laurian. And the Laurian Suppa Mega Galleons are like giant sea fortresses that could just hold on anchor and dare anybody to come near.

The Armada might not be able to bring enough manpower, but it is powerful on the seas on its own right. Imelda could post them there and maybe have them do a major naval battle here and there.

The Laurians Expeditionary forces were maneuvered around and not really committed on major battles so. Wercheg will have a full force guarding it. Not making it easy for the Vaegirs. Do not underestimate the Tercio and Spani...Laurian determination.

Of course, though Haelmar's main priority is to deal with Lauria north of the Obello and keep expanding into Vaegir territory in the meantime.

Keeping Laurian troops stuck in Wercheg would be beneficial to Haelmar as it would mean that Lauria keeps a large force there (including a part of the navy), as you said Lauria wants to keep her colonial power in Calradia alive, and it would be embarrassing to lose it after a large scale invasion that was feared by all Calradia at the time.

Haelmar would in this case, not do a blockade where it surrounds the harbour. Haelmar's nearest port to Wercheg can control the supply lines rather well. If Lauria tried to strengthen the supply vessels, Haelmar can simply move more ships from other ports. If Lauria tried to take out this port they'd risk getting into a major battle with Haelmar while the Vaegirs can launch an all-out attack on Wercheg as the port would be weaker if they sent out the ships from Wercheg; if they were from mainland Lauria they'd risk meeting the Haelmarian Grand Fleet.

Hmmmm... Imelda would disperse a half of her grand armada into grand escorts ala Golden Fleet style?

Either way. Halmaer could control... you're right. And any naval incursion is dangerous. So Halmaer would just be satisfied raiding its sea lines... Wercheg is still self sufficient. Able to maintain the Laurian Expedition. But the loss in naval trade is still a blow I guess. Imelda might go home, doing the "I shall return" to her troops. While Wercheg is left in the hands of a capable lord and the three knight orders. How heroic.

few things i dont understand, HSE lost viena to the LT.
so now viena destroyed but the keep left?
how the HSE manage to mount an attack after such a loss?
what are the LT and the ormeli plans(in my games they was always the most strongest AI players)?