SP Oriental [WB] Asian Dynasties

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vahadar said:
unless you even plan to make new asian face textures  :grin:

You are right, i will add new face textures. New hear-styles will be also do.


vahadar

Could you do the map (i didn't even install map-editor yet) and send me as map.txt ? You name will be in credits.
If you agree, make please the Japan and Korea bigger, to balance map, because China is very big and Korea and Japan are too small. It will be very good!

Make please, and we won't forget you  :grin:

 
like i said i could, but do not expect something before weeks at least, or even 2-3 month, rl is very busy for me atm
i will let you know if and then when i'll start working on it

if i cant i'm pretty sure someone could use my work above to help you and make the map

edit : some quick color map (for Thorgrim's editor) with a 130% bigger korea and 140%bigger japan :



are korea&japan large enough for you?

here is original realistic map to compare :




under is a map matching area featured on the map link in your 1st post :

 
give me a quite some weeks if you need a "close to release" map.txt (height polished and so on)

or if you just want a basic map based on those pics above but with much much (much...^^) polishing work to be done i can make the .txt pretty quickly, if someone else can polish the map for you with map editor.
 
New screenshots:

http://fotky.com.ua/view/72188_qzsmc
http://fotky.com.ua/view/72186_rvnbm
http://fotky.com.ua/view/72187_2wage
http://fotky.com.ua/view/72189_xmjpl

an attempt to make a draft zoon  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

http://fotky.com.ua/view/full/72190_lmkd0

 
they look amazing as always, are those koreans? btw, if you posted your images as thumbnails or pictures themselves(using ), this mod could get more publication, because most people are lazy to hit the links.

I just noticed some warriors are ridings Yaks! wow..
 
Artizan said:
they look amazing as always, are those koreans? btw, if you posted your images as thumbnails or pictures themselves(using ), this mod could get more publication, because most people are lazy to hit the links.
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they look amazing as always, are those koreans?
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No, they are tibetians)
 
ToxicRUS said:
Artizan said:
they look amazing as always, are those koreans? btw, if you posted your images as thumbnails or pictures themselves(using [ img]), this mod could get more publication, because most people are lazy to hit the links.
I know, but that imagehost isn't avaiable for teg [ img ][ \img]

Now that's not true.


See?
ToxicRUS said:
New screenshots:
72188_qzsmc.jpg
72186_rvnbm.jpg
72187_2wage.jpg
72189_xmjpl.jpg

an attempt to make a draft zoon  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

72190_lmkd0.jpg


You just had to add .jpg to their names.
 
I really love those shaggy beasts of burden. Might I suggest making them slightly bigger than normal horses? Whether you do or don't, they're still stupendous.
 
Materials about 'Chosun' dynasty's troops. These are histrically correct, cuz they have been used in 'national reenactment festival'.

A flagman and an archer
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A musketman and an officer level 1 (I am going to express an officer's rank as a 'level', so you can easily understand it.)
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A trainer and an officer level 2
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An officer level 3 and an officer level 4
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A king's armor(I don't think it had been used in battles, but I think it had been used in a ceremony)  and an artilleryman
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general's armors
General%27s%20armor2.jpg
General%27s%20armor.jpg
General%27s%20helmet2.jpg
General%27s%20helmet.jpg
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15.jpg
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Some of other materials
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Historical picture (Japanese Invasion of Korea in 1592)
Historical%20picture.jpg
Japanwar1.jpg
Japanwar2.jpg
Japanwar4.jpg
Japanwar3.jpg
Japanwar5.jpg

 
michaell said:
I found some pics of Japanese samurais:
http://www.mysticunicorn.com/graphics/tlt/1484.jpg
http://www.tepapa.govt.nz/SiteCollectionImages/Research/Conservation/Samurai/before_after.jpg
http://www.japaneselifestyle.com.au/culture/images/samurai.jpg
^^^^the last 1 is the best pic


Korean warriors+ archers
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=56464

Some of Korean warriors' pics are not historically correct. Some of them are used before 'Chosun' era.

 
Some of these pics are from dramas so they are not more historically correct than post of upper one, but AFAIK these are good examples of dresses and clothes of 'Chosun Dynasty'.

buildings
house%201.jpg
house2.jpg
house%203.jpg

aristocrats ( 'Sun-bi'(man) )
Sunbi1.jpg
Sunbi%2B.jpg
sunbi2.JPG
sunbi3.jpg
sunbi4.jpg
woman1.jpg
woman2.JPG
woman3.jpg

the common people and the lowest people
normal%201.jpg
normal2.jpg
normal3.JPG
low1.jpg
low2.jpg
low3.jpg
low4.jpg
 
The peasant armies of Joseon at the time of the Imjin War were poorly armed compared to the well-paid feudal troops of Japan, most of them usually going into battle wearing rudimentary cloth-and-cotton armors and farming equipments, or at best, tridents. But Joseon had a huge superiority over Japan at the time in the sea, and one of the most remarkable and ingenious naval weapons that Joseon had in its disposal was the Geobukson, or the 'turtle ship', which was the first iron-clad warship to have fought a naval battle in history. The ship had a low deck and mast profile which made it easier to dodge cannon shots, and the iron-clad deck could sustain full cannon shots, as well as impede boarding attempts. Japan achieved terrifying success against the 'ragtag' armies of Joseon in numerous land battles  (Joseon was very poor in cavalry, and had no muskets for the infantry, only cannons), but Joseon achieved similarly terrifying success against the ragtag navies of Japan in naval battles. Because Joseon was able to maintain credible sea superiority over Japan through the most of the war, Japan was never able to successfully establish a stable supply line to support its land invasion force, which was one of the big reasons for the downfall of Japan's invasion efforts despite Japan having outnumbered the combined Joseon and Ming army in the Korean peninsula by nearly three to one.

P1000718.JPG

Here are the best sourced wikipedia articles with regard to significant naval battles in the Imjin war:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hansan_Island
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Myeongnyang

You can see here how the peasant soldiers/marines of Korea were armed during the time. The lieutenants usually wore hardened studded lether armor, and generals wore more sophisticated scale armors. Tridents and bow were the most common weapons of choice of the Joseon infantry, while the Japanese infantry often used muskets and shortswords. Swords were usually reserved for officers and commanders only in Korea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzkT-kg01is

This is the trailer of a drama episode that reenacts the final naval battle of the Imjin War, the battle of Noryang; it was perhaps most fierce naval battle fought in the entire war that had seen participation of all the three belligerents, and it's also where the Korean naval strategic mastermind Yi Sunshin fell, although the battle was still won on Yi's side. Allow it to help you imagine how the naval battles in the war would have played out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0NWbcqYbVo

Korea was historically one of the world's most accomplished masters of seamanship and shipbuilding. Korean seamen and ships could sail and fight in treacherous waters that their Japanese or Chinese counterparts could not, and apparently, that unprecedented historic reputation of Korean naval dominance in the relevant parts of the world lingers up to the modern day, if Korea's present domination of world shipbuilding is any indication. You should balance Korea and Japan's military by giving Korea superb navy but relatively poor army, and vice versa for Japan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shipbuilding#World_shipbuilding_industry_in_the_21st_century
 
Cloud Breaker said:
The peasant armies of Joseon at the time of the Imjin War were poorly armed compared to the well-paid feudal troops of Japan, most of them usually going into battle wearing rudimentary cloth-and-cotton armors and farming equipments, or at best, tridents. But Joseon had a huge superiority over Japan at the time in the sea, and one of the most remarkable and ingenious naval weapons that Joseon had in its disposal was the Geobukson, or the 'turtle ship', which was the first iron-clad warship to have fought a naval battle in history. The ship had a low deck and mast profile which made it easier to dodge cannon shots, and the iron-clad deck could sustain full cannon shots, as well as impede boarding attempts. Japan achieved terrifying success against the 'ragtag' armies of Joseon in numerous land battles  (Joseon was very poor in cavalry, and had no muskets for the infantry, only cannons), but Joseon achieved similarly terrifying success against the ragtag navies of Japan in naval battles. Because Joseon was able to maintain credible sea superiority over Japan through the most of the war, Japan was never able to successfully establish a stable supply line to support its land invasion force, which was one of the big reasons for the downfall of Japan's invasion efforts despite Japan having outnumbered the combined Joseon and Ming army in the Korean peninsula by nearly three to one.

P1000718.JPG

Here are the best sourced wikipedia articles with regard to significant naval battles in the Imjin war:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hansan_Island
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Myeongnyang

You can see here how the peasant soldiers/marines of Korea were armed during the time. The lieutenants usually wore hardened studded lether armor, and generals wore more sophisticated scale armors. Tridents and bow were the most common weapons of choice of the Joseon infantry, while the Japanese infantry often used muskets and shortswords. Swords were usually reserved for officers and commanders only in Korea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzkT-kg01is

This is the trailer of a drama episode that reenacts the final naval battle of the Imjin War, the battle of Noryang; it was perhaps most fierce naval battle fought in the entire war that had seen participation of all the three belligerents, and it's also where the Korean naval strategic mastermind Yi Sunshin fell, although the battle was still won on Yi's side. Allow it to help you imagine how the naval battles in the war would have played out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0NWbcqYbVo

Korea was historically one of the world's most accomplished masters of seamanship and shipbuilding. Korean seamen and ships could sail and fight in treacherous waters that their Japanese or Chinese counterparts could not, and apparently, that unprecedented historic reputation of Korean naval dominance in the relevant parts of the world lingers up to the modern day, if Korea's present domination of world shipbuilding is any indication. You should balance Korea and Japan's military by giving Korea superb navy but relatively poor army, and vice versa for Japan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shipbuilding#World_shipbuilding_industry_in_the_21st_century

Some vids that you put on are criticized because of their poor historical research.(cuz armors are very expensive, so a TV producer got a cheaper one : cotton clothes) In reality, in contrast, most soldiers in that time were fully armed, not that just cotton clothes that you can see on vids.
 
Looks like a great mod but a shame your only doing east Asia  and not the rest but still looks great
 
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