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I was integrating it today but I got the error that a notification menu for truce was missing mnu_notification_alliance_declared  It wasn't in the source game_menus.py and its not in the native.  Awesome mod though can't wait to get it working on my private mod. 
 
Ailan said:
I was integrating it today but I got the error that a notification menu for truce was missing mnu_notification_alliance_declared  It wasn't in the source game_menus.py and its not in the native.  Awesome mod though can't wait to get it working on my private mod.
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Indeed mnu_notification_alliance_declared was missing in the sources files. Please download again. You can find it in game_menus.py now. Since keeping up the delta is getting hard, with 1.5beta I will start to add the whole source files.
 
Oh yes please increase the amount.

Waihti said:
Lord Affe said:
Very very thanks for this great mod . ( The best mod for the "best game ever" :smile: )

Suggestion:
I guess the reputation boost for a gift is too much. I spend a bit of wine ( vine ? ) and it boosted the reputation +4.
I think thats too much. It should be only +1 for my opinion. Or better: If you gave a gift the next gift should only be possible in a week later. ( I dont know if thats possible )

regards
lord affe.
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Seems he liked alcohol :smile:

Acutally the chance for getting a +3 or a +4 boost for wine ist 50:50. However maybe I am going to increase the amount needed to 150 or 200.
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Waihti said:
Lord Affe said:
Bug ?

I tried to give a fievs ( Armere ) to Harlaus . I sent Marnid for this diplomatic mission. Marnid came back but nothing happened. Armere still is owned by my faction.
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Is the bug repeatable? If yes, maybe you can upload your save game somewhere.
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One test before i sent marnid to give 3000 dinars as a gift. ( i lost 3000 ) and it didn't work too (either).
I did it again, but increased the argue-skill of marnid . before he had 0 after increasing he had 2. I sent him again and relation boost about 5 i guess to swadia. so that worked. now i have to test it with a fievs.

Is the success of a diplomatic mission really depend on argue-skill ? That would be great.

 
Lord Affe said:
@EasyCo:

No please. I like this way of sending companions. They should also have the argue-skills. It's a kind of balancing because it hurts you a bit if a campanion leaves you, then you will also loose the party skills. So you have to think about who will you send to other kings.

regards
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I don't really care about the fact that they leave your party for a while. I am trying to make all my companions into lords, but if I did that then I would be unable to use diplomacy since I wouldn't have anybody to send. If I control an entire kingdom, it makes no sense that there are only 16 people that I can send on missions. That's why I wanted that option, so that I could turn all the companions into lords, while still being able to use diplomacy.
 
Lord Affe said:
Is the success of a diplomatic mission really depend on argue-skill ? That would be great.
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Not if your sending a gift. It depends on persuasion for some other missions.
 
bgfan said:
Yes! I no longer have to go looking through the markets in every city for food! Thank you waihti! :razz:
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You still have to, since your wife loves short ways and she doesn't want to go if the merchant has not enough bread...
 
Qwertypolk said:
I'd like more ways of improving relations with lords in my own kingdom. I have around 20 lords, and too little land to give them all fiefs (My own fault, I know) Those without fiefs lose relation with me every few days, some now have -50, which isn't too good :lol:
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You can send them gifts via spouse now.

Qwertypolk said:
Any way you could implement a payment system? As in, having those lords as household barons, as opposed to landed barons. It was very much the norm in medieval culture to do so.
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Maybe later. If you have something like household barons you also need a function for them which does fit in the game.
 
i got a few quistion
1. why do some kingdoms never see me as king when i send a companion
2.how can i make the chance of getting a truce bigger
3.do i need to have a truce with a kingdom for an alliance, becaus don't u get a truce only after a war
 
Reporting a bug:

When visiting a castle that has characters in there, a red text appear with the message

"Unable to load scene objects:
scn_town_19_castle"

This is also repeated in meetings with other characters, towns, streets, taverns and arenas.
 
terrorib said:
i got a few quistion
1. why do some kingdoms never see me as king when i send a companion
2.how can i make the chance of getting a truce bigger
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1. and 2. are both using the same (native) code. Some things which help you getting a positive result:

  • Player honor
  • Relation between your faction and the other faction
  • Emissary persuasion
  • inflicted war damage
  • wether it is a civil war
  • strengh of your kingdom
  • you are holding any centers originaly owned by the other faction
  • third party wars

terrorib said:
3.do i need to have a truce with a kingdom for an alliance, becaus don't u get a truce only after a war
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Good point, going to change that.
 
Mohamad said:
Reporting a bug:

When visiting a castle that has characters in there, a red text appear with the message

"Unable to load scene objects:
scn_town_19_castle"

This is also repeated in meetings with other characters, towns, streets, taverns and arenas.
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Did you copy the native folder and extracted Diplomacy into the same folder overwriting the native files?
 
Waihti said:
Mohamad said:
Reporting a bug:

When visiting a castle that has characters in there, a red text appear with the message

"Unable to load scene objects:
scn_town_19_castle"

This is also repeated in meetings with other characters, towns, streets, taverns and arenas.
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Did you copy the native folder and extracted Diplomacy into the same folder overwriting the native files?
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Never mind, I did not do the right installation. My apology!
 
your right btw
its just that king harlaus is a bully
i tried it with the nords and raggy called me lord of veluca
swadia will burn next
 
This mod keeps getting better and better!

Thank you - and keep up the good work!
...as long as you wish, that is...  :cool:

Looking forward to any further improvements!

cheers!
 
Its a really great mod and i hope it gets integrated into some big mods soon. :smile:

One question, this doesnt apply to the AI does it?


Oh and it says Planned for 1.5beta in the version history, guess it should say 1.6beta.
 
Blist said:
Its a really great mod and i hope it gets integrated into some big mods soon. :smile:
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I hope that too.

Blist said:
One question, this doesnt apply to the AI does it?
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Nope, it does not.

Blist said:
Oh and it says Planned for 1.5beta in the version history, guess it should say 1.6beta.
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It's planned for 1.5.1  :wink:
 
looking forward to the finished version of this

I think I'll wait till after my current play through before I download and install and see what bugs have been fixed and what new features are added
 
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