Is Mythology the turth disguised as a Tale? or a Tale to disguise a Turth?

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I have come upon a "Pseudo Scientific" analysis of the word Zeus (one can not really get scientific enough when dealing with Gods that throw thunder  :shock: ):
(I don't agree with everything this guy talks about like many of his "anagrams", but I definitely agree with some. He seems to have some knowledge about tamgas, but I "can't" see any logic behind many of his analysis)

Part-13: About the ancient Greek god's name "ZEUS"


By POLAT KAYA

In this essay we will discuss the name Zeus and show that its source
is Turkish both linguistically and culturally.

The name ZEUS is defined as: [Greek (generally DIOS); akin to Latin
Jupiter.] Greek religion The chief of the Olympian gods, son of Cronus
and Rhea and husband of Hera, identified by the Romans with JUPITER.
The most primitive character of ZEUS is probably as god of the
elements; thunderbolt is his sign, the rainbow, IRIS, his messenger.
Zeus is also god of moral law and order, protector of suppliants and
punisher of guilt". [104]

Graham Speake writes about Zeus as follows [105] :
"ZEUS father of the Greek gods. Zeus was first, and universally, the
sky god. By extension he was the weather god in charge of all natural
phenomena such as storms, thunder, and lightning. As the cloud
gatherer he lived on the mountain tops, and specifically on the
highest of them all, Olympus, where he ruled over his extended family
of gods and goddesses. Zeus was the father of men as well as gods and
was honoured as the guardian of political liberty, of law and order,
oaths, and moral behaviour. The justice that he dispensed was
impartial, supreme, and inexorable. He was bearded and regal. His
most famous image was the chryselephantine statue by PHEIDAS at
Olympia."

ZEUS being the weather god in charge of all natural phenomena such as
storms, thunder and lightning relates it to Sumerian ENLIL, that is,
Turkish "HAN YEL" meaning "Lord Wind" and Sumerian EN-ZU, that is
Turkish "HAN-SU" meaning "Lord Water". The name of one of the sons of
Turkish "OGUZ KAGAN" was "DENIZ HAN" meaning "Sea Lord" or "SU HAN"
meaning "Water Lord". Below we will see that Zeus was indeed a
personification of "water" as well.

The Greek spelling of the name ZEUS is given as "ZEUS, ZIOUS, O,
TOU DIOS". [106]

First of all the fact that it is called "O" indicates that it was
Turkish in origin. The Turkish word "O" meaning "he/she/it" is the
personal pronoun in Turkish referring to 3rd person singular, and
"that" which is a demonstrative pronoun. When the Sky-God is talked
about in Turkish, it is pointed out as "O" or "BIR O" meaning "Only
Him" or "Only That". The letter O itself is an icon for the Sky-God
because it emulates the disk of the sun and the full moon. The letter
O with a dot at its center is another icon for the Sky-God because it
is the representation of an "eye" (Göz) which again refers to the Sun
and the Moon because they were regarded as the "Eyes" of OGUZ
(Turanian Sky-God) in the ancient Turanian religion which antedates
all other religions. So in this context, that is, Zeus being known as
"O", it is simply an emulation of ancient Turanian Sky-God concepts.
Also, the letter O with a dot at its center was one of the letters of
the Etruscan alphabet and the Pelasgian alphabet. This letter
represented "T" or "Th" for "ATA" the Creator God, meaning "father"
and "UTU" (OTO) for the Sun-God.

Secondly, the name DIOS, when deconstructed as "OD-SI", is an anagram
of the Turkish expression "OD SU" meaning "fire and water" which again
refers to the godly entities of "fire" ("OD" (OT) in Turkish) and
"water" ("Han Su" in Turkish and "EN-ZU" in Sumerian). Both fire and
water are very important essential elements for life and survival
which is why they were regarded as godly entities.

Thirdly, the name DIOS, when deconstructed as "DI-OS", is the Turkish
expression "DI AUS" ("de auz", "de aguz") meaning "speech" as uttered
by the mouth. "OS" is also "mouth" in Latin which is itself taken from
Turkish OUS, AUS or AUZ (AGUZ). Furthermore, DIOS is Turkish "DI OUS"
(DE OGUZ or OGUZ DE) meaning "OGUZ SPEECH" (Oguz Language) referring
to "OGUZ" (TUR) language, that is, "Turkish". The Turkish word "DI/DE"
means "word, speech, saying, utterence" which is the root word of the
Turkish verb "demek".

Additionally the Greek name "TOU DIOS", when deconstructed as:
a) "OD-OUSTI", is the restructured form of the Turkish expression "OD
OGUZTI" (OD OGUZ IDI) meaning "It is the Fire OGUZ" the Sun-God.

b) "US OTODI", is the restructured form of the Turkish expression "US
ATADI" meaning "he is wise father" referring to Sky-Father God and
also "wise ancestors".

c) "OOS-TIDU", is the restructured form of the Turkish expression "OOS
TEDU" (OGUZ DEDU) meaning "Oguz speech" (Tur language).

But "OOS TIDU" is also a form of the Turkish "OGUS TEDE/DEDE" meaning
"grandfather Oguz" referring to the ancient Turanian Sky-God, that is,
the Sun-God, Moon-God and the Sky-Father-God all as one entity - but
yet a trinity, and also to "Oguz forefathers"
In all these variations, different Turkish words come forward in
relation with "Oguz" and "Aguz" words. Evidently, the Greek name "TOU
DIOS" for ZEUS has been manufactured from various Turkish expressions
such as the ones indicated here and also the names "OGUZ DEDE" and
"AGUZ DEDU". This immediately reminds us of the legendary Oguz
elderman's name "DEDE KORKUT" who is described as the "name" giver in
OGUZ Epic stories.

The name "DEDE KORKUT" meaning "grandfather Korkut" can also be read
as "DEDE KOR KUT" meaning "Grandfather Holy Fire" which is, of course,
the "SUN" as the source of creation in the solar system. Additionally,
it can be read as "DEDI KOR KUT" meaning "spoke the holy fire (Sun)".
This relates the ancient Sun worshipping Oguz religion to Oguz
language. Hence it identifies the OGUZ language as the "SUN LANGUAGE"
(GÜNESh DILI), that is, Turkish.

ZEUS, when defined as "god", is spelled with a lower case "g"
indicating that ZEUS is not the real "GOD". The name ZEUS is a
composite name uniting the meanings of names for many entities and/or
concepts defined in Turkish. In ancient Greek mythology, ZEUS,
together with other "Olympian" gods, supposedly lived on the top of a
"mountain" called "Mount OLUMPOS" [107] .

The very fact that the name ZEUS is also spelled as "ZIOUS" is an
indication that it is an artificially structured name. Otherwise,
there is no natural or logical reason that there should be three
vowels packed together between two consonants. The rearrangements of
the letters in the name ZEUS and ZIOUS explains attributes of ZEUS in
Turkish. We will see some of these attributes below.

In order to understand the true identity of Zeus better, it is
important to first understand the true identity of the name "Mount
Olympus". Although this name refers superficially to a real mountain,
in actuality, it has another identity hidden behind this front and
this hidden identity uses a Turkish expression.

The Greek word OLUMPOS, English "OLYMPUS" is defined as: "1. A
mountain in Macedonia, mythical abode of the Greek gods. 2. Any abode
of godlike beings." [108]

As most words of the so-called "Greek" language are artificially
manufactured from Turkish words and phrases, this Greek name OLUMPOS
is another such word. When the name OLUMPOS is deconstructed
letter-by-letter as "OLU-POSM" or "OL-POSUM", and read phonetically as
in Turkish, it is a restructured and disguised form of the Turkish
expression "ULU PAShUM" ("ulu bashum", "ulu tepeyim") meaning "I am
great head" or "I am great mountain" where Turkish word "tepe" means
"human head" and also "hill and mountain top"; additionally, Turkish
"ULU PAShUM" ("ulu tepem", "ulu bashum") meaning "my great head",
thus referring to "human head". This creates a metaphor in which
"Mount OLUMPUS" is identified, in one sense, as a great "mountain
top", and in another sense as the great "human head". The human head
is symbolized as a "mountain top", expressed with the Turkish word
"TEPE", where "ZEUS" was supposed to live. Thus mountain that ZEUS
and his relatives lived on was in one sense the so-called Mount
Olympus, and in the other was the "human head".

This implies that the concept of "Zeus" as god was an abstract concept
created in the mind of the human head and was in Turkish originally.
In other words the "Sky-God" concept was first created by the wisdom
(US) of OGUZ (TUR) men in Asia and then it was spread to other places.
"Monotheism" was not the gift of Semitic people as they would like us
to believe. The Sky-God concept was Turanian in origin and from much
earlier in time.

Ancient Greeks have cunningly taken this double-meaning Turkish
phrase, i.e., "ULU BAShUM", anagrammatized and disguised it as usual
into a Greek word for a double meaning concept in which one was hidden
by the other. This linguistic trick provided the needed camouflage to
portray the so-called "Greek" mythologial names as words of the Greek
language when they were really Turkic in origin.

Now let us see what is it in the mind that creates such a mighty
concept and philosophy.

1. The name ZEUS, when deconstructed as "EZ-US", is the Turkish
expression "AZ US" meaning "Peerless wisdom". A peerless wisdom can
think of very high level abstract concepts. US (i.e., wisdom) lives in
the "head" of man. Thus ZEUS, in one meaning, is a personification of
"wisdom", that is, "US" in Turkish.

2. The name ZEUS, when shown as "S-EUZ", is an anagram of the Turkish
expression "AS AUZ" (essiz Aguz, tek Aguz) meaning "peerless mouth".
"AGUZ" (i.e., the mouth) which is located on the head, is one and it
is peerless. It feeds the body with all the necessary food and drink,
it allows for breathing and exhaling, and it generates sound (ses) and
the "WORD" (SÖZ), all of which enables speech and communication. Thus
ZEUS is also a personification of the human "MOUTH", that is "AGUZ" in
Turkish.

3. The name ZEUS, when shown as "SEUZ", is also an anagram of the
Turkish word "SÖZ" meaning "WORD, speech, language". Thus ZEUS is also
a personification of "WORD" ("SÖZ") in Turkish. "Word" also sets the
"law" and "punishment", i.e., Turkish "DE ve CEZA"

4. The name ZEUS, when shown as "SEZ U", is the Turkish expression
"SES O" meaning "it is the voice". Complex thinkings that are created
in the mind, are expressed into language by means of "SES" (voice)
generated from the mouth. The voice (SES) allows us to communicate
what is going on in the mind. SES (i.e., voice) is generated from the
"mouth" (Turkish "AGUZ", also the less used word of "AVURT" from which
the English "WORD" has been anagrammatized) and is located on the
head. Hence ZEUS is also a personification of SES (voice) in Turkish.

5. ZEUS as a god of punishment of the guilty, when arranged as
"SEZ-U", with C/S shifting in Greek, is the anagram of Turkish word
"CEZA" meaning "punishment". Hence, Zeus is also a personification of
"punishment", that is, Turkish "ceza".

Now all of these abstract concepts and therefore their
personifications dwell in the human head, that is "ULU BASHUM" (Ulu
tepem) in Turkish which has been anagrammatized into Greek as
"OLUMPUS" or "Mount Olumpus". In other words, as abstract concepts,
ZEUS or his "family" never lived on the top of the so-called "mount
Olympus" as the ancient Greeks led people to believe. The riddled
Greek mythologies are all made up from ancient Turanian concepts and
stories because distorting the Turkish originals was much easier than
creating them from scratch.

In addition to these concepts, ZEUS is also the personification of
physical entities known in Turkish as well.

6. When the name ZEUS is deconstructed as "EZ-SU", it is an anagram of
the Turkish expression "AZ-SU" (essiz su) meaning "peerless water".
Like air, "water" being one of the most essential elements for life on
earth as we know, is a "godly" being. Like the sun, it is essential
for life. It is a force that shapes the earth and magically
embellishes our sky continuously. Water in liquid form is mobile and
alive, fills the seas, lakes and flows in the rivers, streams etc.. It
comes out of the ground as underground waters. In the form of "snow"
it embellishes the tops of the lofty mountains as it did so at the top
of "Mount Olympus". In the form of "clouds" it fills the air around
us. In the form of "ice" it exists on mountains and the polar zones.
Thus ZEUS, in this context, is the personification of "water" as it
was in the Turko-Sumerian culture "EN-ZU".

In ancient Turkish culture "water" has been personified as "SU HAN"
(DENIZ HAN) meaning "Lord Water" or "Lord Sea". One of the six sons of
OGUZ KAGAN was named as "DENIZ HAN" (SU-HAN). We also find this very
name "SU HAN" as "ZU-EN" or "HAN SU as "EN-ZU" meaning "Lord water" in
Sumerian writings. These Turko-Sumerian concepts are ancient Turanian
and are much earlier than the concept of "ZEUS". Zeus is an emulation
of these concepts in Turkish.

We should also note that the Turkish concept of "HAN SU" (Lord Water)
has been personified by another Greek term, namely "POSEIDON" (Gr.
POSEIDONOS [109]). When POSEIDON is deconstructed letter-by-letter
as "DENIS-OPO", it is an anagram of Turkish expression "DENIZ APA"
meaning "Sea Father" (Lord sea).

Similarly, the Greek form POSEIDONOS, when deconstructed as
"OPO-DENIS-SO" gives us the Turkish expression "APA DENIZ SU" meaning
"Father Sea water".

Furthermore, if the name POSEIDONOS is deconstructed as
"PEI-SO-DON-SO", it is the Turkish expression "BEI SU DON-SU" (Bey Su
ve Don-su (kar, buz)) meaning "Lord water, ice and snow". Again the
source for this Greek concept is Turkish. Ice and snow generally live
on the top of mountains and also at the polar zones of earth. When
they melt, they become the waters that feed streams, rivers, lakes and
seas. In ancient Greek illustrations, ZEUS was always presented as an
old man appearing among the storm clouds and letting loose his anger
as "thunder claps" and throwing "bolts of light" in all directions.
Here again ZEUS is a personification of Turkish "AZ SU" (peerless water).

7. The name ZEUS, in the form of ZIOUS, also carries other godly
concepts in Turkish. ZIOUS, when rearranged as "OZ-IUS", where the
letter "I" is really "AY" and the letter U is really Y, is the anagram
of Turkish "AZ AYAS" (essiz ayas, essiz ziya) meaning "peerless
light", that is, "sun light". The Turkic word "AYAS" means "light" as
in "AK AYAS" (White Light) being the name of Sky-God by Tatar Turks.
[110] Thus, ZEUS also personifies "light". In this context, his wife
HERA, opposite of Zeus, is the anagram of Turkish "KARA" meaning
"black" or "darkness" in addition to being Turkish "KARI" meaning
"wife". Thus HERA, in one meaning, is the personification of
"darkness" which always creates problems. Light and dark (day and
night) are metaphorical mates to each other.

8. The Greek name ZEUS is an attempt to emulate the ancient Turanian
Sky-God OGUZ and its religious and philosophical concepts by another
non-Turkic sounding name. This ancient Turkish name "OGUZ", in one
hand, describes the ancient trinity Sky-God "OGUZ", that is, the Sun,
the Moon and the Sky-Father-God. On the other hand, embedded in the
word OGUZ is Turkish "O GOZ" meaning "that eye" and this refers to the
Sun and the Moon as the eyes of the Sky-Father God. Also embedded in
OGUZ is Turkish "O KÖZ" meaning "that fire" and this refers to the
"Sun". Additionally, embedded in OGUZ is Turkish OKUZ meaning "Ox" or
"Bull" which was the bull icon for the ancient Turanian Sky-God OGUZ.
OGUZ also describes and names the Tur or Turk peoples who are known as
the OGUZ peoples.

Furtheremore, OGUZ is the homonym word to the word "AGUZ" meaning
"mouth" which not only "eats, drinks and breaths" for the survival of
the body, but also it generates "voice, word and language" for
communication. "AGUZ" generates words and gives "names" for all
concepts that are generated in the mind for abstract concepts as well
as for all the real things found and sensed by human senses in the
surrounding. Thus "AGUZ was with the God "OGUZ" and "AGUZ" was "GOD"
(OGUZ) as it is admitted in JOHN 1:1 which states the following: "In
the beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word
was god". [111]

What this cryptic excerpt from JOHN 1:1 is really saying is that in
the beginning, the word for "WORD" and the word for "GOD" were the
same or were similar. This was so in the ancient Turanian (Turkish)
OGUZ religion and OGUZ language, i.e., "OGUZ AGUZ", that antedated
others. The Turkish name OGUZ represented the Sky-God and Turkish AGUZ
was the word for "mouth, word and language" and they are homonym to
each other. This is probably why the "Word was with God". Therefore
JOHN 1:1 can be rewritten as: "In the beginning the AGUZ was, and the
AGUZ was with God OGUZ and the AGUZ was god."

This can be construed as meaning that everything recognized and
defined by the human mind was initially given a name in OGUZ AGUZ,
that is, in OGUZ (TUR) language. Implied in this is the meaning that
this fantastic religious concept where the concepts of God and
language were combined into one was first done in the OGUZ language
(i.e., Turkish). This also supports the view that Turkish was the Sun language.

Another verifying example of this view is the so-called "Greek" word
THEO (meaning God). This word is anagrammatized from Turkish and is
in one sense from Turkish "ETE O" (ATA-O) meaning "He is Father" (he
is creator) referring to God the Father and God the Sun. In another
sense, it is from Turkish "TE-O" (DE-O) meaning "it is speech"
referring to things that we say by the mouth. This again equates
Turkish "TE O" (DE O) with the god concept of "Theo".

9. The name ZEUS, when rearranged as "EZUS", is an anagram of Turkish
word "EZUZ" (eziz, aziz) meaning "dear, beloved, saintly, sacred,
saint, holy". Yet "aziz" is a form of Turkish phrase "AS AZ" (bir
essiz, tek) meaning "peerless ONE" which again refers to a "single"
GOD concept. Of course, similar expressions in Turkish such as: "AS
OUZ" (Bir/essiz OGUZ) meaning "one/peerless OGUZ", "AS US" (AZ US)
meaning "one/peerless wisdom" and "AS AUZ" (AZ AGUZ) meaning
"one/peerless speech" also define "godly concepts". Even the word
"SAINT" is surely made from the Turkish word "ISTAN" meaning "God".


>From all of these, it is clearly seen that Zeus and the meanings
associated with it are all Turkish in origin. Greeks have taken these
ancient Turkish religious concepts and anagrammatized them so that
they are alienated from their Turkish origin. Similarly are the
so-called "holy scriptures".


CONCLUSION:

1. From the above analysis of the name ZEUS, it is seen that all
mythological concepts associated with Zeus have their religious,
philosophical and linguistic origin in the ancient Turanian (Tur/Turk)
civilization that antedated all others. They are words and expressions
of Turkish that have been restructured and embedded into the Greek
mythological name ZEUS. All of this confirms that an unimaginable
looting of ancient Turanian (Tur/Turk), that is, so-called "pagan"
civilization took place. Altering Turkish words and phrases to develop
words for "European" languages is unquestionable testimony that the
ancient Turanian civilization was the dominant civilization in the
world for a long time before it was destroyed and usurped by the
wanderers (arayan).

2. The name OLUMPUS (Olympus) as the name of a mountain where the
Greek Gods lived, was also used as a front for the personification of
the human "head" ("tepe" or "bash" in Turkish). Thus this ancient
Turanian concept has been usurped into Greek by means of
anagrammatizing the Turkish source text, i.e., "ulu bashum".

3. Metaphors and personifications are some of the tricks that have
been used to usurp and disguise the ancient Turanian culture and
civilization. The Greek linguists and the linguists of other
wanderers, in spite of their great skill at usurping the ancient
Turkish intellectual creations and disguising them into restructured
and altered forms, have unwittingly preserved the ancient Turanian
civilization and its Turkish language. The decipherment of these
encrypted words exposes the ancient Turanian philosophy of the world
that those ancient peoples lived in and how they visualized.

4. In the next part of this series I will discuss the names of the
MUSES, that is, the mythological nine "daughters" of Zeus together
with their mother MNEMOSYNE. That discussion will also verify Zeus
concept and clearly establish their identity as being concepts
expressed in Turkish.


REFERENCES:


[104] Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, Fifth Edition, 1947, p. 1172.
[105] Graham Speake, "A Dictionary of Ancient History", Blackwell
Reference, 1994,, p. 683.
[106] DIVRY's "Modern English-Greek and Greek-English Desk Dictionary,
p. 389.
[107] DIVRY's "Modern English-Greek and Greek-English Desk Dictionary,
p. 216, 615.
[108] Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, Fifth Edition, 1947, p. 692.
[109] DIVRY's "Modern English-Greek and Greek-English Desk Dictionary,
p. 244.
[110] Mircea Eliade, "SHAMANISM Archaic Techniques of Ecstasy",
Bollinger Series LXXVI, Princeton University Press, 1974, p. 9.
[111] "The New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures", revised
1984, p. 1327.


Best wishes to all,

Polat Kaya

21/04/2005

Here are some of his other analysis:

Muses:  http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Polat_Kaya/message/269
Athena:  http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Polat_Kaya/message/141
Avesta, Zoroaster, Zarathustra, Zoroastrian:  http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Polat_Kaya/message/275

Babylon Part I:  http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Polat_Kaya/message/174
Babylon Part II:  http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Polat_Kaya/message/175
Babylon Part III:  http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Polat_Kaya/message/176
Babylon Part IV:  http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Polat_Kaya/message/177
Babylon Part V - Summary:  http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Polat_Kaya/message/178
Babylon Part VI - EXODUS:  http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Polat_Kaya/message/186
 
Trevty1995 said:
I'd have to agree minimally, there can be kernels of truth mixed in with a myth.  I don't really like the paper/article underneath but I would agree at least a little with you.

I see you're from Istanbul, that would explain why you are trying to link all good things in this world to Turkey.

I'm not really sure whether Zeus is a good thing or not.  :neutral:

I'm also not interested linking every good thing to Turkey. Ancient Turks were known for sacrificing themselves for their leader when their leader died. That's not really a great thing now is it?  :wink:
 
War_B*stard said:
Is there anything that isn't of Turkish origin?

Jews.


A quick example of where there might be a kernel of truth in a myth is the story of the war between the Vanir gods and Aesir gods (Norse/Germanic).  Many believe that this is a description of a pre-history conflict between peoples who believed in one cult and those who believed in another (for example in some tribes the goddess Nerthus, a Vanir, was a major deity that seems to have falled out of favor to gods like Woden, an Aesir).

However, there is no way to prove any of this and it can only remain as a hypothesis.  Unless archaeology uncovers hard evidence about any of it, finding truth in myths is faulty and should not have even the slightest emphasis put on it.
 
one of the most dumb things I have read.... I personally think hes a radical right wing Turkish man.Waste of time imao.
 
Seriously, do we have to keep putting up with Pan-Turkism bull**** on the boards?

Most of you remember the discussions on the 'origin of scythians' and 'Odin was a Turk'. Now here he comes again saying 'Zeus was a Turk'... with the crap methodology and abomination of a sorely ahistoric analyses. What next? Buddha was a Turk?

Believers of pseudo-history are like religious fanatics - they don't require academic analyses and fact checking, since if they knew anything about it they wouldn't make such bogus claims in the first place. They base there "theories" upon the shoddy conspiracy theory that academic history teaches lies to people, and only they know the truth.

You don't argue with fanatics - you just keep them away from your front lawn, with a shotgun in hand if needed. I propose to the forum moderators to consider banning such people who make mockery out of history, driven by their bigot-driven bogus agenda. As far as I'm concerned, it's no different from keeping the Nazis and Fascists and racists away from the board.
 
My god, this place hasn't changed much while I was away. I'm not sure if that's good or bad.

In answer to the subject line: sometimes.

In answer to the turkobabble: not only no, but hell no. The turks didn't arrive until after the greeks were all christian, hell, the turks were the people who destroyed the last bits of the Roman Empire. It's flat out bullshizzle.
 
To be honest a trained monkey with a passing familiarity with either a) the Greek myth cycles and B) the Greek language could tear that argument apart in seconds. Zeus was a personification of water? Someone should have told Poseidon :roll:
 
Archonsod said:
To be honest a trained monkey with a passing familiarity with either a) the Greek myth cycles and B) the Greek language could tear that argument apart in seconds. Zeus was a personification of water? Someone should have told Poseidon :roll:

You know this and I know this and most people with half a brain know this, but sometimes I feel obliged to point out the glaringly obvious.
 
Archonsod said:
To be honest a trained monkey with a passing familiarity with either a) the Greek myth cycles and B) the Greek language could tear that argument apart in seconds. Zeus was a personification of water? Someone should have told Poseidon :roll:

First of all the fact that it is called "O" indicates that it was
Turkish in origin.
Archonsod, you are twice teh Turk man, back to your roots biatch!
 
No, that's just what MI5 want you to think. Now if you'd kindly explain to me your plan for world domination and lock me in a room with only a scantily clad lady to guard me I'd be much obliged.
 
kweassa said:
You don't argue with fanatics - you just keep them away from your front lawn, with a shotgun in hand if needed. I propose to the forum moderators to consider banning such people who make mockery out of history, driven by their bigot-driven bogus agenda. As far as I'm concerned, it's no different from keeping the Nazis and Fascists and racists away from the board.
Amen to that.
He's spread his blight to Turkish forum too. The guy is nothing but a missionary, his only purpose in this forum is to spread his fallacies.
 
YII7 said:
one of the most dumb things I have read.... I personally think hes a radical right wing Turkish man.Waste of time imao.
DEV BASHED!  :lol:

That said, I doubt it, and I don't really give a darn.

The only reason such a possibility should be considered (the amount of truth in a myth, that is), would be for the creation of a fictional world. Then I would happily go dive into such speculation, as it could be a powerful, or a at least interesting, bit of story/culture in a world.
 
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